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Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:07 PM

When the Word is Given

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On the eve of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Day press conference/ rally in Binghamton, N.Y., where I announced a hunger strike, I read the introduction to Thomas Merton's 1964 book, “Gandhi on Non-Violence.” Dr. King was, of course, influenced by Gandhi and Christian theologians, such as Father Merton. Likewise, my hunger strike – undertaken to pressure NYS Senator Tom Libous to meet with a couple of the grass roots leaders of the pro-environment, anti-hydrofracking groups – was as a result of my understanding of these men's examples.

Merton wrote about Western Civilization as a One-Eyed Giant. This giant has succeeded in its attempts to master “matter,” but had failed to comprehend its meaning. The giant attempts to tame the wilderness, because he feels alone and uncomfortable in the Natural World. The One-Eyed Giant has fallen from grace.

The giant lacks the wisdom of his older sibling, the natural, Native People of the Earth. In order to reduce his high level of anxiety, the giant also attempts to tame the Native People. In the case of the United States, Dr. King wrote, “We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population.” This national policy is not a relic of the distant past.

I told the people at the rally about a time, in 1980, when Onondaga Chief Oren Lyons told a group of non-Indian people in Binghamton to be aware that, in a relatively short time, the combination of corporations and government would treat them in exactly the same manner that they currently treated the residents of Indian Territory. We witness this today, when corporate-government selects specific regions as “national sacrifice areas.” The large gas industries are fully aware, for example, that hydrofracking will destroy the land, air, and water in huge segments of upstate New York. They are equally aware that this environmental devastation will result in sky-rocketing cancer rates among today's younger generation. But profit motives dictate.

Merton wrote that, “It is true that neither the ancient wisdom nor the modern sciences are complete in themselves. They do not stand alone.” Certainly, modern science offers many benefits. The rally was held within walking distance of two good hospitals. Modern medicine brings about many miracles. Most of us have a member of our extended family who is fighting cancer. The medical community continues to make advances in the technology needed to treat such brutal diseases.

The medical community also has the wisdom to tell individuals not to increase the risks to their health by smoking. And in 2011, the Bassett Medical Group of Cooperstown, which is the largest health care provider in the three-county area, has come out against hydrofracking. Both their board of directors and their medical staff have issued position papers that document the risks that hydrofracking poses to the public's health.

Yet the One-Eyed Giant lacks the depth perception needed to see the long-term consequences of hydrofracking. The giant is blinded by gluttony, and can only see the illusion of immediate financial gratification. This simplistic view is contagious: the gas corporations have spread trhe virus of greed to politicians and to some land-owners who are desperate for income.

Those politicians and land-owners call the pro-environment, anti-hydrofracking community “tree-huggers.” In some of the gas corporations' internal documents, they refer to us as “insurgents.” This is so wrong. We are university professors and high school students; attornies and physicians; factory workers and farmers; military veterans and patriots. And we call upon the pro-hydrofracking community's sense of humanity, so that they might see that we are their friends and neighbors. We are not, to paraphrase Willard Romney, jealous of them. No, we are working for what we know is best for our communities.

In his December, 2011 letter, Senator Libous thanked me for sharing “the wisdom of Chief Paul Waterman” with him. But, he noted, his mind was already made up, and there was no chance of his changing his mind. As I spoke about this, at the Martin Luther King Day rally in Binghamton, the audience recognized how this fit Merton's One-Eyed Giant. One lady had brought documentation of how much the gas industries had contributed to Senator Libous. Small wonder that Libous would not want to talk with us.

A week later, I was able to participate in a large rally of pro-environment, anti-hydrofracking citizens, at the Capital Building in Albany, NY. I was honored to be among the speakers there, addressing about 750 people. I outlined the communications and failures to communicate between Senator Libous and myself. I spoke of my experiences while employed at the Chenango County Mental Health Clinic, where my duties included “community crises response.” I said that no matter if a crisis involved a single family, a neighborhood, or a community, that the failure to communicate respectfully always increases tensions. And more, that initiating some level of communication is always required to lessen tensions.

I spoke about a group of high school students, who were writing letters-to-the-editor of local newspapers, and taking up a petition to Senator Libous. Not all of these students were absolutely anti-hydrofracking. But they wanted to let Senator Libous know that his behavior was absolutely the opposite of what they were learning in their classes, about how government was supposed to work. They were saying that the Amendment 1 right “to petition the Government for a redress of grievances” was vital to our Constitutional democracy – and that this implies that elected officials listen to the citizens they are supposed to represent. Indeed, these students were organizing a rally, to be held at Senator Libous's Binghamton office.

