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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan We Just Agree that Everything is Fake? The American Aristocracy is Real.
I do not know if the MSM actually tries to deviate from the truth or if they just dont care anymore. But I hope we can all agree on one thing, that everything is fake. Its not about Left or Right at all. We are led to believe everyday that our countrys biggest problems come down to the fact that the parties cant get along. The Right obstructs everything the left tries to do (which I am not saying is entirely an outright lie). Or the Left cant stick to their virtues on any policy (which I am not saying is entirely an outright lie).
No, in fact, our problem lies in the fact that there are people in this country that wish to make an aristocracy for themselves, and indeed it is working. At an alarming pace I might add. We are on the verge of a Machiavellian society where those that have shall rule those that dont and with whatever fervor they see fit to keep those in their places. Wall Street rises while the Middle Class falls into oblivion. The rich get richer while the poor get poorer. And history is doomed to repeat itself.
It is only a matter of time before we succumb to this overtaking by the people that have used our system for their own personal gain because they could. Who in our government actually believes in or follows the Constitution anymore? The Right cries that our freedoms are being overrun because their guns, marriages, and God are being taken away. The Left cries that nothing can be done because no one will let them.
It is all a façade.
Bought and paid for by the American Aristocracy.
Manufactured lies that weigh on the fears of everyday people who worry about how they will pay their bills, feed their children, and make a somewhat pleasant life for themselves. These lies are generated purposefully to keep citizens at bay, fighting amongst themselves over ideological beliefs that have no real impact on how we live our everyday lives. Or how we should be living them. It is a matter of mass distraction. A slight of hand trick to keep people from focusing on what is really happening.
And what is really happening is frightening.
What is really happening is that we are owned. We are owned by the wealthiest in this country, and that was the plan all along. These plans were set in motion long ago to assure that the wealthy and powerful stayed wealthy and powerful. And because of this our government has become a shadow organization to ensure these people keep their stature as they see fit. And it is continuing to happen. The privatization of everything does not help our economy, and it never was intended to. The sole cause of privatization is to help those that own those businesses become wealthier and more powerful.
Prisons are overcrowded, schools are being closed down, and poverty is on the upswing. And yet, we fight about something as trivial as who people should or should not love. While they find way to take over the prisons, schools, and anything else they can get their hands on. Because they can.
It is true that there are a few politicians who may not be paid for entirely by money of those that try to oppress us. And thank goodness to whatever you believe in because that is the only thing saving us from virtual serfdom (because even if we did have that, no one from the Aristocracy would admit that, serving to keep the people happy in their places). But it certainly is not enough.
I know I am preaching to the choir as it were by posting this here.
But when do we say, enough is enough? How do we fix this, being the little people that we are? We know everything is fake. We do. But if the people keep ignoring it en masse, how shall we keep from the future to come? I, for one, shudder for my future.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)The only thing that I would add is that even the parties themselves, in large part, are a cover for what you describe.
There ARE exceptions within both parties, courageous people with integrity who have an unfailing moral compass. But their number is dwindling.
The parties play off of each other, use each other to define themselves. They even, by and large, choose the positions that they stake out merely as a means to define themselves as NOT THEM. The positions themselves have increasingly little to do with any kind of philosophical or moral belief system. If you doubt the truth of that, simply ask yourself how you would feel about a politician's positions if they were in the opposing party. For most, if they are honest, they would be forced to admit that they have become hypocrites.
I have no answers, but I do believe that we must escape from this 2 party system and try to work from without the current system in order to affect change. One good piece of advice I heard recently was that we need to take control of the areas that we CAN control -and sadly politics seems not to be one of them given the increasing corporate money influence. Academic institutions, alternate media, local groups, our children, perhaps even church and other religious groups. These are places where our voices can have an impact.
Politics, Frank Zappa said, is the entertainment branch of the military-industrial complex.
George Carlin said that elections and politicians are in place in order to give Americans the illusion that they have freedom of choice.
And sadly, it does seem that politics is one realm that we cannot control. Which I thought was the whole point of a democracy in the first place.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)This Zappa quote used to be my sig line before the current Chris Hedges quote, which pretty much nails it, also.
