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http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/29/world/americas/canada-honor-murder/index.htmlBy Paula Newton, CNN
updated 3:25 PM EST, Sun January 29, 2012
Guilty verdict in 'honor' murders
Shafia family guilty of Ontario "honor murders"
Three sisters and Shafia's first wife were found dead in a car that plunged into a canal
Kingston, Ontario (CNN) -- A Canadian jury Sunday convicted three members of a family of Afghan immigrants of the "honor" murders of four female relatives whose bodies were found in an Ontario canal.
Mohammed Shafia, 58; his wife, Tooba Mohammad Yahya, 42; and their son, Hamed, 21, were found guilty of first-degree murder in the deaths of Shafia's three teenage daughters and his first wife in his polygamous marriage. Sunday's verdicts followed a three-month trial, in which jurors heard wiretaps of Shafia referring to his daughters as "whores" and ranting about their behavior.
"This is a good day for Canadian justice. Our democratic society protects the rights of all," Gerard Laarhuis, the chief prosecutor in the case, told reporters outside the courthouse in Kingston. "It's a very bad day, because this jury found that four strong, vivacious and freedom-loving women were murdered by their own family."
At least one Shafia family supporter interrupted Laarhuis with shouts of "lies" and called the verdict a "miscarriage of justice." But others cheered the verdict as Laarhuis continued.
The three Shafia sisters -- Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13 -- were found dead inside a car that plunged into the Rideau Canal in Kingston on June 30, 2009. Shafia's first wife, 50-year-old Rona Amir Mohammad, also died.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I am really glad to hear that they were found guilty.....what a horrible crime and these beautiful girls and the woman who loved them as her own.....to die like this....at the hands of those wo should have loved and protected them.....
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)When it first happened the cops thought it was an accidental drowning. They could have gotten away with it.
msongs
(67,403 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Of course, in this country, we'd probably have to let them out to make more prison space for pot smokers; being Canada, maybe they need to let them out to make room for bookstore owners who stock copies of Penthouse.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)If you have one, it would be nice if you could make it without the bizarre mischaracterizations of Canada.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And there are a lot of stupid fucking laws on the books.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)if we prefer to do things our own way up here in the outer darkness of the backwoods, with our quaint stupid fucking laws.
Oddly enough, we do find that it actually works better than the way some others do things.
I guess you didn't want to clarify that bizarre statement about Penthouse magazine. I guess because you couldn't.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)than make it illegal for bookstores to sell magazines with pictures of consenting adults nude or fucking- like Penthouse.
Sort of like how the USA doesn't have anything better to do than stick cancer grannies in prison for growing pot.
But speaking of 'clarification'- I take from your objectifimicatin' tone that you disagree about 'the way to do things' or the way you seem to think I think things ought to be done.. so do you disagree that the folks who killed 4 people should go to prison for life, as I said?
Maybe you don't agree? I can't imagine you're arguing for the Death Penalty, not coming from Canada of all places.. so, what? Life in prison too harsh? Do tell.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)than make it illegal for bookstores to sell magazines with pictures of consenting adults nude or fucking- like Penthouse.
I'm sorry, but I don't even know how to respond to that.
That anyone could be so ignorant of a neighbouring society, one that even speaks the same language and all, and then feel the need to spout the ignorance on the internet ...
so do you disagree that the folks who killed 4 people should go to prison for life, as I said?
So ... you'd prefer to speak for me rather than let me speak for myself?
The individuals have been sentenced to imprisonment for life, and will have the opportunity to apply for parole after 25 years.
Perhaps you decided to post your views about that process without knowledge of it either.
I agree that this is an appropriate process.
I have no idea what you're on about, for the rest.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Isn't common ground great?
iverglas
(38,549 posts)of speaking an honest, untwisted sentence?
I believe you are. I'm going on blind faith, of course.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Luke luck licks lakes.
Luke takes licks in lake luke luck likes
Duck takes licks in lake luke's duck likes.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)...but you're more than happy to berate us poor, stupid Americans over our own laws, how clearly ignorant we are, and how we should be more like you.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)so do as I say, not as I do!"
Of course it would have been much better if the Canadian version of Social Services would have gotten those girls out when they sought help.