Word travels quickly inside the Capital Building. A couple hours later, I was meeting with Tom Libous. He attempted to impress on me the amount of work he does on behalf of the students in his district. This confirmed my belief that he would not welcome the publicity that these high school students would bring about.

He also said that there were thousands of people in his district who are strongly opposed to hydrofracking, and that he couldn't possibly meet with every one of them. I noted that there were 750 such citizens there, most of whom were wearing “I Support Patrick's Hunger Strike” stickers, and carrying large signs that said the same thing ….and that all of them were asking him to meet with me. Libous would later tell an Albany reporter that our meeting was “cordial.” I would agree with that, but add that it made no sense to avoid meeting with me to begin with.

The struggle is not over. There will be more communications between myself and Senator Libous and his staff. However, to be fair and accurate, of the three people I have focused on – Libous, Governor Cuomo, and Robert Kennedy, Jr. – only Senator Libous has responded. Because my family is concerned about the toll this hunger strike took on my health, I have promised to take some time to heal. But I am examining the options for doing a second hunger strike, either outside Andrew Cuomo's office in Albany, or at Kennedy's office at Pace University. It's a shame that those two are less willing to talkto the grass roots leaders of the anti-hydrofracking community, than a republican politician who accepts thousands of dollars from the gas industry.

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H2O Man Jan 2012 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2012 #1
bigtree Jan 2012 #2
annabanana Jan 2012 #3
sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #19
stevedeshazer Jan 2012 #4
hootinholler Jan 2012 #5
blm Jan 2012 #8
rtassi Jan 2012 #6
bleever Jan 2012 #7
H2O Man Jan 2012 #9
bleever Jan 2012 #14
raouldukelives Jan 2012 #10
sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #11
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #33
Auggie Jan 2012 #12
The Traveler Jan 2012 #13
bananas Jan 2012 #15
Octafish Jan 2012 #16
H2O Man Jan 2012 #36
Peace Patriot Jan 2012 #38
Solly Mack Jan 2012 #17
limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #18
wordpix Jan 2012 #20
Zorra Jan 2012 #21
malaise Jan 2012 #22
EFerrari Jan 2012 #23
The Wielding Truth Jan 2012 #24
chervilant Jan 2012 #25
freshwest Jan 2012 #26
valerief Jan 2012 #27
davidthegnome Jan 2012 #28
KT2000 Jan 2012 #29
jerseyjack Jan 2012 #30
H2O Man Jan 2012 #37
DesertFlower Jan 2012 #31
femmocrat Jan 2012 #32
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #34
myrna minx Jan 2012 #35
74randy Jan 2012 #39
Peace Patriot Jan 2012 #40
G_j Jan 2012 #41

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

1. What an excellent post, my dear H20 Man!

I admire your courage. Few have it the way you do; I certainly don't.

And I must also say that I'm surprised that Cuomo and Kennedy haven't met with you. Are they under the thumb of the hydrofracking people too?

I will keep the avatar I currently have for at least as long as your struggle on our behalf goes on. It is certainly the least I can do.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

2. glad you're taking time to heal

. . . gladder still that you care enough to have placed yourself at risk for this important cause. Maybe we can work harder to help you avoid making the same sacrifice just to get a hearing from these politicians.

Happy to hear you're well and that you made some progress in your campaign for dialogue on the fracking.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

3. I am not surprised that you haven't heard from Cuomo. But it disappoints me that RFK Jr has

not responded.

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Response to annabanana (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:58 PM

19. Yes, Cuomo is not a surprise, but RFK Jr definitely is.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

4. +1

Glad you are okay.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 01:39 PM

5. There is so much fresh water in the appalachian plateau

The effects of it being wasted by fracking byproducts and gas leakage will be devastating.

What will the finger lakes be like in 5 years after fracking fouls their sources?

What will the Chesapeake Bay be like? The Delaware Bay?

Thank you for your leadership in showing us how one man can make a difference with a little help from his friends.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:48 PM

8. ^^^^

^^^^^

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:10 PM

6. Thank you for putting your body, mind, and essence into your passionate beliefs ...

No one could ask more!
RT

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:35 PM

7. K&R

and continued best wishes. You are the very model of the citizen activist, and I hope many students will be informed and inspired by your example.