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
― Frank Zappa
The Carlin "Corporations Own You" is also a classic and is becoming more true by the minute. If you had only three minutes to tell the entire story of creeping American corporao-fascism this Carlin vid would be it!
Carlin vid:
-90% Jimmy
corkhead
(6,119 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)more than once. It is a big club, we aren't in it, but our politicians (yes, even the democrats) are.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Frank once called the Reagans social terrorists ...how true.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The postwar years up until about 1970 were the time when the maximum social mobility existed in the US, due primarily to programs instituted during the Depression. Many people were able to become wealthy by getting educated, working hard and taking risks. (It helped if you were white of course).
At some point I suspect the super wealthy became alarmed that so many middle class Americans were gaining wealth and influence and they began to clamp down on the institutions and policies that enabled social mobility. The real push to put the middle class back in its place began in the 80's and hasn't been interrupted yet.
There really is no middle class anymore. It's peasants and lords.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)...their daughter wanting to marry someone they met at the country club who got their money from day trading. A few million is NOTHING to the actual rich and "new money" is treated with contempt.
Many treat their family members as assets to increase their status. Want to talk "background check"? These people check to see if the family of their daughter's date appears in Marquis "Who's Who."
I read from a DU link that the height of shared prosperity in the United States was 1965. In looking at Life and Time mags of the era we were worried about what new appliance or car should we buy next and how are we going to handle 20 hour work weeks, Our ever growing prosperity would fuel a boom in leisure time activities.
We were anticipating too much leisure time and we ended up with frightened barely sustainable corporate serfdom. How the hell did that happen?
-90% Jimmy
leveymg
(36,418 posts)from the beginning.
Each new war brings a new faction to the forefront. The Civil War created the great steel and railroad Barons, World War One the Wall Street Bankers and oilmen came to dominate the country, World War Two created the modern Military Industrial Complex that still dominates the federal government and foreign policy, along with Big Oil and Wall Street and the vestiges of the original landed gentry who grabbed vast tracts of real estate during the colonial period.
The next wave seems to be global and foreign moneyed elites, China Inc. and the Saudis, as competing elites pick over our bones and demand austerity after we lost the Mideast and South Asian debt wars of the last decade.
Always, law protects property grabbed by the wealthy, no matter who they are or how they gained it.
Just another turn of the screw. It's always the commoners who get screwed.
blur256
(979 posts)they are the ones that make them.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And a lot of the power of the extremely wealthy aristocracy is derived from oil and our dependency on oil and nuclear energy. If you own a good portion of oil and nuclear energy production today, you own the world.
valerief
(53,235 posts)And the top of the religious scale are profiting generously from it as well.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)That and the distraction that trivial BS like sports and celeb worship has dulled the sense by too many that they're being slaughtered in a class war.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)The answer to this problem, which is the root cause of all of our other problems. The problem is the corruption of almost ALL of our politicians with campaign finances! The SOLUTION is to focus on one, and ONLY one issue, COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM (CCFR)! If we publicly finance our elections and take the fundraising out, and do away with Citizen's United, we can gain control of our country again. The rich and powerful corporations and the 1% run our country and write our laws. They own the media that broadcasts over our airwaves.
If we started a movement to get CCFR you would see such a reaction from them that would prove the truth of what I am saying. OWS was just a dress rehearsal. They maced those women on camera in NY to discourage the rest of us from protesting. The cops did it for a mere 20 million dollar donation to the NYPD retirement fund.
Just ask yourself, every issue you see here on DU if it could be resolved or greatly improved if we took the money out of politics.
COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!!!!
Who agrees?
Who is with me?
Lets F'in do this!!!!!!
blur256
(979 posts)It would be a good start. But attitudes have to change as well. We have such a "I'm going to to take what I want because I can" attitude that it is heartbreaking. People have to start caring about others as well.
caledesi
(11,903 posts)canoeist52
(2,282 posts)Strikes, slow-downs and boycotts are the means to that goal.
retired rooster
(114 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Candidates receive direct funding from a single, public or non-profit source.
Wouldn't we still have independent campaign expenditures -- issue ads, personal endorsements, etc. from private sources, individuals, corporations and PACs as well as public interest groups?
