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NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:13 PM Feb 2012

Who is the enemy?

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/international/2012/February/international_February203.xml&section=international

US soldier shoots dead Afghan guard: official (AFP)

5 February 2012

Kabul — A US soldier shot dead an Afghan guard outside a military base in northern Afghanistan, apparently believing he was about to attack him, a local official said Sunday.

The incident on Thursday in Sari Pul province came less than a fortnight after an Afghan soldier shot dead four unarmed French troops at a base in the east of the country.

‘A US soldier has shot dead an Afghan guard three days ago’, Sari Pul provincial security chief Sayed Jahangir said on Sunday.

‘The American shot dead his Afghan colleague due to a misunderstanding. Apparently he thought the guard was trying to attack him.’

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Who is the enemy? (Original Post) NNN0LHI Feb 2012 OP
I can't imagine what it would be like to work side by side with.... Bonhomme Richard Feb 2012 #1
Get the hell out lsewpershad Feb 2012 #2
What good can come from this? Bring the troops home NOW! /nt think Feb 2012 #3
This could have been me... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #4
It'a a FUBAR war. We lost. Get out. Get over it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #5
So, everybody is a bit freaked out? nt bemildred Feb 2012 #6
The Military ... T S Justly Feb 2012 #7
That was a constant problem in Vietnam, as well. leveymg Feb 2012 #8
US policy was to terrify Vietnamese pretzel4gore Feb 2012 #9

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
1. I can't imagine what it would be like to work side by side with....
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:16 PM
Feb 2012

heavily armed people and not knowing who to trust behind you.

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
4. This could have been me...
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:25 PM
Feb 2012

I was downrange and travelling between FOBs in a civilian style vehicle. It was night and the power grid was crap so there was little or no light.

I approached a cross bar checkpoint and stopped at the same point I always did. Apparently it was was too close for the ANP (Afghan National Police) guard and he raised his weapon and pointed it square at my face and started yelling.

He wasn't acting within his SOP and I would have (technically) been within my rights to defend myself. As I was alone and he already had the drawn on me, this seemed like a poor choice. Not to mention the whole common sense thing of not killing someone if I didn't have to.

I talked/gestured him down and continued on but I think that if I had had some folks with me who were quicker on the trigger it could have gotten ugly in about 1/8 of a second.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. That was a constant problem in Vietnam, as well.
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:58 PM
Feb 2012

This looks like it's not ending any better for us. Perhaps, worse.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
9. US policy was to terrify Vietnamese
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 06:06 PM
Feb 2012

intentionally, facing inevitable defeat, the US spread horror stories (remember the huge crowds fleeing the 'communists' shown nightly in the pigmedia tv/news?) which cost untold number of lives.... when in fact most Vietnamese were either sympathisers or outright agents of the overthrow of imperial colonialism...and that includer the ARVN, who were in many cases actual VietMinh soldiers. Unfortunately, the big lie was kept up at huge public expense until Vietnam faded from popular memory- similar to how the geebush era has been quietly ignored since o'bama was put into WHouse (he was a black guy and, wow that really showed us how much things had changed, for better etc!)
lol

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