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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Wed May 22, 2013, 07:22 AM May 2013

IRS Official Lois Lerner Will Plead The 5th Amendment

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/irs-official-lois-lerner-will-plead-5th-amendment

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The official in charge of the exempt organizations division at center of the targeting scandal plaguing the Internal Revenue Service plans to invoke the Fifth Amendment, refusing to testify before a House oversight hearing this week.

“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” an attorney for Lois Lerner told committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) in a letter obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.

Since she intends not to answer questions, the letter requests Lerner be exempt from the Wednesday hearing because her appearance would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.”

Lerner initially revealed during a Q&A session in Washington that Internal Revenue Service agents employed at the Cincinnati branch office improperly scrutinized conservative non-profit groups for additional reviews from 2010 to 2012. Lerner only recently disclosed that the question was planted, however.
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IRS Official Lois Lerner Will Plead The 5th Amendment (Original Post) kentuck May 2013 OP
if she has committed no crime then she cannot self-incriminate ProdigalJunkMail May 2013 #1
She was probably the mid-level bureaucrat that ordered the targeting ? kentuck May 2013 #2
She was targeted by IRS officials who.. ananda May 2013 #3
Did she know about the planted question? kentuck May 2013 #4
I thought she planted the question marshall May 2013 #5
She called someone and asked them to ask a particular question. onpatrol98 May 2013 #6
And this: kentuck May 2013 #7
She was the IRS official who planted the question. pintobean May 2013 #9
This is about things she told Congress before the IG report was released. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #8

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
1. if she has committed no crime then she cannot self-incriminate
Wed May 22, 2013, 07:45 AM
May 2013

she obviously knows she did something that will result in prosecution...

sP

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
2. She was probably the mid-level bureaucrat that ordered the targeting ?
Wed May 22, 2013, 07:58 AM
May 2013

But, personally, I doubt that it was done for political reasons. Tea Partiers are just naturally paranoid - much like their 2nd Amendment brethren.

ananda

(28,885 posts)
3. She was targeted by IRS officials who..
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:00 AM
May 2013

.. planted a question for her in the audience.

Now then. How much does this whole set up and blame game stink?

Let me count the ways.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
5. I thought she planted the question
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:16 AM
May 2013

I don't know what outcome she expected, but this surely isn't it. Somebody must have been putting the squeeze on her and she flailed out in haste. It'll all come out in the was, and probably make a terrific movie.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
6. She called someone and asked them to ask a particular question.
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:19 AM
May 2013

She called someone and asked them to ask a particular question. Innocent bystander, she isn't. But, since she wasn't the one that came up with the questions sent out to groups, it does make you wonder what question is she not wanting to answer.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
7. And this:
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:20 AM
May 2013

"Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller, who was asked to step down following the controversy, said it was his idea to disclose the information in such a manner.

"I will take responsibility for that," Miller told a congressional hearing on Tuesday. "The entire thing was an incredibly bad idea."

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Think money and politics. Think Karl Rove and American Crossroads. Think of abuse of the 501(c)4 regulation. Think of ways to level the playing field for the next election?

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
9. She was the IRS official who planted the question.
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:22 AM
May 2013
Celia Roady, a prominent tax lawyer in the firm of Morgan Lewis, said she was called personally by Lois Lerner, the IRS head of the tax exempt division, on May 9.

"I received a call from Lois Lerner, who told me that she wanted to address an issue after her prepared remarks at the [American Bar Association] Tax Section's Exempt Organizations Committee Meeting, and asked if I would pose a question to her after her remarks," Roady said in a statement to U.S. News and World Report. "I agreed to do so, and she then gave me the question that I asked at the meeting the next day. We had no discussion thereafter on the topic of the question, nor had we spoken about any of this before I received her call. She did not tell me, and I did not know, how she would answer the question."

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/17/exclusive-woman-who-asked-irss-lois-lerner-scandal-breaking-question-details-plant

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
8. This is about things she told Congress before the IG report was released.
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:21 AM
May 2013

She might be up for perjury charges. I've seen no indication that she's hiding involvement from the White House. Her superiors are talking freely, after all. We're supposed to believe Obama was talking to Ms. Lerner and not Schulman or Miller? Please.

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