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Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 05:59 PM Feb 2012

Do you think the Komen Foundation didn't expect or vastly underestimated the uproar/backlash?

I'm thinking they probably didn't realize the size and intensity of the giant s@#$storm they'd unleash by cutting off Planned Parenthood.

Social media has definitely changed the playing field in a huge way.

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Do you think the Komen Foundation didn't expect or vastly underestimated the uproar/backlash? (Original Post) Arugula Latte Feb 2012 OP
That's why they call it a right-wing echo chamber... joeybee12 Feb 2012 #1
I'm quite sure the wingnut thought we would all applaud the decision Happyhippychick Feb 2012 #2
if they didn't realize, shame on them. if they did realize, shame on them. spanone Feb 2012 #3
It appears political because it IS political... JHB Feb 2012 #6
Judging from today's "Straight Talk" video from "Ambassador" Nancy Brinker avaistheone1 Feb 2012 #4
They never saw it coming hifiguy Feb 2012 #5
True, their own toxic exhaust got them. avaistheone1 Feb 2012 #15
Self-inflicted disaster. earthside Feb 2012 #7
I've been thinking the same thing. This is worse than New Coke. yardwork Feb 2012 #25
Like many entities & individuals....they had no idea how quickly the Internet can mobilize DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #8
And all the Net publicity is unearthing other negative stories about the organization Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #10
When they started suing over "The Cure," I'd hoped Robert Smith would sue THEM REP Feb 2012 #18
Damn straight. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #20
:thumbsup: REP Feb 2012 #22
I read once that David Lynch (Blue Velvet, etc.) is seemingly "normal" and well-adjusted. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #27
What I think is it's no wonder everybody in the world hates our guts tularetom Feb 2012 #9
Take my 1%, please! EFerrari Feb 2012 #11
lofl!!! I'm goin to hell uponit7771 Feb 2012 #23
I think the fat cat 1% females that put SGK together don't understand EFerrari Feb 2012 #12
Unfortunately, some folks end up buying their own hype justiceischeap Feb 2012 #13
Or, as I said above, suing Robert Smith for naming his band The Cure REP Feb 2012 #19
I think they STILL don't understand there's a backlash mainer Feb 2012 #14
The far RW is stunningly tone deaf and completely lacking in self-awareness Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #16
In related news, Mitt Romney leads the Republican clown show... JHB Feb 2012 #17
Yes, very insular attitude uponit7771 Feb 2012 #24
It's called "living in the moment" -- and it's the cornerstone of the Rethug pyschosis. rocktivity Feb 2012 #21
They have no idea how much people are waking up and fighting back malaise Feb 2012 #26
When you get worshipped as long and as hard as they have been customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #28
That organization is done. I won't buy yogurt or anything else with a pink ribbon on it. nt bluestate10 Feb 2012 #29
I think they're realizing now who has been supporting their cause. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #30
Well, well, well ... Look who changed their mind. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #31
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. That's why they call it a right-wing echo chamber...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:01 PM
Feb 2012

The nuts at Komen probably kept hearing back from the other nuts that this would be a great idea and they didn't even consider other people would disagree...they don't even think non-right-wing nutjobs exist!

spanone

(135,830 posts)
3. if they didn't realize, shame on them. if they did realize, shame on them.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:03 PM
Feb 2012

that's why it appears so political.

they are in the brand business...large time.

you don't paint the world pink without knowing marketing

JHB

(37,159 posts)
6. It appears political because it IS political...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:08 PM
Feb 2012

Whatever it did in the past, it is now run by people who are able and very willing, even eager, to use its money as a weapon. To make an example of another organization for reasons that are not related to its stated mission, and, in fact, works against its stated mission.

However one may have felt about its past work, it is run by gangsters now.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
4. Judging from today's "Straight Talk" video from "Ambassador" Nancy Brinker
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:04 PM
Feb 2012

I think Brinker and the Komen Foundation have been both been blinded and baffled by their own bullshit.


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. They never saw it coming
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:07 PM
Feb 2012

because of the RW echo chamber.

There's this thing called the Intertubes now and that there social media, which was never considered. They shit in the punchbowl big time on this one.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
7. Self-inflicted disaster.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:08 PM
Feb 2012

It is looking to me like this could become one of the worst self-inflicted public relations disasters of all time.

This organization may not even survive.

I saw the Brinks video ... it is just awful -- so defensive and yet arrogant.

And this latest news about SGK not giving any money to any research that uses stem cells, well, in one day they have turned themselves into merely a branch of the Religious Right - Tea Party.

But I also think that this is a preview of things to come. I think the one percent and their Repuglican flunkies are ready to wage near total war to completely take over local, state and national government.

This could be the ugliest, dirtiest elections since, well, since when?

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
25. I've been thinking the same thing. This is worse than New Coke.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:19 PM
Feb 2012

There have been public relations disasters for charities before - United Way comes to mind - but those involved scandals with overpaid executives. Those organizations survived by firing the executives, apologizing profusely to their supporters, and implementing new oversight policies.