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Response to bleever (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:48 PM

9. Yesterday, a teacher

from a local school district asked me if I would speak to an assembly of students. Of course, I would be glad to.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:29 PM

14. Most excellent.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:28 PM

10. K&R

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:33 PM

11. It is very disappointing that Robert Kennedy, a known environmentalist will not meet

with you to discuss this. I wonder why as I would have expected him to be a leader in the fight against fracking?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:38 PM

33. yeah, that strikes me odd too.

:perplexed:

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:03 PM

12. K&R

We will be listened to, and change can happen, if we are large enough, vocal enough, and unified enough.

Thank you, H2O Man.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:14 PM

13. Eloquence and action

 

You are doing great work, mate. Take care of yourself ... we can scarce afford having your like fall ill and out of action.

Trav

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:30 PM

15. k&r nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:45 PM

16. Thank you for walking the walk.

Cuomo and RFK, Jr. have had their hands tied. Why they do not slip out of their bounds or call out for help is beyond my understanding.

My guess? The whole Thing is poised to collapse and any chance for the nation's survival requires them to go along. Why else continue down the path denying the environment's collapse while the well-to-do build redoubts in Paraguay and seed vaults north of the Arctic Circle?

It is most reassuring to know it is you who is watching the watchers, H2O Man. Heal and your scars will shame them.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:58 AM

36. I can understand

Andrew Cuomo, for he is an ambitious man. And I do not intend that in a complimentary way.

My wife has given me her impressions of Robert, based upon our earlier contact with him, and what some of his former associates have told us. I plan to contact him again -- I'll be writing a letter today -- to explain how two speakers in Albany had planned to attack him, until I was able to convince them to hold off, at least for now.

There are people who fold, and compromise their values, under pressure. There are also those who do their best work under that same pressure. Hence, the photo in the OP, of Minister Malcolm X standing on the steps of the Capital Building in Albany.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:13 PM

38. Paraguay elected a leftist president, Fernando Lugo...

...a former bishop (known as "the bishop of the poor" in 2008, overturning 60 years of rightwing rule including a heinous dictatorship. Just before voters elected Lugo, the government rescinded its anti-extradition law and its law immunizing U.S. military personnel from prosecution for crimes. Paraguay is thus no longer a haven for wealthy, fascist criminals.

The rightwing party did this because "the times they are a-changin'" in Latin America, and Paraguay needed to get rid of rogue laws like these to gain the benefits of the huge leftist movement that has swept South America (and parts of Central America), the goals of which are Latin American independence and sovereignty, social justice and economic/political integration and cooperation.

During its long nightmare of rightwing rule, Paraguay gained a reputation for harboring rich criminals. Indeed, there were rumors, just prior to Lugo's election, that the Bush Cartel was purchasing a huge swath of land in Paraguay, on the biggest aquifer (water source) in Latin America. (Most of Paraguay's revenues come from hydroelectric power.) No one has been able to confirm this purchase, that I know of. It's possible that it was hushed up. (Paraguay still has powerful rightwing elements. The Bush purchase was rumored to be adjacent to property owned by Rev. Moon.) But my educated guess is that it never occurred--and the reason may be that war criminals like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld no longer have protection from extradition from Paraguay. (Long story, but there are investigations/prosecutions going forward in Colombia that could conceivably result in indictment of the above for war crimes in Colombia. There is also the danger of extradition to other venues--Spain, for instance, or the Hague--for war crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan and in torture dungeons around the globe.)

Immunity for U.S. military personnel is also a BIG issue in Latin America. The undoing of this law in Paraguay resulted in Lugo, once in office, refusing U.S. military boots on the ground in Paraguay. The Bushwhacks had trumped up a "terrorist" presence in Paraguay (in the Tri-corner area) in order to beef up U.S. military forces in this central location in the midst of a vast leftist political revolution (in Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, etc.--all around Paraguay). Possibly this was a preliminary to the Bush purchase of critically important land in Paraguay (if that was ever real)--i.e., to create Paraguay not only as a haven for Bush Junta criminals but also a central organizing place for fascist forces throughout the region, plotting the overthrow of leftist democracies. Denial of immunity to U.S. military personnel makes this much less possible.

Upshot: Paraguay is no longer an appropriate synonym for where rich criminals abscond to.

One internal LatAm criminal (Colombia's spy chief) who had a liaison to the U.S. embassy in Bogota turning the height of the illegal Uribe spying in Colombia, fled to Panama, likely with CIA help, to avoid being called as a witness against Bush pal, Uribe (president and mafia boss of Colombia during the Bush Junta). But even Panama (still a U.S. client state) is having trouble on this asylum matter. It has caused no end of political trouble for its rightwing president (Uribe pal, U.S. ally).

