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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 10:53 PM Mar 2013

Man kills self in front of children at Bellevue gun-safety class

BELLEVUE, Wash. - A 50-year-old man shot and killed himself during a gun-safety class at a Bellevue gun range.

Brian J. Parry is believed to have shot himself in the head with a pistol Sunday during a class at West Coat Armory, a gun range and dealer with outlets in Bellevue and Issaquah.

Bellevue police spokeswoman Carla Iafrate confirmed that police are investigating the shooting but refused to release details. She said the investigation into Parry’s death is ongoing.

The King County Medical Examiner’s Office earlier this week ruled Parry’s death a suicide. He died of a contact gunshot wound to the head.

more . . . http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Man-kills-self-in-front-of-children-at-Bellevue-gun-safety-class-198073701.html

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Man kills self in front of children at Bellevue gun-safety class (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 OP
Welcome home honey...did you learn anything at school today.?? BlueJazz Mar 2013 #1
Rental gun? rdharma Mar 2013 #2
Range gun. krispos42 Mar 2013 #4
In front of children. Classy. krispos42 Mar 2013 #3
this is a much better story than i have come to, unfortunately, expect arely staircase Mar 2013 #10
Looks like they got an effective demonstration. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #5
best one since this guy arely staircase Mar 2013 #11
Why were children at a gun safety class??? CoffeeCat Mar 2013 #6
Hunter Safety class, perhaps? TheMightyFavog Mar 2013 #8
If we are going to have guns. The least we can do is teach people how to handle them... Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #13
perhaps arely staircase Mar 2013 #23
The object of these classes is to teach gun safety. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #24
i am sure there is some sort of screaning process already and it failed arely staircase Mar 2013 #27
I can assure you there is absolutely no screening process for the students. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #29
that is shame eo arely staircase Mar 2013 #30
In red areas, it's pretty common. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #31
My kids took gun safety in Boy Scouts proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #35
Reminds me of a song by Filter--Hey Man Nice Shot ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #7
ever seen that video? arely staircase Mar 2013 #12
The suicide? ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #16
I saw it and I never want to see something like that again. eom. ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #19
It was horrible ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #20
yes that one arely staircase Mar 2013 #21
Exactly ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #22
Exactly my story. You can't unsee things, indeed. eom. ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #25
I know which video you're talking about. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #32
Here, let me get that for you... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #14
Thanks ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #17
that, friends, is ironic eom arely staircase Mar 2013 #9
Use at your own risk......obviously its about making money.... Historic NY Mar 2013 #15
But but but ... Zoeisright Mar 2013 #18
Is there any indication he was a gun owner? Recursion Mar 2013 #26
Sounds like he did it safely jberryhill Mar 2013 #28
Hey, man, what's a little PTSD among friends? backscatter712 Mar 2013 #33
You know... jberryhill Mar 2013 #34
Yep, it won't affect the kids at all proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #36
Well, it was a "gun safety" class, not a group therapy session jberryhill Mar 2013 #38
Kids bounce back from divorce (sometimes), or death of a grandparent or even car wrecks proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #40
I hope they get a refund. Coyotl Mar 2013 #37
Why, they sure learned how to do those things, no? jberryhill Mar 2013 #39

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
4. Range gun.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:25 PM
Mar 2013

If you want to shoot a gun but don't own one, you can rent one for the duration of your visit.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
3. In front of children. Classy.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:24 PM
Mar 2013

At home in the tub would be a lot better. Best yet, call the suicide hotline and get some help.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
10. this is a much better story than i have come to, unfortunately, expect
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:07 AM
Mar 2013

crazed gunman + room full of children usually = a bunch of dead kids.

sorry for this guy's family and the trauma the kids endured but this could have been so much worse. at least years of therapy means your alive.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. Why were children at a gun safety class???
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:55 PM
Mar 2013

I don't get why children would need to be at a gun-safety class.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
8. Hunter Safety class, perhaps?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:00 AM
Mar 2013

I took one when I was in middle school. Hell, it was practically a rite of passage for boys (and more than a few girls) in Rural Wisconsin. Most of us took the classes in either 6th or 7th grade. Where I came from if a boy DIDN't take hunter safety, he was seen as "odd."

We had firearms safety drilled in to us in those classes. However, all the guns they brought to our classes were always unloaded, save for our one range day.

EDIT: After reading, TFA, it seems that it was a handgun class, not Hunter safety.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
13. If we are going to have guns. The least we can do is teach people how to handle them...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:11 AM
Mar 2013

As safely as possible. Especially children.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
24. The object of these classes is to teach gun safety.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:46 AM
Mar 2013

Not to deconstruct the potential neurosis of those seeking to be trained.

I can't blame any of this on the instructor.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
27. i am sure there is some sort of screaning process already and it failed
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:58 AM
Mar 2013

i suggest it be revisited, that ia all.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
29. I can assure you there is absolutely no screening process for the students.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:02 AM
Mar 2013

The instructors are trained specifically on how to instruct and receive certification and then usually apply to teach the courses.

The students do nothing more than sign up and show up.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
31. In red areas, it's pretty common.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:18 AM
Mar 2013

Kids are getting started off with BB-guns at very young ages. I'm talking eight or nine. They'll move up to a .22 at twelve, or even less.

Not that I agree with it, but I've seen it.

ismnotwasm

(42,020 posts)
16. The suicide?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:19 AM
Mar 2013

Oh yes. I didn't look for it because this was in front of children, that was in front of adults

ismnotwasm

(42,020 posts)
20. It was horrible
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:27 AM
Mar 2013

One of those moments you watch and know can never be taken back. When Filter came out with that song, it was just a few years after my step-daughter's birth mothers suicide-by gun, so it's always had a special resonance with me.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
21. yes that one
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:28 AM
Mar 2013

i had no idea that is what that song was about until about four or five years ago. got into one of those internet wormholes where you realize you have spent a couple of hours of your life reading about something you just stumbled across. and then there i was confronted with the video. i thought very hard about not watching it; i went ahead and did so because i was afraid of it; and so i faced my fears. kinda wish i hadn't because you can't unsee things.

ismnotwasm

(42,020 posts)
22. Exactly
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:31 AM
Mar 2013

I haven't seen it in years and I still remember details, his handing out those sheets of paper to his co-workers, the desperation in his eyes.

Historic NY

(37,454 posts)
15. Use at your own risk......obviously its about making money....
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:12 AM
Mar 2013

and not screening or in the least interviewing prospectives.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
33. Hey, man, what's a little PTSD among friends?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:46 AM
Mar 2013

I'm sure the kids will only need a few years of therapy before they bounce back!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. You know...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:12 AM
Mar 2013

While of course everyone's mileage may vary, but it does not automatically follow that because a child witnesses something traumatic that he or she is in for years of therapy.

Relative to the adults, the children are more likely to "bounce back".

The point, however, is that as far as the goal of "gun safety" is concerned, the class appears to have been an unqualified success.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
40. Kids bounce back from divorce (sometimes), or death of a grandparent or even car wrecks
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:57 PM
Mar 2013

But some of the most traumatized kids I've worked with are those who have witnessed incidents like this. One kid I know ended up in a psych ward after someone was murdered in his house when he wasn't even there. The trauma his parents were experiencing had an impact on the entire family.

So yes I expect these children to be severely traumatized.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
37. I hope they get a refund.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:53 PM
Mar 2013

"Participants paid $75 for three hours of instruction meant to teach students how to load and use pistols and revolvers."

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