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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho did you support and VOTE for President in 1992? Primary/General
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the major choices in 1992 were
Bill Clinton
Jerry Brown
Paul Tsongas
Bob Kerrey
Tom Harkin
(four who didn't ever enter the race but were talked about prior)
Mario Cuomo
Bill Bradley
Ted Kennedy
Jesse Jackson
vs.
George Herbert Walker Bush (41) running for reelection
vs.
Ross Perot
BainsBane
(53,141 posts)I don't recall if I voted in the primary.
TexasTowelie
(113,007 posts)but I'm not certain if he was still in the primary at that point in Texas. I voted for Clinton in the general election.
salin
(48,955 posts)infrastructure. Sounded wise in 1992.
Sadly, he wouldn't have lived through his first term. His cancer reemerged.
House of Roberts
(5,216 posts)I voted for Jerry Brown, because he dated Linda Ronstadt.
I voted Clinton in the general.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I knew we had a winner.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)(I voted for Clinton in my high school mock election that year)
krispos42
(49,445 posts)My first vote was in the 1994 midterms.
Shit, I just realized I voted for Lieberman 3 times!
Twice as senator, once as veep. Ick.
boilerbabe
(2,214 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)final tally
Clinton - (Republican lite) - 44,909,806
Bush - (Republican) - 39,104,550
Perot - (3rd "party" conservative billionaire) - 19,743,821
Andre Marrou - (libertarian) - 290,087
James Bo Gritz - (America First) - 106,152
Lenore Fuliani - (new alliance) - 73,622
Howard Phillips - (US taxpayers) - 43,369
Dr. John Hagelin - (natural law) - 38,595
Ron Daniels - (Peace and Freedom) - 27,949
Lyndon LaRouche (economic recovery) - 26,289
James Warren (socialist workers) - 23,533 * (that's me, one of the few and the proud, throwing away my protest vote)
write ins - 12,399
Drew Bradford - (independent) - 4,749
Jack Herer - (grassroots) - 3,875
J . Quin Brisben - (socialist) 3,058
Helen Halyard - (workers league) 3,050
none of the above - 2,537
John Yiamouyiannis - (take back America (from the immigrants with funny names?)) - 2,199
Ehlers - (independent) - 1,149
Earl Dodge - (prohibition) - 961
Jim Boren - (Apathy) - 956 (why did they bother?)
Hem - (Third Party) (and no, his/her running mate was NOT Haw, much to my regret) - 405
Isabell Masters (Looking Back) - 349
Smith (American) (again, running mate was NOT Wesson) - 292
Gloria LaRiva (workers world) - 181 (it's a small world after all)
total (for non-libertarian) - 363,270
sakabatou
(42,243 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)union_maid
(3,502 posts)Voted for Clinton in the GE. Early on I liked Bradley very much. During the primaries I favored Harkin.
JustAnotherGen
(32,164 posts)Then switched to Clinton.
Voted for Clinton too.
And campaigned for him.
That was the first election I could vote in.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I did not think much of Clinton, honestly, but voted for him anyway in the general election because I vowed to vote for any reasonable Democratic candidate after enduring 12 years of GHWB and Reaganism.
Voted for him in '94 as well but had to hold my nose to do so.
rucky
(35,211 posts)in Dallas. Right out of college. I still think he would make a great president and it's great to see him so successful (again) as Governor.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)While the net worth of the average American family declined, the Forbes 400 richest families in America saw their collective wealth increase by 300%! Did any other American families see their net worth triple? Even double?
However, the stunning gains by the very rich did not result from the success of hard work or as a reward earned by expanding the nation's prosperity to the benefit of all.
The triumph of the forces of special privilege with its devastating consequences to the entire nation, was engineered with the complicity of Washington's entrenched politicians, Democrat and Republican alike.
Our democratic system has been the object of a hostile takeover engineered by a confederacy of corruption, careerism and campaign consulting.
And money has been the lubricant greasing the deal. Incredible sums--literally hundreds of millions of dollars--from political action committees (PACs), lobbyists, and wealthy patrons have flooded into the campaign war chests of Washington's entrenched political elite--Democrats and Republicans alike.
Seeking to secure careers of unlimited tenure, these politicians use this cash to fuel monstrous campaigns. Captained by political consultants, these campaigns are designed to crush any challenge to their power.
