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ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:04 PM Feb 2013

Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress, Report Finds



Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul has been named one of the most corrupt members of Congress in a new report from the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

The report says Paul "double-billed" his travel expenses a number of times over the last decade, meaning he may have been reimbursed for the same flights both under his official allowance as congressman, and by either non-profit groups under his control or his campaign committee.

The revelation would be ironic in part because Paul made fiscal responsibility a central tenet of his 2012 presidential campaign. The congressman celebrated a major victory in July when his bill to audit the Federal Reserve for greater transparency passed the House.

Paul's possible double-billing has been in the public eye since Roll Call first reported it in February, but CREW says there is no evidence Paul has repaid the money since.

A request for comment from Paul's office was not immediately returned.


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Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress, Report Finds (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 OP
Ho boy... dorkzilla Feb 2013 #1
Yes I know a lot of Paulbots....even if it's an older article.... ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #4
LOL! You little devil you... dorkzilla Feb 2013 #14
My condolences about your bro. ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #20
"Dr. Paul"? Grins Feb 2013 #22
Yeah, and they say it as though he's a close personal friend ("Dr Paul was just saying...") dorkzilla Feb 2013 #35
"Dr. Paul! Dr. Paul!" OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #37
I have one of those in my family, too. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #27
That's the worst part for me, trying to make sense of the thought process... dorkzilla Feb 2013 #34
Right. Or--- they control the whole planet, but they're terrified of your AR-15. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #38
And they would probably refer the video segment roxy1234 Feb 2013 #41
This article is from September of last year. DesMoinesDem Feb 2013 #2
Of course, that doesn't make it false arcane1 Feb 2013 #5
True, but I do recall at the time this being debunked. DesMoinesDem Feb 2013 #6
"a republican journalist that was supporting Newt." Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #9
"...some allegations" cheapdate Feb 2013 #28
i'm betting he doesn't fly coach pscot Feb 2013 #33
Oh, it was probably just a clerical error. progressoid Feb 2013 #3
No one could have predicted that. Scuba Feb 2013 #7
I read an article about his ineffectiveness as a legislator... Blanks Feb 2013 #8
Grifters otohara Feb 2013 #10
I have to get that book. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #21
One of the few timdog44 Feb 2013 #11
k&r... spanone Feb 2013 #12
Aha! shenmue Feb 2013 #13
Funny thing about Paul was......... busterbrown Feb 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Dopeslap Feb 2013 #16
The truth is "No Spend" Paul charged lots for his travel, no cheap deals for him. Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #17
My God I love seeing this loony taken down a notch Recursion Feb 2013 #18
It's good to know double billing of travel expenses is as corrupt as US Congress members get. Prometheus Bound Feb 2013 #19
Yes. I feel much better now too. KurtNYC Feb 2013 #40
Imagine that me b zola Feb 2013 #23
Like I've said all along RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #24
He's no longer in Congress. cali Feb 2013 #25
Blasphemmmmmy! He's the Ron Paul LURVOLUTION! Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #26
While double billing travel expenses is unethical, and corrupt...this is one of the MOST corrupt? Sheepshank Feb 2013 #29
No doubt. But this is nonetheless fun to rub into the faces of PaulBots everywhere. ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #30
No, really? rivegauche Feb 2013 #31
IIRC, he was tops in nepotism too JHB Feb 2013 #32
Bookmarking for future reference. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2013 #36
He reminds me of a 21st-century Ross Perot Tab Feb 2013 #39

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
14. LOL! You little devil you...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:56 PM
Feb 2013

I just can't stand the insanity anymore. Brother and I got into a fight the other night because he is one of the "Newtown is a hoax" nut jobs. Loves "Dr. Paul" and Alex Jones in equal measure.

I keep begging my father to tell me they're the milkman's kids.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
20. My condolences about your bro.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:36 AM
Feb 2013

I have a sister and BIL who are rabid teabaggers who can't stand "socialism" but never EVER send their SS or disability checks back. They sure like "socialism" when the money's coming THEM. Blazing idiots.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
35. Yeah, and they say it as though he's a close personal friend ("Dr Paul was just saying...")
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:57 PM
Feb 2013

Also, under the tutelage of the good doctor these 2 siblings, who by the way have zero mathematical aptitude, have blossomed into Economists.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. I have one of those in my family, too.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:01 PM
Feb 2013

it is fucking MADDENING. "Oh, there are inconsistencies to the story"

Alex Jones is a fucking shitbag.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
34. That's the worst part for me, trying to make sense of the thought process...
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:52 PM
Feb 2013

When I dazzle him this thing called facts his response is "that's a straw man, they're full of shit. Wake up before its too late!". He was trying to explain the New World Order to me and I realize he's talking about an alleged plot that's been going on for the better part of a century. I said "well if it's true, they're either the most incompetent or laziest group of people...you'd think that people as cunning and devious as you say they are would have succeeded in their bid to control the world by now."

