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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:47 PM Feb 2013

Chris Matthews: GOP Using ‘Cold War CIA Tactics’ to Bring Down U.S. Government

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/19/chris-matthews-gop-using-cold-war-cia-tactics-to-bring-down-u-s-government

Chris Matthews: GOP using ‘Cold War CIA tactics’ to bring down U.S. government


By Eric W. Dolan
Tuesday, February 19, 2013 19:17 EST

MSNBC host Chris Matthews tore into the Republican Party on his show Tuesday night, comparing their anti-government attitude to CIA-led coups during the Cold War.

“If they didn’t like a government somewhere — Guatemala, Iran, the Dominican Republic, Chile — they just brought it down,” he said. “Guess what, Republicans are now using the same tactic here at home. If they don’t like who we’ve elected president, they find some way to undermine the government, discredit its leaders, whatever it takes to destroy it.”

“We are using in this country the same old Cold War CIA tactics to destabilize our own country,” Matthews continued. “Look at the impact of the constant threats to shut down the government on public confidence. It’s all in the ratings. It’s making people forever nervous about the basic ability of America to even have a running government. Is that patriotic? I don’t think so.”

The liberal MSNBC host alleged that while President Barack Obama was attempting to keep the government running, Republicans were hoping to gain political points by refusing to compromise and crash the government.

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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. sounds like the scales are falling from Tweety's eyes
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:50 PM
Feb 2013

Be careful, Chris. Once you see the truth, you can never go back to a state of innocence.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
4. All true up to the "liberal" host part ; )
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:38 AM
Feb 2013

Been saying this for a while! They're using their old sleazy tactics they've used for decades against *us* now.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
15. If you and Tweety are correct, would that not mean the domestic right-wing extremist group
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:03 PM
Feb 2013

in Congress is, in reality, a group of home-grown terrorists which is committing treason?

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
16. Ah.. and there's the hard to define word "treason"
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:28 PM
Feb 2013

It's been used in other arguments before to no avail. Although I have "in in my opinion" seen very treasonous things being played out, the governments definition seems to be the same as ours but for some reason it wouldn't play that way in the media and in the courts. This issue has been covered to the n'th degree on the Norman Goldman show.

It's a frustrating thing.

-p

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
7. Why that sounds positively traitorous Chris.....
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:08 AM
Feb 2013

...what on earth should we do about it?

- Hey I know!!! We never did close Guantanamo did we?!?!?




K&R

We People

(619 posts)
8. I thought that was an insightful analogy on his part, and I'm glad he said it - late with it or not
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:10 AM
Feb 2013

I hadn't thought of it being framed like that, but he's right. They're treating more than half the country as a foreign enemy, although they've been our biggest threat for years. It's just so glaringly obvious now.

melody

(12,365 posts)
9. The far right of the GOP most definitely is
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:13 AM
Feb 2013

In fact, I find it rather funny that the "Chinese military" is suddenly doing an electronic attack. And then I remember who was Chief of the Liaison Office in China ... and who designed those CIA cold war tactics. I believe the old man's name started with a B.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
10. Indeed, the GOP of today are basically domestic terrorists to the United States of America
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:19 AM
Feb 2013

I say that in all seriousness. They are trying to ruin this country, and they sure as hell have shown no signs of being patriotic in any way, shape, or form.

The GOP has been a national disgrace for a long time now, a very long time. Now they are looking at new horizons, and embracing treason itself.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
11. It really boils down to two things.
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:41 AM
Feb 2013

Fox News and ALEC/Koch Brothers

Fox News gets these dumb shits elected and ALEC gives these incompetent "legislators" their "model" bills to "rubber stamp".

Until that cycle is broken, this country will be completely broken.

We People

(619 posts)
13. What the heck happened to Raw Story, anyway? I missed that (Sorry, off-topic)
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:00 AM
Feb 2013

It's like a quasi-liberal, half-fluff "news" site.

Definitely a shadow of its former self.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
14. This isn't new -- it's just being amplified
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:23 AM
Feb 2013

The movement conservatives who came out of Young Americans for Freedom back in the 1960s learned those sorts of destabilization tactics by way of CIA officer and YAF founder William Buckley. Just a few years later, the same tactics were finding their way via people in the Nixon reelection campaign (like Buckley's former CIA superior and close pal E. Howard Hunt) to Karl Rove and his buddies at the College Republican National Committee.

What we speak of as GOP dirty tricks are basically CIA methodology -- but up to now, they've been applied mainly to winning elections by undermining the opposition's candidates. The part that's new is extending them past the election season in an attempt to bring down a sitting president.

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