And, of course, the forces of greed are rewarded richly for the campaign contributions. Unjust tax breaks are only one form of acknowledgement. Agreeing to look the other way, these politicians opened the door to the plunder of Savings and Loans and a merger mania which gutted some of our most respected companies.
The insatiable appetite for campaign dollars has turned the government into a stop and shop for every conceivable greedy and narrow interest.
The quid pro quo could not be more straightforward. The legality of the barter cannot mask its inherent corruptness. Nor can any degree of dissembling obscure the truth that this bargain has been executed--almost without exception--to the detriment of the national interest and at the expense of the American people.
The cost of this corruption has been staggering. Can it be a coincidence that our cities became engulfed in a flood of rising crime and rampaging drugs exactly when the poorest among us were experiencing drastic reductions in their standard of living?
Together, private greed and corrupt power have launched a deadly assault on our common values.
To rationalize greed, they championed materialism and self-interest over moral responsibility and community. "What is in it for me?" To protect their power they inject poisons into the body politic; appeals to fear and selfishness replace calls to hope and sacrifice.
More: http://www.4president.org/speeches/jerrybrown1992announcement.htm
He was ahead of his time then and now.
tridim
(45,358 posts)She looked directly at it several times during her speech and she didn't look pleased.
I ended up supporting Bill though.
tsuki
(11,994 posts)George Gently
(88 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,311 posts)Last edited Sun May 26, 2013, 10:08 AM - Edit history (1)
I was 9 at the time.
I was 15 days too young to vote in 2000. Im honestly glad I missed the vote because I was a right wing libertarian at the time. Though it took only one year of Bush to piss me off at him and got me moving to the left. By 2002 I was voting straight democrat (though I did vote for libertarians when there were no democrats running...which is quite often in Texas.) so I guess I was a right of center democrat at that time.
2004 was my first presidential election. Supported Dean and voted for him in the primary despite his campaign being dead at that time. I still get angry when I think of how the MSM killed his campaign. Voted For Kerry in general...I still think dean would have beaten Double Dumb in the General. Went Green if no dems (this happens a surprising number of times honestly) and libertarain should there be no greens or dems.
2008 I was for Obama in the primary and vote straight democrat. Same in 2012. Went Green if no dems (I swear there are more greens on the ballot in texas than there are dems!) and libertarian should there be no greens or dems.
2016 I will PROBABLY be supporting either Biden or Hillary if they run. I love both of them~!
EDIT: MEANT beat double dumb in the General. Sorry!!!
karynnj
(59,522 posts)The FACT that he was suppose to win Iowa - or come a close second to Gephardt AND he lost with 18% to Kerry's 38% was the real cause. That was in spite of Kerry getting far less media support and having far less money in Iowa. The ONLY media - other than an Atlantic Monthly excerpt of Tour of Duty - that Kerry got in late 2003 was speculation of whether he would drop out before Iowa, after Iowa or after NH. Meanwhile, Dean had a lot of the most supportive and some of the most critical coverage because he was the one acknowledged as the front runner.
Why he lost was more that he and Gephardt engaged in murder/suicide negative ads that hurt BOTH of them - each being hurt more by the fact that people said they were repulsed by the negativity of the ads. Blame Trippi or whomever was involved in the decision to run those ads. He was also hurt according to some from Iowa by not being that impressive speaking one to one (or in small groups) with Iowans.
Kerry won precisely because he was very good winning over small groups of people with whom he would stay to answer any question they had. In addition, the margin of his win was likely helped by the event a few days before the primary where the man he saved in Vietnam came to his event - winning in my mind forever - the campaign event that most likely would have been at home in a 1940s (Kappra like) movie.
Iowa is rarely about the MSM. In fact, by its very nature, it often overturns the MSM narrative. This happened in both 2004 and 2008. In 2008, it changed the story from Hillary is the inevitable nominee (and President) to Obama might just do this!