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. Right. Or--- they control the whole planet, but they're terrified of your AR-15.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:08 AM
Feb 2013

Not sure how that works.

 

roxy1234

(117 posts)
41. And they would probably refer the video segment
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:41 AM
Feb 2013

by Lawrence O'donnell to you where he sorta debunks the whole Ron Paul is stealing tax payer money for flights.



The fucker has a lot of things wrong with him but stealing tax payer money for flight isn't one of em. I bet if someone looks closely, they will find connection between him and the Koch brothers.
 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
6. True, but I do recall at the time this being debunked.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:31 PM
Feb 2013

Not that it matters. If I remember correctly CREW didn't say he was one of the most corrupt members of congress, they just gave him a dishonorable mention based on some allegations made buy a republican journalist that was supporting Newt.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
28. "...some allegations"
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:12 PM
Feb 2013

CREW alleges that evidence exists that shows Paul improperly accepted public reimbursement for expenses on 52 occasions. Some of the evidence -- which is meticulously documented in the CREW report -- includes the official U.S. House of Representatives 'Statements of Disbursement", photocopies of Ron Paul's American Express statements, and photocopies of cancelled checks from the Liberty Committee.

Paul's spokesman practically admits some of the allegations may be true, while at the same time trying to dismiss the activity as inconsequential and the investigation of it as petty and partisan. Bullshit.

CREW has a long history of accurately exposing genuine misdeeds by elected public officials. This is more than just "...some allegations."

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
8. I read an article about his ineffectiveness as a legislator...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:44 PM
Feb 2013

About the time his huge victory with the 'FED audit' legislation passed the house.

He doesn't play well with others and that's why so very few of his legislative efforts are seen all the way through (or acted on at all). I'm sure his 'audit the FED' legislation only passed the house because so many congresspersons knew that the senate wouldn't even look at it.

I believe he has some kind of gold business too; which is probably why he rails on about returning to the gold standard. He expects to personally benefit from that somehow.

I saw a video where he discussed eliminating the FED and he said he didn't know what it would be replaced with; we just need to eliminate it. The man is a loose cannon. Hopefully he won't be back. It's a shame he doesn't take his son out of politics with him.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
15. Funny thing about Paul was.........
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:28 PM
Feb 2013

that most of his supporters were young college aged men. They just adored his stance on war, pot and hookers. I think that once they signed on with Paul, they couldn’t have cared less about his support for States Rights or his anti-woman’s rights rhetoric,,

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. The truth is "No Spend" Paul charged lots for his travel, no cheap deals for him.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:40 PM
Feb 2013

Instead of purchasing his tickets early his excuse was he might to have to change his travel plans but a cheap ticket with changes was cheaper than the tickets he was purchasing. He is rotten to the core, attaching earmarks to bills he knew was going to pass and voted against the bills while claiming he did nit vote for any spending and run to his district with the proceeds. The Paul ots will defend hi. to the end but it does not change his dirty games.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. Blasphemmmmmy! He's the Ron Paul LURVOLUTION!
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:55 PM
Feb 2013

LURV! LURV! SO MUCH LURV HE WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE FDA! GETTIN RID OF NOT JUST TEH ILLUMINATI FED LIZARDS BUT ALSO THEIR TOTALITARIANIFICATIN' FOOD REGULATIONS? THAT"S PURE LURRRRRRV!!!!!



 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
29. While double billing travel expenses is unethical, and corrupt...this is one of the MOST corrupt?
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:18 PM
Feb 2013

seems like the bar had been set exceptionally low here (and I'm not Paul or Rand cheerleader), and a ton of other excruciatingly nasty shit being completely ignored.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
32. IIRC, he was tops in nepotism too
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:03 PM
Feb 2013

I'm not where I can track down the source, but I recall a report saying he had the most relatives as (campaign?) staffers, so his perpetual campaign organization also served as a family cash cow.

But then, if you believed what he claimed about racism in his newsletters (I.e., that he didn't have a hand in the newsletters) then he effectively admitted to defrauding his subscribers. It was one or the other.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
39. He reminds me of a 21st-century Ross Perot
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:59 AM
Feb 2013

Initially he looks fine, revolutionary even. And yet some of his policies and proposals are decidely retrograde. It's important to keep in mind that Paul is a Libertarian more than an Republican. As for double-dipping, I can't speak to that, his persona is that everything is transparent and above-board, but if he really was doing it (to his knowledge, as opposed to his campaign manager) then that to me would be the kiss of death.

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