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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreetings, DUers! Ready for your Friday Afternoon Challenge? Here it is: “Illuminations.”
Illumination has been a subject and condition of art since the Lascaux cave painters. Now at midwinter let us identify these works of the optical sublime...
Good luck, and of course...no cheating..
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)See #57.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I thought I was losing my touch
Yeah. That guy who painted all that stuff.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Do you like this artist?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But what I know about art wouldn't fill a thimble.
IcyPeas
(21,866 posts)the woman in blue with the veil gives it away for me. Also the horse. He has a few paintings with horses.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)with the veil...I wouldn't have known this had it not been pointed out to me...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It looks like the netting on a ballet tutu. Maybe that is why Degas liked to paint dancers. He liked to paint the fall of the fabric. I'm just guessing for fun.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Well I'm pretty sure. I hope I am not displaying my ignorance of art here.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)much about him.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Frank Tenney Johnson? But it has a bit more... vitality than most Johnsons. They are Johnson stars though.
But would you feature someone that relatively minor? Hmmm. I don't want to say Remington, though it could be... it's his kind of thing, even down to the scratchy vigorous excution. Maybe Couse.
But I'll guess Johnson because he made his career on those distinctive green nights, and is thus statistically the best guess. (He did more green night with stars paintings than anyone else.)
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)you are on the right track...
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Johnson got the green night thing from Remington, so I should have just guessed Remington but I wanted to show off.
The thing is, Johnson was a heavy painter... thick paint. Remington was not. So the scratchiness and exposed under-paint, and the iconic/simple image, and the fascination with encounters at water holes, and the thinness of the wolf (Remington like thin things, not rounded things) are all Remington and I outsmarted myself.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)trying for something like that, even back in the late 19th century. Like most Americans I think of Remington's cowboy, bucking horses type of art but this just struck me as interesting. Evidently, he did a number of night time paintings but the ones I saw all had dudes in cowboy attire around campfires which would have been pretty simple...this caught my eye with the green effect.
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pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I searched on the subject rather than trying to search by artist.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CrazyOrangeCat
(6,112 posts)I have always liked night scenes, both painted and photographed.
Thanks.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I hadn't run across his work before today.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)may have something you studied in art history or art appreciation and you'll recall it...a lot of folks here do that...art will simply enrich and save your life, trust me!
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)I unfortunately never took an art history course
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)you'll start Googling and god knows what will happen to you then!
Botany
(70,501 posts)psychmommy
(1,739 posts)These posts are great. i look forward to this.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)they took art history or art appreciation as an elective as an undergrad and never forgot the experience! It's wonderful!
psychmommy
(1,739 posts)It wasn't my talent and I couldn't relate. Now I am old and mellow, I can appreciate it now.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I had already gotten a Master's in Liberal Studies where I had done an Independent Study on Caravaggio. When I retired a few years later, I fell in love with art entirely. Hence, my fascination and these Challenges!
Also, it keeps my brain from atrophying...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)Really amazing scene.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)This doesn't look like a celebration, though.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)but it IS interesting to see how one artist or one artiistic school influences another art movement...perhaps this is one of those cases...
yardwork
(61,599 posts)It is possible that Hardy's novel was influenced by that painting!
This is so interesting. I love the Friday Challenge!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It took me a long time to figure out what was going on here. Eventually the birds and the clubs made me think of bird hunting.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I looked up some more information on it:
This haunting and strange picture--brutishly literal yet terrifyingly generic--is the final painting by Jean-François Millet, a remarkable last testament by one of the most profound artists of the nineteenth century. He drew on his own boyhood experiences in depicting the subject of bird's-nesters, who would hunt great flocks of pigeons at night by blinding them with torchlight and then clubbing them to death. By the 1870s Millet's paintings of rural life were among the most famous in France. His subjects are nearly all drawn from the peasantry, done just as the countryside was being depopulated by immigration to the new industrial centers. But unlike many other artists who worked in the very popular specialty of "peasant painting," Millet's great genius was his ability to bond his subjects to their native place while simultaneously elevating them to a level of universal humanity. Much of his success was based on his evocation of a communal memory of a lost rural world that was either arcadian or pathetic or a combination of both. Joseph J. Rishel, from Philadelphia Museum of Art: Handbook of the Collections (1995), p. 197.
http://www.philamuseum.org/collections/permanent/102872.html
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)such means and ends for their very subsistence?
democrat in Tallahassee
(3,531 posts)She was a follower or Caravaggio. On the other hand, something reminds me of Judith Leyster in Holland--maybe the musical instruments but I don't think she was that into chiaroscuro.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)either. I saw her work on an art intensive in the Netherlands in 2011...
democrat in Tallahassee
(3,531 posts)And I admire Gentileschi (and Leyster) too. It was not easy for a woman to become an artist.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)flower work that I bought in the gift shop in the Frans Hals House Museum in Haarlem...)
mwdem
(4,031 posts)He was the Painter of Light? Am I not right?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)paintings of effects of light, as I said in my OP, go back to the Lascaux artists who positioned their images to catch the rays of the sun at winter solstice. Then we have stained glass windows in medieval Europe light, Muslim radiance, Romantic landscape artists, and the "scientific data" of the French Impressionists...and on and on.
Historical perspective informs...
mwdem
(4,031 posts)I do love your post.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)not nice, but I want to emphasize the positives. This is a gentle place and I don't want to put anyone down for their questions about what I have posted. I hope I didn't come across too harsh (my hubby thinks I came across too strong).
thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you like the Challenge!
mwdem
(4,031 posts)I love Caravaggio and his use of shadows and illuminations.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)That was tough! (And my final search even turned up a Kincade, lol!)
More info on this painting:
Paintings of the same subject by Caravaggio (New York, Metropolitan Museum of Art) and Bartolommeo Manfredi (Florence, Uffizi) are among the prototypes for this composition. Their large-scale, half-length figures, their crowding together within the composition and their closeness to the edge of the canvas, as well as the bright, colourful palette can all be found in this painting. Ter Brugghen brings to this existing format an individual fluency in modelling the soft edges of his forms and a remarkable subtlety of palette.
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/hendrick-ter-brugghen-the-concert
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)after they died out Caravaggio slipped out of favor until the early 20th century. Ruskin had hated him. Then he was rediscovered and is now the most popular artist in the U.S. (according to some). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utrecht_Caravaggism
yardwork
(61,599 posts)I was all over the google last night trying to figure out if this was Caravaggio or one of his contemporaries. I even scanned images of Rembrandt - I just couldn't figure it out.
Another beautiful and fun challenge for a Friday night!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)lapislzi
(5,762 posts)#1...Odilon Redon? I know the painting, and I know it's from they Symbolist school. Wish I could remember more, as this is one of my favorite periods of art.
#2 Georges de la Tour.
#3 Courbet?
#5 Caravaggio (studied intently by de la Tour, above)
Thanks for a fun challenge, as always, CTY
...your friend in NY
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Interesting early work by the artist and here is a link on it:
http://archive.org/details/brooklynmuseum-o4393-portrait-of-mlle-fiocre-in-the-ballet
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I studied Degas pretty heavily. Of course that was 30 years ago. This painting, which includes some of his favorite subject matter (horses, ballet, bathers), foreshadows by 20 years his Symbolist compositions.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)background, I didn't put together the thematic approaches altogether (horse, ballet, bathers as you point out). It was pretty mysterious to me, so I have learned something....
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I knew it was of St. Francis, and went from there.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)his skin pallor is the same as his robe...
entanglement
(3,615 posts)artist's mind.
Great "challenge", as usual