As to Dean winning the general election (which I assume is what you mean), Kerry was by far the stronger candidate. Kerry because of his debates, especially the first on foreign policy, was able to make it a very close race - that would been a major upset had there been enough voting machines in Ohio in Democratic strongholds. If your point is that Dean could have won more of the left - in fact, the left voted for Kerry. More than 9 million more people voted for Kerry than had voted for Gore. The problem - other than cheating and media bias - was that in 2004 the country was not ready for a Presidential nominee who could already foresee a time when the war on terror would be over. Note that this week, we saw the Republicans still aren't -- and no one in the media has mentioned how Obama's speech actually echoes some of Kerry's 2004 comments in the Matt Bai NYT magazine article that spoke of exactly the situation Obama says we are in now. Then the idea that terrorism would be fought by international law enforcement and intelligence for the most part sounded - which should have been seen as a comforting, optimistic future was not believed by enough people as a future goal. This in spite of how terrible the alternative - a permanent state of fear of terrorism was.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)when the corporate media votes against a particular candidate, that person usually loses.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)The expected winner lost by 20 percentage points to someone who was not suppose to win. The two stories - why the one guy won and what went wrong in the other campaign (s if you add Gephardts.) The latter story - as is usually the case - would have taken the form of concatenating every bad moment of the Dean campaign together to explain the loss. That itself would have hurt. In fact, a case can be made that the media spent at least as much time on the scream non story than the impressive Kerry win. (Compare to 2008 where everything was Obama)
As to the rest of the election, in NH, it is no surprise that Kerry's surprise win gave him momentum in NH. Dean's numbers did not fall - but Kerry got the bulk of the undecideds and most of the already imploding Clark voters - many of whom had been Dean people who went to Clark. That would likely have happened even with out the scream.
Then Dean opted not to compete in the next group of contests - because he was out of money and he thought the states were unfriendly to a New Englander. His plan was to work on the set of states after that. Part of what had happened was that Trippi wasted far too much money on NH and Iowa. The Dean campaign FAR outspent everyone else. The strategy might have worked if Clark and Edwards divided the 7 states mostly South/southwest/rural states - leading to no clear winner. However Kerry won DE, NM,ND, AZ, and MO - and Edwards won SC and Clark won OK, where he and Edwards got 30% each and Kerry 27%. The media called this a victory for Kerry and Edwards - when it actually was the point where it was obvious that Kerry was going to be the nominee. Kerry's win was one of the smoothest I have seen for anyone not a VP for an open seat.
SharonAnn
(13,785 posts)After Dean said in an interview that he would break up the media monopolies, they went after him big time.
Guess their bosses didn't want their media monopolies to be broken up.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)You can go back and look at the main magazines and papers. There were very few articles pushing Kerry prior to Iowa. I looked after the election because I was stunned by people rewriting what happened. I have found just two major pieces on Kerry - both from less mainstream sources. One, Atlantic Monthly had an excerpt from Tour of Duty - which was not really something speaking of Kerry 2003. The other was a small (non cover) article in New York magazine, which was largely positive.
This was NOTHING compared to giving Dean three major covers in late August 2003 - right before labor day. It is true that in addition to positive articles, there were some - especially in very late 2003 that addressed what they called Dean's anger. However, this is typical treatment for the front runner and he was clearly considered the front runner in fall 2003.
However, that treatment was far better than what Kerry got - which was basically ignored and for whom the main MSM question was when he would drop out. The idea that he was a media favorite is laughable - he NEVER was for his entire political career. Consider that even when he announced at a press conference that he was entering the hospital for cancer treatment - and gave the first question to the hometown Boston Globe, Glen Johnson took the time to accuse Kerry of lying to him when he did not tell him a week or so earlier when Johnson asked him why he looked so bad. It is hard to imagine the media treating any politician worse at a time like that - and Kerry had always been honest with the media.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)power of the corporate media to decide elections.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...was tht he was trying to rally and encourage the young college kids that worked for him. The media, however, ran it to death in their race to be the most "faux news"ish in that election. YUCK!
PEACE!
LostOne4Ever
(9,311 posts)The race had barely just started and if you had believed the hype just a few months before Dean should have been in the single digits. The media had pretty much declared Kerry the winner before even a single vote had been cast. Then Dean came in with his fund raising and all of the sudden they changed their tune.
Iowa is only the first contest but after the scream (that was played over 663 times in the four days following the contest) they had convinced America he was a mad man. That video was all over the place with commentators more or less saying he had lost it. His campaign imploded after that.
I believe that had they not used that one video Dean could have made a comeback. I still don't see what was so bad about that video? Someone being passionate about their country?
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I disagree. Kerry was boring and uninspiring . He lost the popular vote by over 2 million. No I don't mean that dean would have picked up votes on the "left" I mean he would have picked up votes from the middle from being more Charismatic. Kerry was a good debater, but he couldn't inspire a turnip. If debates and facts could win this country over the 2000 election would have went for Gore overwhelmingly. The left wanted bush GONE. They would have gone for any of that years nominees. The middle, the undecideds? They were more interested in who would be more fun to have a beer with than with who was best to run the country.
