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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:19 PM Feb 2012

Story showing pro-car bias in the mainstream media: "Pedestrian Deaths Linked to Headphones"

Pedestrian deaths may have SOME link to bad drivers, but mostly, it's due to headphones.

>>The number of pedestrians seriously injured or killed while wearing headphones has tripled since 2004, a new study found.

Researchers from Baltimore scoured U.S. news archives and research databases for pedestrian injuries and deaths involving headphones over the last seven years. They found 116 cases — most involving men younger than 30 — rising from 16 in the year ending in 2005 to 47 in the year ending in 2011.

“The risks posed by the use of these devices by drivers are well documented, but little is known about the association between headphone use and pedestrian injury,” the authors reported in the journal Injury Prevention. “Although causal relationships cannot be proven, we speculate on implications for pedestrian safety.”<<

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/01/16/pedestrian-deaths-linked-to-headphones/

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Story showing pro-car bias in the mainstream media: "Pedestrian Deaths Linked to Headphones" (Original Post) closeupready Feb 2012 OP
I suppose we should all be grateful... hlthe2b Feb 2012 #1
What makes you think this is showing a bias? EOTE Feb 2012 #2
Oh please. TheWraith Feb 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Feb 2012 #18
It reads more like a valid indictment of inattentive pedestrians to me slackmaster Feb 2012 #4
Pro car? No, anti-distraction. boppers Feb 2012 #5
They must be pro-train also: Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #8
i know someone who died this way.. frylock Feb 2012 #6
I do too. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #13
I knew a guy from high school who tried to cross a railroad crossing in a car Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #16
So it's the fault of the headphones and not SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #7
So.... We have a pedestrian wondering about in the city with Lady Gaga blasting in their ears...... wandy Feb 2012 #9
Despite the "responsible for own self" replies Ron Green Feb 2012 #10
Exactly. Back in the Middle Ages, pedestrians always had the right of way. closeupready Feb 2012 #17
Pedestrians are not always in the right, though. Nevernose Feb 2012 #19
Right - the larger point here is, I find the inherent bias towards finding car drivers innocent closeupready Feb 2012 #20
The main difference: walking, you die , ; driving, someone else dies. libinnyandia Feb 2012 #11
And you know this to be false how? cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #12
People are probably driving the same as they did in 2004. RZM Feb 2012 #14
How about a bias twoard reality? Mopar151 Feb 2012 #15

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. I suppose we should all be grateful...
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:21 PM
Feb 2012

they didn't entitle the article: "Automobile damage claims on the rise linked to pedestrian fatalities while wearing headphones"....

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
2. What makes you think this is showing a bias?
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:23 PM
Feb 2012

Pedestrian deaths have been on the rise this past decade. Is it your guess that drivers are simply getting worse and worse? Isn't it rational to believe that the increase in the number of pedestrians using headphones has something to do with it?

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
3. Oh please.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:32 PM
Feb 2012

Unless you believe that somehow drivers are getting worse, or that drivers should be responsible for someone blundering out into the middle of traffic and being unable to stop, the only bias here is trying to find a way to blame cars for the fact that some people are acting stupidly.

A few days ago I watched somebody wander right through the middle of a four-lane thoroughfare in a 45 MPH zone--right through the middle, not in a cross walk--while blathering on his cell phone. If he got hit and killed because he was too wrapped up in his conversation to pay attention to his surroundings, is it the fault of the driver who couldn't stop fast enough, or the guy who ran out in front of him while being stupid?

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slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
4. It reads more like a valid indictment of inattentive pedestrians to me
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:35 PM
Feb 2012

The primary responsibility for an able-bodied individual's safety falls on the individual.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
5. Pro car? No, anti-distraction.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:40 PM
Feb 2012

“The risks posed by the use of these devices by drivers are well documented"

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
8. They must be pro-train also:
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 07:01 PM
Feb 2012
with more than half of the victims being struck by trains. In roughly one-third of the cases, horns or sirens sounded before the victim was hit, according to eyewitness reports.


frylock

(34,825 posts)
6. i know someone who died this way..
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:55 PM
Feb 2012

carelessly crossed the road while wearing headphones. husband yelling out at her to STOP, but she didn't hear him. driver was not at fault.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. I knew a guy from high school who tried to cross a railroad crossing in a car
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:59 PM
Feb 2012

while "jamming" to his 8-track tape player, and he apparently didn't hear the approaching train blowing its whistle.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
7. So it's the fault of the headphones and not
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:57 PM
Feb 2012

the person who didn't bother to look both ways before crossing the street?

wandy

(3,539 posts)
9. So.... We have a pedestrian wondering about in the city with Lady Gaga blasting in their ears......
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 07:01 PM
Feb 2012

And someone tooling around in a 4000 pound vehicle yakking away on their cell phone with a dog in their lap.....
And somehow you think this isn't going to end in tears?

Sorry. People wearing headphones in traffic or people driving while talking on the phone piss me off.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
10. Despite the "responsible for own self" replies
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 07:07 PM
Feb 2012

in this thread, I get what you're saying. It's the same with all the stories celebrating the return of the Auto Industry, and none questioning the wisdom of continuing a car-based society.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. Exactly. Back in the Middle Ages, pedestrians always had the right of way.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:12 AM
Feb 2012

In these modern times (and on a new version of DU, lol), I have to remember that we live in a more enlightened society, and that some people think those in control of vehicles bear no responsibility for killing pedestrians.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
19. Pedestrians are not always in the right, though.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:19 AM
Feb 2012

There are laws for them, too, and sometimes they break them. Pedestrians do not always have rot of way. They must be at a marked crosswalk or obvious intersection and they must wait for the light and they are expected to give automobiles time to stop.

What I'm saying is that sometimes the driver is at fault, and sometimes she isn't. Our society is far too heavily car-centered. We need to build cities upwards instead of out and make mass transportation systems in the US the norm, although even that might not cut down on pedestrian deaths -- ever tried walking across Rome or New York?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
20. Right - the larger point here is, I find the inherent bias towards finding car drivers innocent
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:00 AM
Feb 2012

where pedestrians are killed to be yet another sign our society is becoming more brutish and hard. You can hear it even in the responses here. Mind you, I don't take DU so seriously. Nonetheless, the responses are what they are. Some of them, based upon who is posting, are predictably right-wing. Others, such as yours, make the attempt to find the nuance here.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
14. People are probably driving the same as they did in 2004.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:36 PM
Feb 2012

I imagine the difference is the market increase in people who have mp3 players and smart phones and use them while walking around. I had neither an mp3 player or a cell phone in 2004 and I never used headphones while walking around. Now I have both and use headphones frequently.

Mopar151

(9,988 posts)
15. How about a bias twoard reality?
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 08:52 PM
Feb 2012

Effing idiots who are not paying attention are the problem - whether they need to hang up and drive, or touch down from the stratosphere now 'n then and see where they are. Not to mention the byciclists who think their karma will deflect a loaded cement mixer, or the fools who can't be bothered to steer while texting.
Yes, Americans drive too much, and often drive badly - but arguing that there is a "pro-car bias'' because too many idiots walked out into traffic isn't going to solve anything.

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