How could we preserve our rights under the First Amendment if we prohibited independent parties from supporting candidates through ads and other campaign support not directed by the candidate?
I don't honestly see how that could work.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)to yell "Fire" in a public theater if there is not a fire for example. I think that to protect something as important as our Representative Democracy we could enact reasonable restrictions on what can be allowed. They will always be trying to tear it down for their own ends, we would have to remain fair, but vigilant.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)rights and still retain a representative democracy. I just don't think that is possible.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)all else will be worthless.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Generations at times.
Despair is not an option.
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blur256
(979 posts)being that I am a pacifist. But I do believe jail time is appropriate for MANY.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)I'm even anti-death penalty..but have put aside my deep feelings for the greater good.
Jail would be a fair action for the bastards but we both know (sadly) that "it ain't gonna' happen"
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Are you familiar with Chenoweth & Stephan on civil resistance?
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Civil-Resistance-Works-Nonviolent/dp/0231156839/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370102652&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=chenoweth+sargent
Combining statistical analysis with case studies of specific countries and territories, Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephan detail the factors enabling such campaigns to succeed and, sometimes, causing them to fail. They find that nonviolent resistance presents fewer obstacles to moral and physical involvement and commitment, and that higher levels of participation contribute to enhanced resilience, greater opportunities for tactical innovation and civic disruption (and therefore less incentive for a regime to maintain its status quo), and shifts in loyalty among opponents' erstwhile supporters, including members of the military establishment.
Chenoweth and Stephan conclude that successful nonviolent resistance ushers in more durable and internally peaceful democracies, which are less likely to regress into civil war. Presenting a rich, evidentiary argument, they originally and systematically compare violent and nonviolent outcomes in different historical periods and geographical contexts, debunking the myth that violence occurs because of structural and environmental factors and that it is necessary to achieve certain political goals. Instead, the authors discover, violent insurgency is rarely justifiable on strategic grounds.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)strong repression.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Think Gandhi, for example, or MLK.
The main advantage of nonviolence is that you don't become your enemy, as the Bolsheviks or Peru's Shining Path insurgents did, for example. You retain the goodwill of the uncommitted populace. The real battle is ultimately humanity versus inhumanity.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)they could no longer bash their countrymen in the head while they smiled and forgave them. Peaceful civil disobedience.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Teachers, Professors, Doctors and others being arrested but they keep coming, every Monday.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Progress is always slow, but the fact that hundreds of thousands got out onto the streets of Madison, New York & the many other protest sites was pretty incredible.
With the social media and the notion of crowdsourcing, we have a lot of tactical advantages over Gandhi & MLK as well. Occupy is leaderless--a fact which drives both its enemies and its more benighted observers insane--and it morphs faster than the authorities can analyze it.
I actually think there is considerable reason for hope in all this.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)killing the actors in the system. You have to kill the system. Trotsky, Lenin, and the Bolsheviks saw this a long time ago.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)(not to disagree with your actual point, though (: )
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)nm
mick063
(2,424 posts)We think very much alike.
So now the question is..........
How do we overcome this?
Several things must change soon. FOX News (and when I say FOX, I mean it as a representative sample of broader media propaganda) must be discredited at every opportunity.
This has become a war of educating the population and we must get collectively better at it than FOX is. Time to hone up on your speaking/writing skills. Time to educate yourself to provide credible debate.
But more importantly, time to have the courage to speak up. Time to thicken your skin and speak to groups that may outnumber you. The folks on DU are sympathetic, but they are not the targeted audience. Time to take on a rougher crowd.
Be professional, not personal. Back up your argument with facts. People on the defensive will not listen to you.
Be relentless. Be a good diplomat. Represent your cause well or you may be doing more harm than good.
Not lecturing the OP who obviously has his "ducks in a row", but to folks in general that wish to change our course.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)I do disagree on one point: Who people should or should not love is not a trivial issue.