That is what i meant and what I believe. Feel free to disagree but I don't see the point in debating politics that are 9years old and to which we can change nothing.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)His media was all speculation on when he would drop out - before Iowa, after Iowa, or after NH. Dean and Gephardt were supposed to win according to the media. Go look up period magazines.
If Dean were so much more charismatic, why did he get just 18% in Iowa BEFORE the scream. Not to mention, NH already knew him and Kerry well. Kerry is very inspiring and he would never have had a political career if he weren't. The fact is that using just his words, he actually shifted the perception of Vietnam in 1971 - and Nixon was right when he spoke of Kerry as the only protester he feared. He also won both the LT Governor and Senate slots against the media and party favorites. In both cases, by retail politics.
There were polls that looked at how the candidates would do in the general election. For Dean, the polls are mainly from the end of 2003 when he was the front runner. He did significantly WORSE than "generic Democrat". Kerry, was polled after he won Iowa - and he did far better than "generic Democrat". This is the fairest way that I could compare them.
I do think the debates mattered, because the only time Kerry was seen without a media filter that hid or distorted him was the debates and his convention. There is NO doubt in my mind that the media would have been just as tough on any Democrat. Dean was ok in the debates, but the main issue was national security and foreign policy and those are and were Kerry strengths.
As to not arguing 9 year old things - maybe you should not make outrageous comments about things that happened 9 years ago - as they may be countered by others who disagree.
LostOne4Ever
(9,311 posts)The Media had declared Kerry the heir apparent before anyone had even heard of Dean.
Why did Kerry win that one election? Well for one it was only the first election of a tiny part of the country. Two, better campaigning by Kerry in Iowa of convincing Liberals (who were desperate to get rid of bush) that Kerry had a better chance of beating bush due to him being a war hero and having more foreign policy experience.
If Kerry was so scary to Nixon (...in 1971), so inspiring, and had so much political skill and experience why did he lose the popular vote to double dumb by ~2million votes? Why did Dean out raise him? Oh some polls said so? Polls by the same people who said Dean would trounce him in Iowa? Yeah right
Kerry trounced bush in the debates and he still lost. The party was too focused on looking good on foreign policy and not enough about relating to the common voter. We did not need to focus that much on Foreign policy because by then the war was already unpopular. So he trounced Bush on the debates, was a war hero vs a deserter, had tons of foreign experience, the war had turned against bush, democrats took back congress, and yet he still lost the popular vote. Not only that, but Bush won by a plurality of the vote?
Why? He had everything going for him, why? He was boring. His speeches were boring, the debates were boring. He was boring.
The media did their best to make Dean (Mr Gun Rights) look like a far leftist. We never had a chance to see how he would have done in the actual general election, but the one thing Dean was not, was boring (the stupid video proves this). We did not need loads of foreign policy experience because the american public already had turned against the Bush Foreign policy.
Not to mention that Dean had many things going for him that usually won general elections. He had a popular grass roots campaign and was a popular Governor (Governors have been rather successful in modern elections), and above all else he did not have a record on the Iraq war to explain away.
As to not arguing 9 year old things - maybe you should not make outrageous comments about things that happened 9 years ago - as they may be countered by others who disagree.
Maybe you shouldn't look for fights? This was a thread on the positions we took on the 1992 election and I was explaining my voting record and opinions.
And what in the world is outrageous about
I still get angry when I think of how the MSM killed his campaign.
and
I still think dean would have beaten Double Dumb in the General.
Both of these are opinions, shared by many democrats, and unless you are omniscient you have no way to prove or disprove.
Definitely looking for a fight.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)1) The Democrats did NOT take back either house of Congress in 2004 - that was 2006.
2) Nothing I said was "outrageous" The fact is that Dean's campaign was nowhere near as good as it could have been. Trippi absolutely mismanaged it - leading to him having no money at a point where given what he raised he should have been ok.
In addition, he did not run as the former moderate Democrat from Vermont. He ran as the 2004 Trippi candidate - making some of the same angry charges against the others that the 2008 Trippi candidate (Edwards) did. In 2004 - unlike almost any other year, the voting issues were national security and foreign policy. Exit polls showed that Kerry was preferred on all the domestic issues, while he lost the national security issue. It is very hard to see Dean doing better.
