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kentuck

(111,092 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:31 PM Jan 2013

Some folks are not happy with a "caretaker" Presidency.

What is a "caretaker" Presidency?

It is one where the President in power simply holds the office until the next President takes power. Some might say that Bill Clinton was a "caretaker" President? He never made any great changes of note, other than the FMLA legislation. He only held the office until George W Bush and the Repubs took over and they made historical changes, and they were not good for this country.

Most DUers, in my opinion, do not want this President to simply hold the office for the next four years and then turn it over to some right-wing Republican. They want him to accomplish things for the people that voted him into office. They want Senators and Congressmen that will fight for these changes.

Why should they fight for these changes? Because the country and the people need them. Those that are happy with the status quo and the caretaker aspect of governing don't seem to really care?

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Some folks are not happy with a "caretaker" Presidency. (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2013 OP
President Obama already is one of the most historic Presidents ever, and continues. graham4anything Jan 2013 #1
Yes! goclark Jan 2013 #2
But he could be unless... kentuck Jan 2013 #4
Vote only democratic candidates in 2014 and get rid of the repubs.They have the house graham4anything Jan 2013 #8
What exactly is "historic" supposed to mean? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #10
Is there a point here? WinkyDink Jan 2013 #3
Meanwhile my family is barely treading water financially. canoeist52 Jan 2013 #5
Rising prices are a sign of an upturn in the economy, meaning that is a good thing. graham4anything Jan 2013 #12
Actually, I was talking about food, fuel and health prices - not housing. canoeist52 Jan 2013 #15
you made a statement about cost of buildings(like a house or commercial lot). graham4anything Jan 2013 #18
Thank for reading my post . I believe it was cost of LIVING. canoeist52 Jan 2013 #20
So balancing the budget and the only increase in median wages in 30 years are "caretaker"? Recursion Jan 2013 #6
It was temporary. kentuck Jan 2013 #7
It was temporary because the idiot child-king who came after him gutted revenues Recursion Jan 2013 #9
And that's the point. kentuck Jan 2013 #11
Blame any idiot that voted for Ralph Nader in 2000, or stayed home listening to his drivel lies. graham4anything Jan 2013 #13
That is bullshit. kentuck Jan 2013 #14
Hillary45, for the continuation of all great things. Then Michelle46.Supreme Court Obama'18 graham4anything Jan 2013 #16
Thank you. We need something to move forward TO not just run away from. canoeist52 Jan 2013 #17
John Quincy Adams never would have voted for Ralph Nader to throw elections to republicans graham4anything Jan 2013 #19
Huh? canoeist52 Jan 2013 #21
your signature. No, JQA would not have wasted his vote on Ralph Nader. graham4anything Jan 2013 #22
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. President Obama already is one of the most historic Presidents ever, and continues.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jan 2013

which is why we need Hillary45 to give us 8 more years of historic moving forward that started in 2008.

who in the world said President Obama is a caretaker? Last thing he is.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
8. Vote only democratic candidates in 2014 and get rid of the repubs.They have the house
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

and it keeps seeming so many democratic senators want to leave the senate and do others things.

Since when is being senator and governor a bad job for Democratic senators and governors and why don't we win more of them?


 

NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
10. What exactly is "historic" supposed to mean?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

We are moving forward? Where to? Is Utopia in sight? Is this objectively measurable? Whose statistics are you going to use?

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
5. Meanwhile my family is barely treading water financially.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

Another family member lost his job this week because the company can't afford the rent a the mall where he worked. And rising costs of living are killing any gains the rest of us make. It's not a game to most of us. Talk about REALITY.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. Rising prices are a sign of an upturn in the economy, meaning that is a good thing.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jan 2013

Or do you want house prices to fall?

sounds like another 3rdparty ites.

Remember, it was Ralph Nader throwing the election in 2000 that created the whole mess.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
18. you made a statement about cost of buildings(like a house or commercial lot).
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
Jan 2013

Gas is 70cents lower today than last year.

and come 2014, the health care will be better than its been in 50 years, and getting better every day.

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
20. Thank for reading my post . I believe it was cost of LIVING.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jan 2013

You know, that thing that the people that don't matter do.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. So balancing the budget and the only increase in median wages in 30 years are "caretaker"?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jan 2013

If so, I'll have more caretaker presidencies, please!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. It was temporary because the idiot child-king who came after him gutted revenues
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

That was a very sustainable growth all told; it survived the tech stock bubble because actual working people were seeing wage increases. I remember McDonalds hiring for twice the minimum wage.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
11. And that's the point.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

Which had the most impact on our economy and our history? Anybody can build a pretty straw house and it is blown down when the first wind comes up...

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
16. Hillary45, for the continuation of all great things. Then Michelle46.Supreme Court Obama'18
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jan 2013

Voting for Nader allowed him to reap $$$millions$$$ and keep the whine going
anyone who fell for his republican financed crap and then whines is wanting to whine

Ralph himself of course is an intellectually lazy man, not actually wanting to do any grunt work.
No grunt, just whine.
Could have run for senate or house, but that would have taken actual work.
Same with anyone who voted for Perot or John Anderson or George Wallace or Alf Landon.

easier to whine that way.
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
19. John Quincy Adams never would have voted for Ralph Nader to throw elections to republicans
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:08 PM
Jan 2013

but feel free to vote for the next Ralph Nader.

Jeb Bush would be proud of you doing so.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
22. your signature. No, JQA would not have wasted his vote on Ralph Nader.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:18 PM
Jan 2013

your signature is-
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”~John Quincy Adams

btw, if only democratic voters did not toss LBJ into the river in 1968, he would have beaten Nixon and then never would Reagan/Ford/41/43 ever been president nor would Jeb be the #1 probability for nominee of the repubs in 2016.

so anything bad would have been erased nationally had that happened
(especially as Nixon sabatoged the peace talks in Vietnam, as did Reagan/Bush sabatoge Jimmy Carter the same way in 1980).

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