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This is deeply distressing...
Published (January 21st) in Independent Science News:
Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene In Commercial GMO Crops
by Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson
Synopsis: A scientific paper published in late 2012 shows that US and EU GMO regulators have for many years been inadvertently approving transgenic events containing an unsuspected viral gene...
...The authors of the paper, working for the European Food Safety Authority, concluded that functions of Gene VI were potential sources of harmful consequences.
They further concluded that, if expressed, the fragments of Gene VI are substantial enough for them to be functional.
This discovery has multiple ramifications for biotechnology. Foremost, there is the immediate question of GMO safety and whether the 54 events should be recalled, but secondly, the failure implicates regulators and the industry in a circle of mutual incompetence and complacency.
The discovery also strengthens the argument for GMO labeling: if regulators and industry cannnot protect the public then why should they not be allowed to protect themselves?
URL: http://independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/regulators-discover-a-hidden-viral-gene-in-commercial-gmo-crops/
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)You can't see it. It's occulted. But trust me, it's there and not there. It's occulted.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)A gene with no obvious expression in the organism's form or behavior.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)discussed.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I wonder what a human being infected with cauliflower mosaic virus would look like or how would it affect our bodies?
Or how about verticillium wilt or any number of blights?
I'm not going to pretend I understand every single word, sentence or paragraph in that article but I definitely think I've got the gist of where its going and I don't like it one bit and neither should any one else.
Just one more thought; we/our government allowed these jackasses to experimentally muck with our food supply, for pure profit. What could possibly go wrong?!
Berlum
(7,044 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)AdHocSolver
(2,561 posts)K and R.
randome
(34,845 posts)Congratulations to the author for the most non-specific fire drill of the day!
Just about everything in the Universe is a 'potential source of harmful consequences'.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)as everyone must attest.
randome
(34,845 posts)Calling something 'occult' and 'crapola' only carries weight if you can point to something specific. Saying that it's artificial and therefore axiomatically 'evil' will not gain much traction.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Read closely:
When a scientific study was published in September last year showing that a genetically modified maize and tiny amounts of the Roundup herbicide it is designed to be grown with damaged the health of rats, Corinne Lepage MEP called it "a bomb".
The study, by Prof Gilles-Eric Séralini's team at the University of Caen, France, was the first to test the effects of eating a GM food and its associated pesticide over the animals' lifetime of two years.
The study found that GM maize and Roundup caused severe organ damage and increased tumour rates, as well as earlier death....
HUGE STINKING TANTRUM BY "Scientists" immediately thereafter gets MASSIVE corporate media play.
"...But all was not as it seemed. Many of the critics were subsequently exposed as having commercial or career interests in GM technology interests that went undisclosed in media articles that quoted them.
The Science Media Centre itself has taken funding from GM and agrochemical companies.
Government agencies that condemned the study, such as the EFSA, had been involved in GM crop approvals and so were simply defending their own decisions.
Read more: http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/2937/citizens-were-lied-to-over-gm-study#ixzz2IjCiUj00
Berlum
(7,044 posts)farminator3000
(2,117 posts)documented source?
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)then you don't have much of a message.
And the all caps is, indeed, proof of intention to highlight an alarming sounding word. (Most would find the word "harmful" in the headline of more interest than hidden or obscured)
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)
Let me help you out. It means hidden.
The TRICK is "hidden" genetically mutant crapola in the food. You know, occulted.
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
(408 posts)they were blown off as conspiracy theorists. Good to see main stream media's finally been taking an interest in it the last couple of years. GMO foods are banned many other places around the world and with good reason. If corporations want to sell poison garbage to the American people, I could care less, it's the "American way" but I do feel they shouldn't be allowed to market their trash as organic. It should be labeled GMO.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)USA Corporate Media, Inc. (R): "z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z"
Uncovered, the 'toxic' gene hiding in GM crops:
Revelation throws new doubt over safety of foods
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266143/Uncovered-toxic-gene-hiding-GM-crops-Revelation-throws-new-doubt-safety-foods.html#ixzz2IjpH6qmo
Berlum
(7,044 posts)What do the Europeans know that US Corporate Media, Inc. isn't telling Americans?
"The European Commission has decided to freeze the approval process for genetically modified food crops through the end of its mandate next year..."
http://www.seeddaily.com/reports/EU_freezes_approval_of_GM_crops_to_2014_999.html
blazeKing
(329 posts)If there were problems it would likely show up in them first. I know there are studies on rats that show liver and reproductive damage. Personally, I am against GMO until long term independent studies show they are safe.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Just because you have not heard of it, does not mean it's not happening. Check out the work of Don Huber.
flobee1
(870 posts)not corn-they cannot digest it properly
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)Rosman said he used hybrids in the past and started to use GMO corn in feed in 1997 without any trouble, but things changed in 2000 when he switched to a different companys genetics with a new genetically modified trait.
Starting in 2000, most of Rosmans animal were unable to reproduce with a low sperm count in males and females showing false pregnancies. The pigs that were reproducing had smaller litters. By adjusting the type of corn used, Rosman concluded the corn with the genetically modified trait he started using in 2000 was causing the problem. Continued losses and his shrinking herd forced him to close his farm two years later.
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/181872191.html
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Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Pitchforks to uproot the plants and torches to burn them.
^snip from link in OP^
Is There a Direct Human Toxicity Issue?
