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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:11 AM Jan 2013

Kansas considers a new red card for food stamps

Kansas officials are considering replacing the current benefits card for residents who get food stamps with a bright red one.

The current Vision cards have an artistic impression of a sunflower, while a prototype of the new card is red with the “Kansas Benefits Card” label.

The Kansas Department of Children and Families said the card would be replaced because the agency has a new vendor. However, Tawny Stottlemire of the Kansas Association of County Action Programs said the proposed redesign could return Kansas to an era when public assistance recipients were unnecessarily stigmatized.

The Vision cards were introduced in the 1990s to allow food stamp recipients to use a plastic card to buy food at stores and for people who get temporary cash assistance.

The Associated Press

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/11/4006586/kansas-considering-new-red-card.html#storylink=cpy

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Kansas considers a new red card for food stamps (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 OP
It's the "Christian" thing to do... orwell Jan 2013 #1
of course this is the kind of idea they think up in a place like Kansas quinnox Jan 2013 #2
How about, every single person who has a government job SheilaT Jan 2013 #36
Oh. We're really into stigmatization and beating people when they 're down in this country. Denninmi Jan 2013 #3
It's practically a national pastime NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #10
The NEW Scarlet Letter hobbit709 Jan 2013 #4
+1 Mrs. Overall Jan 2013 #7
I wonder how obvious MuseRider Jan 2013 #5
And I wonder proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #6
I wonder if they will even bother. MuseRider Jan 2013 #11
Shame shame shame gollygee Jan 2013 #8
If so then Jayhawks of good conscience should demand bright red cards from their banks in solidarity TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #9
I like this idea. n/t blockhead Jan 2013 #12
If they got Navy Fed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #17
so how much is this new, offensive, obvious card going to cost kansas? wow, just. . .wow niyad Jan 2013 #13
Why not make them wear yellow, star-shaped badges? Easier to identify that way! msanthrope Jan 2013 #14
Another reason to use self-checkout duffyduff Jan 2013 #15
And I am glad my taxes help you nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #18
Thank you Nadin. jwirr Jan 2013 #20
I use a SNAP card, there are so many different cards out there now most don't pay attention Fumesucker Jan 2013 #16
This defeats the purpose of the EBT card. I can now take my $78 if food stamps to the store and jwirr Jan 2013 #19
That's the point. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #23
I know - it is a real shame that we have not learned in all these years that the pull yourself up by jwirr Jan 2013 #24
Red is not unusual; doesn't anyone have a Target card? FarCenter Jan 2013 #21
Look at the card they have in mind. Nothing like the examples you provided. Tempest Jan 2013 #27
On my monitor it looks similar to the orange Discover card. FarCenter Jan 2013 #28
Why can't it be more like the other examples from other states on the page? Tempest Jan 2013 #29
Single color card stock with black print is probably as cheap as it gets. FarCenter Jan 2013 #31
looks like it matches the orange jumpsuits of the jail population 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #33
What about corporate welfare recipients jsr Jan 2013 #22
The proposed card looks hideous duffyduff Jan 2013 #25
Yuck proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #30
or California jsr Jan 2013 #32
Why not just make them wear a red star on their jackets? Tempest Jan 2013 #26
Nathaniel Hawthorne would recognize this for what it is: poverty shaming. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #34
The scarlet card. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #35
maybe instead of a red card... Takket Jan 2013 #37
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. of course this is the kind of idea they think up in a place like Kansas
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:17 AM
Jan 2013

It will probably catch on in the rest of the backwards states down there. I'm surprised they don't make food stamp recipients wear bright prison like shirts with "Food Stamp Recipient #2356A" emblazoned on them in big letters.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
36. How about, every single person who has a government job
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jan 2013

be required to wear a bright fuschia jumpsuit with "State Employee # 12345" on it. The Governor gets to have "State Employee #1" in larger letters than anyone else.

I actually do respect the vast majority of public employees and I'm not serious about this suggestion. Other than maybe for all the elected officials, not the civil service types.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
3. Oh. We're really into stigmatization and beating people when they 're down in this country.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:19 AM
Jan 2013

Trust me, I've learned a lot about the topic of stigma in five months. More than I ever cared to. A real eye opener.

As someone diagnosed bipolar, I found people, even healthcare workers, treated me like I am stupid, didn't understand topic x, so couldn't make a valid choice about my life.

The poor no doubt get the lazy and worthless message. A real disgrace.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
10. It's practically a national pastime
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jan 2013

There are people who need food stamps (SNAP) and won't get them because of the embarrassment or shame that people would stigmatize them with. The end result is that they almost starve to ensure their children get fed.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
5. I wonder how obvious
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jan 2013

and humiliating Sam can make things for some people before the people who vote for him wake the fuck up about his true character and intentions?

This man is a fake Christian, and a fake human being. He is a person out only for his own benefit and all of it, ALL of it, is on the backs of anyone he can use.

I find this behavior beyond anything anyone with any decency could abide let alone support.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
6. And I wonder
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jan 2013

how long it will be before the Democrats in Kansas have a candidate to run against Sam. At this point, it looks like the election is theirs to lose.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
11. I wonder if they will even bother.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jan 2013

Unless they can find a candidate that can fund themselves and compete with the Koch money there will be only the same outcome as last time. Nobody will know Sammy has a challenger until they see the name on their ballots.

Most people will vote for the devil they know.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
9. If so then Jayhawks of good conscience should demand bright red cards from their banks in solidarity
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jan 2013

Say FUCK YOU to their stigma ploy.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
14. Why not make them wear yellow, star-shaped badges? Easier to identify that way!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jan 2013

(to the jury...that was sarcasm!)

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
15. Another reason to use self-checkout
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jan 2013

I have SNAP here in Oregon, and I use self-checkout all the time. I am spared the ignorant and judgmental looks.

What kills me is so many people are on SNAP now, there shouldn't be anybody judging others. After all, those of us who need the benefits pay taxes as well.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. I use a SNAP card, there are so many different cards out there now most don't pay attention
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jan 2013

I know I certainly don't pay attention to what debit/credit cards people use, I have far better things to do with my time.

So the state's going to spend a bunch of money changing cards to increase stigma and 90% of people who are supposed to be doing the stigmatizing will never notice.

Sounds like a typical Republican return on investment.

I wonder if the card will look like this?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. This defeats the purpose of the EBT card. I can now take my $78 if food stamps to the store and
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jan 2013

avoid the staring of my fellow shoppers. I can buy special foods that help my diabetes without being accused of misspending the program.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. I know - it is a real shame that we have not learned in all these years that the pull yourself up by
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jan 2013

your bootstraps is not a good system and never will be. It is just a greed system. Especially when there are not bootstraps.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
28. On my monitor it looks similar to the orange Discover card.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jan 2013

The large text saying "Benefits Card" is more distinctive than the color.

Red is a red herring.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
29. Why can't it be more like the other examples from other states on the page?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jan 2013

Why does Kansas want it to be so pronounced?

Only one reason I can think of, especially considering it's Kansas.

What IS wrong with that state?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
31. Single color card stock with black print is probably as cheap as it gets.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

And color or graphics have nothing to do with the functionality of a credit card.

They could save a little more by blowing off the state seal. It's completely unnecessary.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
33. looks like it matches the orange jumpsuits of the jail population
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:01 PM
Jan 2013

pretty darn well. Ya sure it's red?

Takket

(21,566 posts)
37. maybe instead of a red card...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jan 2013

they could just wear a bright yellow star on their clothing with a proximity chip inside of it that they could just place against a reader to pay with? Just a thought.

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