Susan G. Komen has in one fell swoop destroyed its good name with millions of people and it's not clear to me what they could do to fix this. We now know that founder Nancy Brinker is an overpaid compulsive liar who was a huge supporter of W, part of the Dallas country club set with a husband who made millions helping her market pink trinkets. I had no idea and I'll certainly never trust or support anything SGK ever does again. No walking this one back.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
8. Like many entities & individuals....they had no idea how quickly the Internet can mobilize
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:11 PM
Feb 2012

I've been busy half the morning asking their sponsors on Twitter if they still plan to sponsor them after the Planned Parenthood move, and I'm far from being alone in this endeavor. I think they're probably freaking astounded at the amount of vitriol they're receiving from all quarters.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
10. And all the Net publicity is unearthing other negative stories about the organization
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:23 PM
Feb 2012

such as ts poor record on using donations for actual research, its aggressiveness in prosecuting other groups that dare use the term "Cure" ... I wasn't aware of such criticism before this incident. Long live the Internet!

REP

(21,691 posts)
18. When they started suing over "The Cure," I'd hoped Robert Smith would sue THEM
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 07:00 PM
Feb 2012

He was using The Cure long before they were.

REP

(21,691 posts)
22. :thumbsup:
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 07:16 PM
Feb 2012

Agreed! Though I was a little surprised when I found out he's been happily married like forever and seems to be a rather cheerful person. But yes, I'd love to see that fight

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
27. I read once that David Lynch (Blue Velvet, etc.) is seemingly "normal" and well-adjusted.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:24 PM
Feb 2012

So you never know.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. What I think is it's no wonder everybody in the world hates our guts
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:17 PM
Feb 2012

When we appoint out of touch fools like this brinks woman as "ambassadors".

Her response was the most clueless thing I've seen in months except for every Romney speech.

And god is she fugly. Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it. (apologies to the late great Rodney Dangerfield).

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
12. I think the fat cat 1% females that put SGK together don't understand
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:28 PM
Feb 2012

how most women feel their issues are mostly ignored and how, when you betray them, you are unleashing abandonment issues from hell. The wealthy don't have to deal with that, so how would they know?

I give them 6 months before they close their doors. And will do everything possible to make myself right.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
13. Unfortunately, some folks end up buying their own hype
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:36 PM
Feb 2012

What they've managed to do is guarantee that their brand will be tarnished if not ruined. Reporters will dig and dig and find every dirty little secret because I bet people secretly hate that pink ribbon. I know I do.

If, as a woman, I ever get breast cancer and someone tries feminizing my disease by bombarding me with pink ribbons, teddy bears, wrist bands, and 'welcome to the sisterhood' rites of passage BS, I think I'll hit someone--or start my own angry feminist organization. I don't like how the Komen Foundation has corporatized breast cancer and I think there's so much awareness now, people tune out the pink noise.

The color has become, it seems, synonymous with any woman who has any kind of cancer. My mom recently went through chemo for SKIN cancer and was given a pink band in her little 'encouragement' packet. I probably shouldn't post that though, because the Komen Foundation may sue the hospital that hands them out because pink is their brand... which makes me wonder if they've entertained the idea of suing P!nk because of her stage name? I'd like to see that, I'm sure she'd have some choice words for them.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
14. I think they STILL don't understand there's a backlash
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:47 PM
Feb 2012

They're getting too many strokes from their own rightwing followers, and they believe everything's just fine.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
16. The far RW is stunningly tone deaf and completely lacking in self-awareness
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
Feb 2012

moreso than I think I have ever seen. It is truly mind boggling to see these people and their shock SHOCK when their words and actions dare be called into question as potentially not expedient or infallible.

I truly don't think they saw this coming and their response to it has been stunning.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
17. In related news, Mitt Romney leads the Republican clown show...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:53 PM
Feb 2012

...and only because he's the only clown with enough money to hide his chainsaw.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
21. It's called "living in the moment" -- and it's the cornerstone of the Rethug pyschosis.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 07:13 PM
Feb 2012

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(link) Combine interpersonal exploitation ("tak(ing) advantage of others to achieve (one's) own ends" ) with a sense of entitlement ("unreasonable expectations of...favorable treatment or automatic compliance" ) and arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes, and you get people who are so egotistical it doesn't occur to them to contemplate the possible consequences of their actions. Rethugs are TOTALLY INCAPABLE of this kind of thinking:

"If I take a cookie without asking, Mommy will get mad."
"If I'm not home by midnight, my folks will ground me for a decade."
"I'll have to study all night if I have any hope of passing the exam."
"If I don't hand in this report before the deadline, I'll get fired."
"If I cheat on my partner, s/he will break up with me."

Remember when Tom Delay went on trial, and he got a judge removed from the case because he was a Democratic contributor? To his total surprise, the prosecutor struck back by having the replacement judge removed for being a Republican contributor! Rethugs are so morally tunnel-visioned on achieving their ends, they don't see anything else -- such as the fact that Penn State, which is under criminal investigation due to the Jerry Sandusky case, also qualifies for their new policy!


rocktivity

malaise

(268,967 posts)
26. They have no idea how much people are waking up and fighting back
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:22 PM
Feb 2012

I hope they are all wiped out come November.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
28. When you get worshipped as long and as hard as they have been
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 10:00 PM
Feb 2012

Eventually, you believe your own shit don't stink.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
31. Well, well, well ... Look who changed their mind.
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 01:49 PM
Feb 2012

I love it that the Internet can harness the outrage of liberals, and there's nothing that corporations and Republicans can do about that.

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