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rdking647

(5,113 posts)
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:01 PM May 2013

Obama should resign

but not now. Feb 1 2015
the GOP is going to try and block him from getting anything done legislatively anyways.
so heres my idea.
being the incumbent president has a lot of advantages in an election.
so Obama resigns on feb 1 2015 in favor of biden.
biden then goes into 2016 as the incumbent with all the advantages
under the constitution since Biden would have served less than 2 years of Obamas term he would still be eligible to serve 2 full terms.
so he could run in 2016 and 2024. and hopefully by then the dems would have such a demographic advantage we wouldnt have much to worry about from teh GOP after that


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Obama should resign (Original Post) rdking647 May 2013 OP
Doesn't work that way. Pab Sungenis May 2013 #1
I think the poster was talking about Biden being elected. BlueJazz May 2013 #4
i was talking about biden rdking647 May 2013 #5
Why should a President who is doing a really good job with the most shitty situation in our history kelliekat44 May 2013 #32
With all due respect, this is completely ridiculous. MrSlayer May 2013 #2
Not buying it. Rex May 2013 #3
Um, no. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #6
And then the repugs will UNBLOCK, elleng May 2013 #7
my ears are burning ;) unblock May 2013 #10
Succeed as in "get anything done". Not block Biden becoming President. (nt) jeff47 May 2013 #13
i don't understand. they can't prevent a president biden from having the trappings of office unblock May 2013 #16
Quite right BUT after he is in office elleng May 2013 #19
yeah, but that's the idea. i think it goes without saying that an 8th obama year would be more unblock May 2013 #37
AND the repugs wouldn't DREAM of UNBLOCKing elleng May 2013 #38
An idea. Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #8
So crazy it just might work! NYC_SKP May 2013 #9
the problem is that everyone in washington works in their own selfish interests. unblock May 2013 #11
That would be a no!!! MaineLinePhilly May 2013 #12
Biden will be 73 in 2016. nt Deep13 May 2013 #14
Unless the President develops a grave health problem, a resignation would winter is coming May 2013 #15
too obvious Enrique May 2013 #17
What on earth are you drinking or smoking? President Obama would never resign. Tx4obama May 2013 #18
Uh, NO. BlueDemKev May 2013 #20
Great Idea mick063 May 2013 #21
I guess everything else Obama has done so far doesn't really matter to you, then? Jamaal510 May 2013 #24
Thanks for pointing out the reality, Jamaal. Cha May 2013 #25
Please don't bring actual facts into the discussion Summer Hathaway May 2013 #26
No way - you don't feed the monster. CakeGrrl May 2013 #22
The DEMS should start acting like they won the last election or two. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #23
Agreed! The sooner the better! grahamhgreen May 2013 #27
Here is what would happen NWHarkness May 2013 #28
No. That is not a good idea. treestar May 2013 #29
Dumbass idea...nt SidDithers May 2013 #30
I always find it interesting when someone posts an outrageous OP and doesn't stay around.... brooklynite May 2013 #31
Obama will be President until January 2017, and there's not a damn thing the haters on either side alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #33
lol Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #34
Sorry, but that's not a clever idea at all. MineralMan May 2013 #35
No. Blue_Roses May 2013 #36
 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
1. Doesn't work that way.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:03 PM
May 2013

22nd Amendment says "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

Resignation or not, Obama has been elected twice and is barred from being elected again.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
32. Why should a President who is doing a really good job with the most shitty situation in our history
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:58 AM
May 2013

since the great depression resign?

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
2. With all due respect, this is completely ridiculous.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:03 PM
May 2013

And that's being kind.

Good luck with the lions.

elleng

(130,980 posts)
7. And then the repugs will UNBLOCK,
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:08 PM
May 2013

and permit JoeB to succeed just prior to his run for the Presidency???

unblock

(52,259 posts)
10. my ears are burning ;)
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:12 PM
May 2013

actually, the repugs have zero say in the matter. if obama resigns, biden would become president automatically. there's nothing republicans could possibly do to stop it, short of somehow amending the constitution prior to it happening.

unblock

(52,259 posts)
16. i don't understand. they can't prevent a president biden from having the trappings of office
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:34 PM
May 2013

sure, they could and would continue to say no to any and all democratic legislation and appointments. so what?

a president biden would still be able to wield executive power and would, by definition, appear presidential, avoiding the way that vice-presidents inevitably appear as "junior" or "number 2" or "cheerleader not leader".

of course it wouldn't make biden able to achieve anything legislatively obama couldn't, but it would almost undeniably help him win the election in 2016.

as i posted below, though, presidents simply don't think this way and would never resign something they fought so hard to get for a mere possibility of helping a fellow party member.