When Gene VI is intentionally expressed in transgenic plants, it causes them to become chlorotic (yellow), to have growth deformities, and to have reduced fertility in a dose-dependent manner (Ziljstra et al 1996). Plants expressing Gene VI also show gene expression abnormalities. These results indicate that, not unexpectedly given its known functions, the protein produced by Gene VI is functioning as a toxin and is harmful to plants (Takahashi et al 1989). Since the known targets of Gene VI activity (ribosomes and gene silencing) are also found in human cells, a reasonable concern is that the protein produced by Gene VI might be a human toxin. This is a question that can only be answered by future experiments.
So, at this point we have nothing but unfounded speculation.
If you google the authors and check out their Bioscience resource project it would appear that these people are profiting from scaring people.
Hey, maybe they are right (although I am very sceptically) but right now it looks like profiteering by means of fear.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)And a more careful & deliberate science that is not frantically driven by narrow-minded profit-seeking corporations.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)and feed people who otherwise would not be fed.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)There really isn't a GOOD argument for these GMO foods. The American public are the primary guinea pigs. It would be wise to avoid them as much as possible.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)There is no good argument against GMO foods. There is no proof of any of these fantastic charges.
Starvation is real and is going on now.
Also, it is not just Americans who eat this. The whole world uses GMO crops now. Open your eyes just a little, will you please.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Those who are eating them have NO idea of the dangers.
Open your eyes to the dangers and risks.
GMO foods are NOT the answer to starvation in the world.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)Moral Blackmail
Many opponents argue that biotech companies are using world hunger as a form of "moral blackmail" to sell GMOs. Consumers feel they have to accept biotechnology or else they feel guilty about standing in the way of progress to help stop world hunger (Knee, 2000). The companies make themselves out to be the saviors of hungry people throughout the world, but do not actually use their expertise to help developing nations because they have no profit incentive.
http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/spring01/denlinger/problems.html
+1
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)If you are incapable of doing so then I suggest you accept that GMOs do more good than harm.
I agree that the companies are out to make profits. I would never suggest otherwise. That does not change the fact that more food can be produced on the same land with the same resources using GMO crops than non altered crops.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)and if you want to get into this new 'golden rice' gmo crap that you have to eat 2.2 pounds of to get the same vitamin A as 1 mango, but it is also supposed to 'save the world', i have some thoughts on that, also.
sorry, got the threads mixed up there, those posts, from this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022243841
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)or you could do your own checking. try googling 'gmo yield improvement'
A study from the Union of Concerned Scientists shows that genetically engineered crops do not produce larger harvests. Crop yield increases in recent years have almost entirely been due to improved farming or traditional plant breeding, despite more than 3,000 field trials of GM crops.
from SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, those legendary commies!
wisechoice
(180 posts)VANDANA SHIVA: (interviewed in 2006) Indian farmers have never committed suicide on a large scale. Its something totally new. Its linked to the last decade of globalization, trade liberalization under a corporate-driven economy. The seed sector was liberalized to allow corporations like Cargill and Monsanto to sell unregulated, untested seed. They began with hybrids, which cant be saved, and moved on to genetically engineered Bt cotton.
The cotton belt is where the suicides are taking place on a very, very large scale. It is the suicide belt of India. And the high cost of seed is linked to high cost of chemicals, because these seeds need chemicals. In addition, these costly seeds need to be bought every year, because their very design is to make seeds nonrenewable, seed that isnt renewable by its very nature, but whether its through patenting systems, intellectual property rights or technologically through hybridization, nonrenewable seed is being sold to farmers so they must buy every year.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: The Farmer Suicide Belt of India | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/environment/farmer-suicide-belt-india#ixzz2Ip6epVXO
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)try posting a link or fact, perhaps.
randome
(34,845 posts)Once we entered the industrial revolution. But I agree, we need less destructive ways to manage our insatiable appetite for change.
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)which means non profit.
they guy that wrote the article has a master's in genetics AND virology. and gets his MONEY by presenting at scientific conferences.
what do you 'know', precisely?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)to assume that they are not making any money is foolish
What I know is that there is no hard evidence for any of these accusations. Once there is some then I will change my opinion. Until there is some my opinion stands. GMOs are doing more good than harm.
wisechoice
(180 posts)There is neither hard evidence that GMOs are good. This is real massive live experiment going on and people refuse to label GMOs because we can then document the result of this experiment. Even wonder why they refuse to label GMOs?
patrice
(47,992 posts)Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)There are millions of laboratory rodents that are being fed daily with... what? Non-GMO rodent chow? Does such a thing even exist? If virtually all the corn produced today is GMO, then wouldn't their regular chow be derived from GMO corn?
patrice
(47,992 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)To the common person it means hidden, also, but with supernatural overtones not present in technical and scientific contexts.
patrice
(47,992 posts)processes and procedures can address it? They have no way of "seeing" it deductively?
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)For a grim (fictional) picture of our genetically altered, globally warming future.
patrice
(47,992 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)...but since almost all the 'science' that has been done has been skewed by corporate funding or other dubious means, we have missed some huge issues and we need real, impartial science to know the truth about GMOs.
Despite this, corporations continue to spew out massive quantities of GMO SEEDS and foods in an occult (unlabeled) manner, thereby violating the rights of every human being to know what they are eating.
patrice
(47,992 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)This is embarrassing.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Or the same company fighting putting GMO labels on their food stuff products. If these foods are just as good and there are no problems they should be happy to label them GMO.
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wisechoice
(180 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, Monsanto et al aren't going to give that reason. Many people won't knowingly put food in their bodies that could cause cancer cells to grow faster or cause abnormalities in their cell linings.
wisechoice
(180 posts)whenever I ask this question. THey know the answer too