The folks who run the show excel at distraction. I learned during the Bush years that to be used as a distractor, an issue need not be trivial; in fact, truly important issues often work better than trivia. LGBT issues are among these important issues.
blur256
(979 posts)being that I am a lesbian myself. Trust me, I do not find it trivial at all. Thank you for your support.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)LGBT, reproductive choice, gun control. etc., all of which issues they flog to keep their partisans happy, but they don't much differ on economic issues. They both keep the focus on the deficit, support the Endless War, push austerity and cuts to the poor, de-regulation of corporations (whether banks, energy companies, international job-outsourcers, or whatever), etc.
Obama may give lip service to climate change theory, but watch Keystone roll through.
Even a major reform like Obamacare came to be only because it was essentially written by the insurance companies, who stand to profit handsomely from its overall structure.
Banks & corporations and the 1%ers who own them don't give a shit about LGBT, abortion, gun control and the like, so the parties are free to whip up their followers on these issues, but it would be political (and maybe literal) death for any candidate of either party to advocate fair taxation, an end to war, or a reining in of corporate welfare.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Who'd a thunk it.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)Now excuse me - I have a job, and kids and a house to take care of. A fairly nice life to get on with and a good family to enjoy it with.
And I really have no idea what you are talking about, really, or what possible useful purpose it serves to gloom about with some fatalistic teenage-angst-like lay-on-the-floor doom. "How do we fix it"? I doubt there will be any actual suggestions here for anyone to do anything. How about we take a broad swath of people who live middle class lives in the US, with higher standards of living than virtually any human beings who have ever lived, and convince them that he should drop it all and become revolutionaries, because some people have more and its so unfair? I grew out of that type of nonsense (and most people grew out of that nonsense) shortly after leaving my parent's house.
blur256
(979 posts)There are plenty of people for which it is not. Of course, no one can force you to care about those people, but it lacks some humanity not to.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)You can talk yourself into a funk and never open your eyes to what would work for you. Far more people live in misery because of their mental circumstances than because of their physical circumstances.
The poverty rate in the US is at 15%. If you are in the 85% living above that level, you should be able to manage (barring medical expenses and various unexpecteds), and say that you are among the 85% in the US living at a higher standard than virtually any people in the world, or any people in history.
If you are below that level there are good programs to alleviate material deprivation. What is left is how you live within those means, and what you might do to improve things. I'm right on the edge myself, at the 22% level. Meaning, 21% of people are poorer than me, while 77% are richer.
It makes no difference at all that some people have more money, you have to do the best with what you have, and plan effectively to do better, unless you are satisfied with what you have. Which is fine too. Planning effectively can't be done based on some hatred or negativity fueled by what you think has been taken from you; it works best if you accept what you have and go from there. I've known people who couldn't get a job, who I wouldn't hire myself (were I in that position), because they had such bad attitudes about things they didn't have and people they hated for having stuff.
hunter
(38,311 posts)Or maybe you've got the resources that you could quit work tomorrow and still live comfortably for the rest of your life.
Many USA citizens don't realize how close to the edge they are living until they fall (or get pushed) off. Until they fall, they often sound like you.
I know how to fix it -- tax the very wealthy out of existence.
Innovative people will still innovate even when their wealth is limited to a very comfortable upper middle class lifestyle. Create a world where a guy like Steve Jobs lives in the same community as his lowest paid workers. Sure, maybe he lives in a huge house behind a gate, but he's within walking distance of the comfortable apartments where the people who assemble his products live. They shop in the same stores, go to the same hospitals for care, are served by the same police and fire departments.
We don't need any super-wealthy people to function as a society; in fact these super-wealthy people are dragging the nation down with their unconscionable hoards of wealth and their destructive money games. They are playing with the lives of ordinary people but they live in their own universe, disconnected from the consequences of their games. Look at Romney, he knows nothing about the ordinary world, and he doesn't care. Working people are merely numbers to him.
The economic structure of the USA is not that of a first world nation. Instead we've become the top dog banana republic of the world, a powerful nation with a corrupt government seeking to impose our economic structures on everyone else.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)of income and capital gains tax on the wealthy.