I like Dean. I wanted either him or Kerry to win - and feared the nomination would go to someone I would have been unenthusiastic about. I think many disappointed Dean people never bothered to look at Kerry's history or even what he was running on. It is too bad as he was to the left of any nominee for decades - including Obama after him.
You might want to consider why Dean did not make an effort in DE, MO, SC, OK, NM, AZ, and ND after losing Iowa and NH to Kerry. His campaign announced he was not actively contesting them. I would argue that even with Kerry winning NH and Iowa, he could easily have been stopped. However, after he won 5 of those seven states - making him the winner in 9 out of 11, he was pretty unstoppable.
I really do not see why you feel the need to take away the accomplishment of running a very good nomination fight from Kerry. This is something he won through hard work and retail politics. No one gave it do him.
dsc
(52,187 posts)Yes, his debate performances and Bush's unpopularity made it a close race, but the fact is no one who voted for that war was going to win, because our only shot against Bush was the war going to the toilet which it did. I do agree that what did in Dean wasn't the media but it was the finding of Saddam coupled with the ads. Finding Saddam made Democratic primary voters scared to nominate a candidate who opposed the war.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)The fact is that Kerry got the antiwar vote - in fact, he got the anti-war vote in the primaries! The fact is that in November 2004, a large majority of people did NOT think the war was going badly and the anti-war segment was less than 50 percent.
The fact is that Kerry was seen as against the war by most of the country. I know that he actually LOST some votes by his constant comment that this was not a war of last resort - which was HIS basis for saying that Bush lied the country to war. Bush did NOT do everything that could have done diplomatically - as he promised and he did not let the inspectors finish their work. I am from a large Catholic family - and the WWII generation hated that what he was saying was that the US was fighting an unjust war.
The fact is that Dean in 2002 was at least as aggressive in his comments as to what to do than Kerry - the difference was that he was not in Congress and thus did not have to vote. He DID say that he would have voted for Biden/Lugar the SFRC alternative that was not voted on - which Kerry worked on and preferred as well. However, no matter what resolution would have passed, Bush would have taken the country to war.
dsc
(52,187 posts)making it impossible to produce an anti war majority, which is what we needed to have. I don't know if Dean would have produced it or not, but he was our only shot at doing so since he could legitimately trash the war.
karynnj
(59,522 posts)As I pointed out, Kerry likely took that issue to the line - as I know swing voters who still hold his comments against him - even though they agree now the war was a mistake. The fact is that "trashing a war" we are in is going to be extremely unpopular. Not to mention Wrong war, wrong time, wrong place is pretty clear - as was listing all the things Bush did wrong. (In fact, there was NOTHING Dean said that was stronger.)
In fact, the fact that Kerry gave Bush the authority trusting him to avoid war if possible almost gave him MORE ability to speak against it - as it showed he had taken the situation seriously and had been willing to give the President the support Bush said he needed to get the UN behind him and to get invasive sanctions. Not to mention, there was at least one Dean statement that would have been twisted to say that he would have gone in too - just like Bush. (He wouldn't have - nor would Kerry and, for the most part, people knew this in both of their cases.) In fact, one focus group in Ohio after the election showed that one large group of swing voters actually voted against Kerry because, terrorized as they were, they were concerned that with his basic morality, he would not do some of things Bush and Cheney would do "that kept us safe" but were immoral.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)long before it got to my state (Wisconsin).
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I'm 5 of 11 in the general elections now. Carter, Clinton(2), Obama(2)
The other times I got stuck with Nixon, Reagan, Bush and bush.
RB TexLa
(17,003 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I was young and clueless about politics. I voted the way my dad wanted me to.
I didn't really become politically aware until a few years later.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Voted for Bill Clinton for President.
-Laelth
handmade34
(22,759 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Kath1
(4,309 posts)and voted for Bill Clinton. And I hope to vote for another Clinton in 2016!
onpatrol98
(1,989 posts)I voted for Clinton in 92. And, then again for him the 2nd term. Although, for me, the shine was gone immediately afterwards.
emulatorloo
(44,302 posts)MineralMan
(146,371 posts)Freddie
(9,300 posts)Don't think I voted in the primaries that year, by the time it got to PA it was pretty much decided (usually the case). Was first impressed by the Big Dog because he plays the sax and so do I.
