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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Won’t We Talk About Violence and Masculinity in America?
http://msmagazine.com/blog/2012/12/17/why-wont-we-talk-about-violence-and-masculinity-in-america/Young white men have entitlements and privileges that, when combined with disappointment, illness, loss and soul-strippingly unhealthy and common glorification of violence, can lead to tragedy. The only place I heard this discussed this weekend was on MSNBCs Up with Chris Hayes, when Salons David Sirota pointed out that white men are really the only group in America that is not allowed to be profiled. We need more white men like David Sirota and Chris Hayes, who disproportionately make up our media experts and political leaders, to step up and talk openly about exactly this. About how ideas about whiteness and maleness are not only our unquestioned norms, but are imbued with an innocence and authority that makes it almost impossible to critically talk about them in terms of a pattern of horrific events like Sandy Hook.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Also, Adam Lanza was the son of a Wall Street banker. What privilege was slipping away from him, again?
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)So there is an issue there.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Without that comparison, the numbers mean nothing.
Phillip McCleod
(1,837 posts)i think the conversation would go farther if we examined the masculinity correlation first and then look at the racial component. let's not forget that machismo and masculine posturing are not unique to white men. people of all races have a terrible propensity for violence that is completely lopsided along the gender line, whether the violence is domestic or military.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Welcome to the quarterly "what's wrong with men" issue of Ms Magazine.
Seriously? Cognitive dissonance much? What you're doing is EXACTLY profiling.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)S.A.M
(162 posts)Masculinity has been used as tool for social engineering for hundreds of years. The great revolution of the 60's challenged sex role playing. We need another revolution to raise conscience for more independent thinking on role playing. That's my opinion
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)Talk to any high school boy who lacks interest in sports and/or reads a lot or plays classical music or dances and/or is small and slight.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)The gist of what he said was that the late teenage years and the early 20s are the most difficult times for men in our society. He also said that it is unfortunate, even in our very white state, that the majority of the incarcerated men are non-whites.
It makes me think that these mass shooters, who are predominantly white, are falling through our justice system's net. Maybe we should be rooting them out more.
DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)... I kill, therefore I am.
Extreme violence is by no means limited by gender, nationality, race, age, education, religion, height, weight, eye color, or any other criterion for classifying human individuals, so feel free to substitute your own characteristics into the lyrics of this Phil Ochs' song.
Phil just happened to choose 'masculine' and 'American'...perhaps based on his experiences, the times in which he lived, and the hopes he had for change.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Indeed, the nexus of masculinity and violence is as old as...well, pretty old.