Colombia itself is probably much too dangerous (made a thousand times worse by the Bushwhacks) to be a "haven." Where can rich, fascist criminals go these days?

Possibly to Harvard and Georgetown Universities. (Both gave Uribe cushy academic sinecures. However, I think those were temporary. Uribe is a bit too "hot" to handle.)

I never heard of "seed vaults north of the Arctic Circle." What's with that? I did just learn recently, though, of a NASA hundred year project for finding a new energy source for fast, long distance space travel. Could this project be further along than they are saying (and have the diabolical purpose of removing the super-rich from a dying Earth)? It is mostly privately funded. I have NO REASON to believe ill of this project, and generally support NASA projects enthusiastically, but you gotta wonder, these days, what the very rich and powerful are up to. Where do they think they are going to live amidst the environmental chaos that they have created, not to mention, where can they go to escape the consequences of their more obvious crimes, such as the Iraq War?

The Grand Canyon-wide split between the 1% and the 99% is not just about money. It is about EVERYTHING, including the communal spirit among human beings that has "saved us" in the past, from going extinct a long time ago. Our rogue egotists are often fun (when they are not Hitler, when they are, say, Leonardo da Vinci, or Steve Jobs) and they are sometimes very useful (inventing things like ziplock bags and refrigerators...and iPhones), but it is our ability to work together for the common good that accounts for our success as a species. Without the latter, we are truly lost and we WILL go extinct. This is what the Latin Americans are teaching us right now--if only we would pay attention: how to make the political system work for everybody.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:50 PM

17. K&R

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 05:57 PM

18. Thank you for your work against fracking. Clean water is so important to have.

Fracking affects the water in many states.

The government should protect us from these polluters.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:08 PM

20. sad fact: environmentalists are the "n----rs of the world"

It does not matter if we're talking about hydrofracking, oil drilling, developing farm and forest land, building more nuke plants, mining, clearcut logging, dragging the ocean floor or overfishing. It does not matter if it's a state or national issue like fracking or if you're trying to get a local land use commission to follow its own environmental regs; it's all the same.

That is why the fracking issue is so big. We MUST come together on this issue if we hope to stop other environmental injustices, too. Fracking is not just a bad practice; it's a symbol of all that's wrong in US environmental and energy policy.

We should sue the hell out of these companies based on the Equal Rights Amendment. Environmentalists have NO equal rights compared to the corporate rapists in all the extraction industries.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:21 PM

21. Thank you so very much, my dear H20 man. Words cannot express.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:25 PM

22. Super post Waterman

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:29 PM

23. There is a reporter at Pro Publica that might be interesting to you.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:34 PM

24. Thank you H2O Man. Clean fresh water is our survival.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:04 PM

25. hmm...

In your opinion--given your experiences thus far--should we write to Mr. Kennedy? How would you language a plea to him regarding the dangers of fracking? Is it true that Mr. Kennedy--despite being an environmentalist--benefits financially from hydrofracking?

BTW, thank you for helping encourage activism and political awareness among our young people.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:26 PM

26. Wonderful. K & R

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:26 PM

27. Bravo. You are NOT wet behind the ears!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:36 PM

28. I applaud your courage

just don't starve yourself too far. One of the reasons that Gandhi was so successful is that he was a good speaker, inspiring. From your writings and following I would say that you are as well. Your second hunger strike might meet with success - but not if you aren't well enough to get the message out and to get a little coverage.

I tip my hat - but I don't think I could ever go on a hunger strike because to me it would just seem bizarre to do it intentionally, even for the sake of my beliefs. I've been hungry before, hungry enough to not much care where my next meal came from or what I had to do to get it. It's not a position I ever want to be in again.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:13 PM

29. I applaud your efforts

and committment.
I have worked on toxic chemical/human health and environmental issues for a long time. Industry has done a good job of defining those who work against their dangerous projects in a negative light. People have responded to it too. They have tried to make it a class issue - environmentalists are upper class people trying to tell people what to do and take away jobs from the working class and the corporations are trying to make jobs for people - the working people. This is ridiculous but it has sold well.

The truth is that corporations have been free to sicken people without facing liability - ever. Believe me when I say the books have been cooked. (For a good understanding of how this is accomplished I recommend the book "They're Poisoning Us: From the Gulf War to the Gulf of Mexico" by Arnold Mann. Best investigative book on the subject I have read.) Other than the compensation for property, such as Love Canal, no one is ever held responsible for the damage to human health by toxic chemicals. They are trying to keep it that way.