Glorfindel
(9,756 posts)n/t
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Flashmann
(2,140 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Held my nose and voted for Clinton in the GE, knew he'd be big trouble.
salin
(48,955 posts)instead in that era we got NAFTA. (I voted for Tsongas).
pipoman
(16,038 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)JHB
(37,170 posts)...for the nomination.
Voted for Clinton in the general.
life long demo
(1,113 posts)Yea!
Iggo
(47,640 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)I was twenty years old at the time. Boy, was I ever a sucker. The guy said repeatedly-- right there on the campaign trail-- that he was a bigger fiscal conservative than his opponent, but all I saw was the "D".
ananda
(28,950 posts)..
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)and seeing what he has accomplished here in CA makes it clear it was the right choice.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)He was out before the NJ Primary, so I voted for Brown.
Supported Clinton in the general.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)I'm an Iowan and supported our home guy, Senator Tom Harkin but voted for Bill Clinton in the general election. I have never voted for a repuke in my entire life, including a family friend who ran for County Supervisor. And I think I can safely say that I never will.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)the country ... I was watching the jobs in hi-tech fly past me out of the country, especially programming in my company.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Bonx
(2,091 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)General only. And I've voted in every general election and most primaries ever since. I wasn't political until I saw Cheney doing what I essentially saw as jacking off on national tv while talking about "smart bombs". And then there was the thin-skinned, sniveling Bush. I couldn't bear the thought of him having another term. And I thought Clinton would make a good President from all I'd heard and seen from the man.
Historic NY
(37,471 posts)the list of should or could have been contenders faded fairly early on in the face of Clinton overcoming his daliances that dropped him 20 points in a week.
lastlib
(23,474 posts)Tom Harkin would've been my 2nd choice.....
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)voted for Clinton in the general.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I did a protest vote and wrote in something silly, but I don't remember what.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)In New Hampshire. Clinton in the general. I remember Harkin was all for labor, and remember seeing him in a construction ditch with a shovel in his hand.
olddots
(10,237 posts)n.t.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I was 12. I liked Tsongas.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...although I also liked Bob Kerrey.
pEACE!
LuvNewcastle
(16,878 posts)Tikki
(14,573 posts)that election.
Having been through 5 prior elections or so, had my doubts that boosh could pull this off and told the class.
Thought the TA might ding me, he seemed a bit bitter, but he just said the people have spoken.
Bill Clinton was a great President.
Tikki
ps. I think Jerry Brown would have been an outstanding President, also.
calimary
(81,712 posts)Flirted with Jerry Brown and Ted Kennedy and Mario Cuomo, but went steady with Clinton.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Harkin.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)but i know i voted clinton in the mock election at school
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Doc_Technical
(3,532 posts)n/t
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I was registered as an Independent since 1972 but joined the Democratic Party in 1992 so I could vote for Tsongas in the Kansas caucus. I liked what he as saying about the deficit.
When Clinton became the nominee, I voted for him.
Been in the Party ever since...
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)But I voted for Clinton in the fall.
One of the things Clinton used to say repeatedly during his campaign speeches was that it was cheaper to send someone to college for 4 years than to send that person to prison for 4 years.
That is still very much so true today as well.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)sarisataka
(19,060 posts)do I pass?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Never regretted it and I'm going to vote for another one in 2016 and if Chelsey ever runs I'll vote for another Clinton. So there!
salin
(48,955 posts)Tsongas got out of the race the next day (he needed to win in one of the states that day: Illinois, Ohio or Michigan) and he didn't. He wasn't in the race very long.
Greybnk48
(10,188 posts)But my first choice whenever he was actually running was Teddy Kennedy.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Perot and his charts were great I thought. I was even going to work for his campaign. I had never heard of Bill Clinton who already had drama from the get go. But as time went by, I saw the light, and voted for Clinton. Then came the debates, and I was already for Clinton/Gore by then. But Perot's pick for VP Stockdale and his "Who am I and why am I here" was the beginning to the end of Perot, along with Phil Hartman's portrayal of Stockdale, and Dana Carvey as Perot.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)it was my 1st presidential election and I paid it a lot of attention.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I wasn't eligible to vote in the primary, being an independent leftist. I voted for Clinton in the GE, even though I wasn't real comfortable with him. My first introduction to him was on 60 minutes; an episode talking about his past infidelities where Hillary said she wasn't "standing by her man" while she stood by her man.