Primarily, that's the result of differences in tax policy, within an economic structure that is otherwise nearly identical. So when I read "its all fake" and other "destroy it all and start over" sentiments, my first thought is that's just stupid and ineffective. If all the people who buy into libertarian or anarchic or antique ideological fatalism would just educate themselves and vote for a more fair tax system, perhaps there would be some real change.
blur256
(979 posts)that the tax system is broken and fixing it would go a long way to fixing the problem as a whole. But the main problem is that the people who vote and/or are influenced by the taxing systems are generally the wealthy and the corporations. And of course, raising their taxes would fix a lot, but they don't want to do that.
hunter
(38,311 posts)The oligarchy will not tolerate a redistribution of their stolen wealth.
At this point we are afraid of them. We need to make them afraid of us.
I'm not advocating violence in any way, but things like widespread strikes and boycotts, or any number of more creative actions will begin to make them nervous.
Turning off and refusing to pay for their propaganda services is a good way to start. We used to pay for cable, then we went to satellite, then we went to broadcast only, now our television is strictly a DVD player. I haven't seen any television this year, and I'm beginning to see the world a different way.
Sweden is a "first world" nation, and it would be a great improvement if we tweaked our economic system to look theirs instead of the Mexico-like economy we have now, but I also think we could create something better. We ought to be thinking of something beyond money.
There's now enough computing power and networking available that we no longer have to distill the "value" of everything down to a single currency. There are other ways of distributing resources and energy fairly and transparently.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)which is a fancy way of saying - vote with your wallet. Or your pocketbook (not to be sexist). There are few corporations around that would survive a month of people not buying their stuff, and most would fall all over themselves to change if continuing to behave badly cost them sales.
On the other hand, all the talk and reasoning in the world about fairness, equity, climate change, and so forth, falls on deaf corporate ears as long as profits are good. And as long as the advocates of bad corporate behavior (mostly repugs) keep winning elections.
...so I don't agree that everything is rigged, everything is fake (to revisit the OP); rather, everything is the result of our collective behavior, and as long as people's behaviors don't change, nothing changes. One person at a time is ok.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Response to bhikkhu (Reply #34)
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)Maybe I'm wrong and that is what the Democratic party has become.
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)(having re-read my own post). My perspective comes mostly from being a parent, and partly from having relied on the "Its all fake, its all BS" line myself for awhile. That felt very good to say when I was failing at life in my late teens, but it did me no good at all. Probably the more I relied on that kind of fatalism, the less I tried to actually understand the actual world and fit in or find my own place. It still seems to me the cry of someone who is giving up loudly, like a child laying on the floor in a pout.
Having kids now who are in their teens, and the kid's friends, its also currently an issue. When math doesn't make sense, when we have to talk about jobs and careers, when they have to slow down and focus and learn something, the reflex is to fall back on the "what difference does it make, its all fake, its just a bunch of BS!" line. Which, again, feels good to say when you are failing at life, but leads to nothing.
Its not an effective attitude, and it helps no one. Its a dead end, and there are much better ways to approach life. Caring about people sometimes requires rejecting bad behavior, behavior that's self destructive or self-defeating. Caring about yourself, the one place you can most predictably make a difference, certainly requires rejecting self-destructive or self-defeating behavior.
I know its not easy, and most people reading this thread aren't thinking about children. I remember when I had been fired from a job (unfairly, of course) a few years ago. I tried to change careers, took classes and spread resumes around, without success. Every morning it was an effort to get out of bed and put on a good face, organize thoughts, summon the energy to clean up and dress and act like someone who was hire-able and likeable, to plan out the day while feeling like there was no future. Its such a platitude, but whether it works out well in the end or not you do have to keep trying, and "its all BS!" doesn't help.
Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)as an opportunity to say "tough shit, shut up and be happy with what little you have". People see what's going on. They know things are getting worse for the working class. They know they are being lied to. They know wages have been stagnant for decades. If they were "giving up", they probably wouldn't be here talking about it. Just because they've lost faith in this fake political system you are so attached to doesn't mean they've lost hope and quit trying to make things better.