elleng

(130,980 posts)
19. Quite right BUT after he is in office
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:39 PM
May 2013

repugs CONTINUE to BLOCK (:hi Dem programs, only thing PrezO resignation would accomplish = PrezBiden running as incumbent.

unblock

(52,259 posts)
37. yeah, but that's the idea. i think it goes without saying that an 8th obama year would be more
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:59 AM
May 2013

effective than a first biden year, especially with biden getting the office without being explicitly voted in.

it would only be useful as a gamble, if it made the difference between biden winning in 2016 vs. not.

of course, if it did work, biden would be president for 5 or 9 years rather than 4 or 8, and that extra year might well make his overall tenure more effective.

though again, all this is idle speculation, Obama wouldn't dream of resigning.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
8. An idea.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:11 PM
May 2013

But President Obama is the type to keep going. He is not a "quitter" as some of the GOP history re-writers would class him as if he did this.

unblock

(52,259 posts)
11. the problem is that everyone in washington works in their own selfish interests.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:16 PM
May 2013

it only sometimes LOOKS like they work in their party's interest. in truth, politicians work in their party's interest only when it serves their own selfish interests.

so if obama resigns before his term is up, what's in it for him?

presidents have NEVER thought this way. this opportunity has come up time and again and so far the only president to have resigned was nixon, and he certainly didn't do it to give ford a leg up in the next election.









winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
15. Unless the President develops a grave health problem, a resignation would
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:32 PM
May 2013

be endlessly trumpeted as an admission of guilt.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
18. What on earth are you drinking or smoking? President Obama would never resign.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:38 PM
May 2013

I want to see him to serve his full eight years.

Obama is NOT Palin.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
20. Uh, NO.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:35 AM
May 2013

First off, if Obama were to resign it would have a very negative effect on the Democratic Party and all of our accomplishments since 2009. Second, Biden will be far too old to serve two terms beginning in 2017.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
21. Great Idea
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:44 AM
May 2013

Sure I contributed to his campaign and voted for him, but I have never felt more betrayed.

Chained CPI. Appointing billionaires to be the watchdog over billionaires. Accelerating trade agreements that grow our trade deficit and send jobs overseas.

Get any Democrat in there over Obama. I'll take Biden in a heartbeat over Obama.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. I guess everything else Obama has done so far doesn't really matter to you, then?
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:22 AM
May 2013
http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html
Obama being the 1st president to endorse gay marriage? Fair Pay Act? Auto bailout? Tax cut extension for lower-class Americans? Health care reform? Unemployment and the deficit lowering? Two wars being drawn down and no major terrorist attacks?

It's all about CPI. CPI. CPI...never mind that it wasn't his ideal budget plan, and that it has no chance of passing anyway; the Republicans don't want to see top taxes increased or tobacco tax hikes towards universal pre-school. And for someone who has "betrayed" the Left and is supposedly eager to eliminate entitlements, what has been taking him so freaking long to do it? He has had an opposition that is more than happy to help him with that.
I can't believe that even after all that has been accomplished by Obama since 2009 in spite of obstruction, you're still willing to toss him to the wolves like that over something that hasn't even been ENACTED and has zero chance of passing. That is very short-sighted of you.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
25. Thanks for pointing out the reality, Jamaal.
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:43 AM
May 2013

Just because somebody gets their feelings hurt and feels personally "betrayed" doesn't mean the whole country is going to hell just to make them feel better.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
22. No way - you don't feed the monster.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:48 AM
May 2013

The GOP doesn't like having a black president? So the black president should resign and send the message that no else of color should try running because the GOP won't work with them.

Bullshit.

The obstructionists need to be voted out, not placated.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
23. The DEMS should start acting like they won the last election or two.
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:06 AM
May 2013

But you know they won't. Might make a Teabagger sad.

NWHarkness

(3,290 posts)
28. Here is what would happen
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:12 AM
May 2013

Republicans would block any nomination to fill the vacant Vice-Presidency. They would then try to impeach Biden. If they succeeded at impeachment, the Presidency would pass to the Speaker of the House, John Boehner.

You need a better plan, my friend.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. No. That is not a good idea.
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:20 AM
May 2013

Why would you want to see that? Biden would be better off running as the most recent VP. And there is no way we want the first black president to resign. Appalling that you'd want that (and you probably do).

brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
31. I always find it interesting when someone posts an outrageous OP and doesn't stay around....
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:55 AM
May 2013

...to respond to the replies.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
33. Obama will be President until January 2017, and there's not a damn thing the haters on either side
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:06 AM
May 2013

can do about it.

I laugh at them every day that Obama holds office.

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