I pegged him as a cheater. To me, that meant that: 1. He wouldn't stop cheating, despite a public "reform," and 2. It made him likely to cheat in other areas as well.
The desperation to oust Bush I and put the Reagan revolution and all associated with it behind us compelled me to vote for him anyway; there wasn't another good choice.
My misgivings turned out to be solid; Clinton brought the neoliberal DLC to power.
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)most ruthless campaign manager Democrats had ever produced, James Carville. Once in a while, I'm correct.
Raine
(30,565 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)elleng
(131,718 posts)May have voted for Clinton in General but as lived in DC, didn't really matter. May have done so to demonstrate civic responsibility to daughters, but was really pissed at Clinton for what he did to/said about Tsongas during primary process.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)To this day I remain a supporter, after the following of George W he looks better all the time.
madinmaryland
(64,934 posts)word salad from the Clenis.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)when I was in college. 1992 was the first presidential election in which I was not a kid anymore. As a junior in high school, I was more aware. I disliked the Republicans even though my parents were and still are die hard conservatives. I was for anyone that could beat Poppy Bush, and Clinton did (with help from old Ross Perot).
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)dembotoz
(16,886 posts)mokawanis
(4,455 posts)kaiden
(1,314 posts)Then Clinton all the way--phone banking, walking neighborhoods, etc.
northoftheborder
(7,576 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)My father was big on Bush.
My Mother would never talk about who she would vote for. Instead she would ask me what I though of what was being talked about. What sounded right to me.
I listened to the speeches and the debts. I could not understand what my father saw in Bush, and I asked him why? He said because he was moral. And I asked about some of the policies that sounded as if they would hurt us since we were poor. He said that they would only hurt those that did not work hard enough.
He did not see that they were going to hurt us, that it did not matter how hard you worked. Heck with what I saw and read, the more you worked, if you made under a certain amount ( a lot like now) you paid even more. And, just like now, the republicans in general wanted to hurt the programs that would help people.
When I pointed this out to him, at 14 mind you, he was pissed. He said I needed to check my moral compass and remember that I am a woman. I need focus on a good factory job and finding a good, moral man to tell me the right way to vote.
So I went to Mom to ask about what I was just told. She said what do I feel about what he said. I said he was warped. She smiled and said for me to do whatever felt right. If following such an idea as my father put out felt right, then do it. However since I didn't, then not going that way was right.
She told me that to truly follow ones own compass was to first see that I was the one to read it. No one could say what the right way was. They could not read it for me, nor could they make the direction what they wanted. True happiness came from following it, and not let others tell me otherwise.
So as the years went by I found myself on the Liberal side of the issues, to the chagrin of my father. When I went to register to vote, my father took me. He was standing there when I was asked about a party, I said Democrat. He made me walk home.
For me the 1992 election was a big deal.
FreeState
(10,595 posts)I was a dumb 21 year old Mormon at that point
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I liked Harkin but didn't think he had a chance. I don't even recall who I voted for in the primary now. I did vote for Bubba in the general, of course.
MiniMe
(21,731 posts)A friend of mine had worked on Tsongas's staff.
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)LeftInTX
(25,970 posts)I preferred Tsongas, but thought Clinton was more electable.
Voted for Clinton in the GE
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)former9thward
(32,253 posts)Brown was still a fresh face then and was not as cranky as he has become. I believed Perot on NAFTA and still do.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)TekGryphon
(430 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)but I liked Bill Clinton
petronius
(26,616 posts)went to I can't recall. Clinton in the general, of course...
Robbins
(5,066 posts)I was only elgable to vote In general.That was my first time voting.I turned 18 that year.In november I voted for Bill Clinton.And unlike some here In Missouri haven't quite voting democratic since then.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
NBachers
(17,229 posts)I was giddy at the thought of what the Jerry Brown / Jesse Jackson administration would look like - Think of the people they would've brought into the government with them.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,790 posts)By the time it got to Ohio, it was down to Clinton and Tsongas, and I voted for Clinton (I was pretty ardently supporting him at that point anyway). My dad voted for Tsongas. And I've voted for the Democratic nominee every year since. Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama.
TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)and get ready to do it again in a few months.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)But I 'voted' for Clinton in my middle school mock election that way. When it came time to tally our homeroom's votes (we had an electoral college where each homeroom was a state), I was the only one to vote for Clinton. Everyone else was Bush or Perot.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and voted for Bill enthusiastsically