Keep yelling and don't let them think they are going to get away with it again. Their casulaties used to end up on welfare ir disability. With cutbacks - where are they going to send their victims?

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:30 PM

30. Regarding Chief Lyon,

 

Can you get and post a copy of his speech?

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Response to jerseyjack (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:03 AM

37. That was in the

early 1980s. People weren't filming so much back then. If anyone did film it, I doubt they were on our side.

There is an old PBS program, with Bill Moyers interviewing Oren Lyons. This was part of a series that Moyers was inspired to make after his interviews with Joseph Campbell. Moyers also published two books of transcripts from those interviews; the interview with Oren is in the second volume.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:58 PM

31. K&R. nt

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:24 PM

32. Thank you for the update and your dedication, H2O Man.

Best wishes to you in regaining your health.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 11:40 PM

34. Thank You Patrick!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 09:47 AM

35. Thank you for all that you do. K&R n/t

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 12:25 PM

39. Merton the Man

For more on Merton, you might well enjoy this site: http://mertonocso.wordpress.com/

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:27 PM

40. Much love and courage to you, H20 Man!

Re RFK, Jr. Even our best political leaders are gravely compromised these days, even ones who know what is going on with, say, our voting system. Fear has to be a factor, too. Cross the wrong people and you're dead (or smeared beyond redemption). And so many once good organizations--for instance, the NRDC, and even Greenpeace--have made dreadful compromises in order to maintain funds and power.

One tip about such compromised leaders--of the sort who might be basically good people--in this situation, is to give them a 'narrative' they can use, that might rival the corporate narrative. It is this: Saving the Earth is CONSERVATIVE.

This word, "conservative," has gotten turned on its head. The frackers and their ilk are the real radicals. True conservatives conserve--whether it's other peoples' money or the environment. They don't loot. They don't rip up life's delicate web. True conservatism needs to be severed from the corporate (radical fascist) propaganda. MOST OF US are true conservatives. We love family and community. We sometimes love tradition. We don't like the kind of radical change that rips up communities and displaces people. We care for the elderly, the sick, the young. We support progress but in a stable world. We strongly support education--schools, libraries, people improving themselves. We love communal projects--public parks, public spaces, food banks, joining together to solve problems. We like traditional businesses--family businesses, local businesses, socially responsible businesses. We believe in CONSERVING the community's resources--whether it's small savings in the local bank or the greenery we all enjoy, love and need, or our air and water.

Such a 'narrative' turn--turning "conservative" back to its original meaning--will likely not be enough, but it is something. Words can be powerful. The radical corporate fascists--transglobal corporations with loyalty to no one--have copped this word. But there is NOTHING "conservative" about transglobal corporations destroying the earth.

Back in the 1960s, we had a "liberal" governor of California, Edmund G. Brown, Jr. (Jerry Brown's Dad). I strongly supported him (as a youthful activist) because he was pro-worker, pro-people, anti-capital punishment, etc. But I was not very environmentally conscious. It took some 30 years for me to realize that, during Edmund G. Brown's governorship, the magnificent redwood forest in northern California, that had stood for some 2,000 years, was being decimated. Only 5% remains. This is now a depressed area with NO JOBS. Corporations came and went, and finished the destruction during the 70s, 80s and 90s. The "liberals" have been even worse than our original Republicans in California (they were the environmentalists) on this important issue: deforestation. Brown was into "growth" and "jobs." But those jobs were temporary. The corporate moguls took the resource, wholesale, and all the profits and left the region with nothing! They even destroyed the fishing jobs (logging pollution of salmon spawning streams).

This is--no doubt at all--an excruciating dilemma for "liberals" and it is not new. But when the upshot is an economic and environmental desert--and with the stakes so high now, the literal survival of our matrix of life, Planet Earth--we need to make CONSERVATIVE decisions about resources, and force the corporate profiteers to PAY FOR their social impacts. Indeed, what we need to do is dismantle these monstrous, transglobal corporations--pull their corporate charters, seize their assets for the common good--and do the same to their war profiteering brethren, radicals all. NOT "conservatives."

I'm afraid that, with New York gone the way of Diebold, things are about to get much worse with regard to the People having no representative in government. The fascist/corporate plan is likely to leave little pockets of power for a few "liberal" office holders, so long as they behave. And if fracking is one of their behavior criterion, there is little hope that RFK, Jr. or Cuomo will be responsive. But it might be worth a try, telling them that fracking is NOT "conservative." Protecting the Earth from frakking IS the true conservative position--and they should say so.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2012, 01:33 PM

41. K&R

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