The working class has been decimated and it's ongoing. How anybody could disregard complaints about that and trivialize the hardship people have endured is beyond me. I'd say it's you that has given up. You embrace the injustice and encourage others to as well. No thanks.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Well, durn. I'd have to say that condescension and sarcasm are not the row I'd choose to hoe. People are hurting -- here and across the planet. Using social media to discuss this reality has become part of our process of raising awareness and seeking solutions. Perhaps, if you'd strive for a wee bit of compassion?
bhikkhu
(10,715 posts)and I do understand that people are hurting, and that social media is very valuable in finding community and shoulders to lean on, as many people are very much alone with their troubles. Recognizing that, and having gone through quite a bit of it myself over the years, I would still focus on effective remedies rather than momentary band-aids.
As I mentioned above, when one is doing poorly or feels rejected and unfairly treated, it feels very good to fall back on the "its all BS", all fake, all rigged or phony posture. That's what I see in the OP, and its exactly what does no good at all in practice. When I was in the worst shape there was depression, substance abuse, poor health, and a general bad attitude that fed the whole cycle of behavior perpetuating those conditions. "Its all BS" was an attitude that felt good then, but fed the source of the problems. It didn't help at all.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I have struggled to maintain a positive demeanor through those tough times, and I'm glad to say that I have a full-time job right now, with two rascally and much-appreciated men--both of whom spoil me rotten.
I found it difficult to hear others telling me, "it'll get better" or "you have to keep your spirits up!" I found that I had to find my own way through the rough spots. (And, I recognize these friends were 'trying to help.')
That being said, I have been in the workforce for over forty years, and I have to agree with the OP about how much the corporate megalomaniacs have damaged the job market with their hedonism and 'out-sourcing.' Jobs that pay little and require virtually no special skills now routinely net THOUSANDS of applications. Our children are not 'entering' the workforce with a plethora of options awaiting them. They'll be damned lucky to find any job.
I know that we are watching history unfold, and that something will have to change soon. #Occupy gives me hope that our young people are exploring solutions, and are willing to do whatever it takes to effect change.
Thanks for your response.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)If you have not already you should investigate:
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent:_The_Political_Economy_of_the_Mass_Media
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)down to internet websites like this one.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Indeed... I have often thought that there are many interesting factors work. At a site like this there is a certain amount of peer pressure not to think about certain things like, well, dare I say it, drone strikes... I really enjoyed a recent Chomsky interview on this specific point:
http://www.zcommunications.org/noam-chomsky-breaks-the-set-on-war-imperialism-and-propaganda-by-noam-chomsky
hunter
(38,311 posts)Many people are so well conditioned to accept our current economic system without question that they seem entirely unable to imagine an economic system that works without money.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022920665
tblue
(16,350 posts)It's already happened. We've already crossed the line. One reason people came out en masse to vote for Obama was because they thought he could help right this ship. It just wasn't possible with the PTB, and we have kept going down that bad path instead.
Silent3
(15,211 posts)I figure any effort at explanation would be wasted, however. It would involve matters of degree, not absolutes. It would involve real people, not cartoons and cliches. It would involve the idea that dysfunctional group dynamics can produce bad outcomes without the need for conspiratorial cabals of oppressors.
None of which I imagine you're open to, and any attempt to explain further would be a losing fight against straw men, oversimplification, and your own likely self-image as a brave soul who's seen through "the charade" and knows THE TRVTH.
librechik
(30,674 posts)This time they had to use sophisticated psychological techniques, and more subtle use of force. But they got us. And I don't see how we will escape this time from the rule of ultra rich overlords whose power is above and beyond any putrid democracy we may scrape up.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)blur256
(979 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)edhopper
(33,579 posts)and welcome to DU.
I think my signature sums it up nicely.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)comparison to the post-ww2 years.
but i agree with the general sentiment that 'everything is fake'.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)This is not new. Every bit of influence ordinary people have has been hard fought and won. And is still only a drop in the bucket compared to the elite
This is what annoys me about the sky-is-falling people. They think it was better BEFORE. It was never better. Don't you get it? Good god.
Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)Which many people will never do. However, many people are shopping organic, local, outside of insurance scams, outside of banking scams, outside of investment scams, outside of everything mainstream.
That's what is happening.
blur256
(979 posts)I've started going to the farmer's market when I can and I find that I feel better when I'm not eating questionable grocery store foods. I also shop at other local shops as much as possible as well.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)21 pages of straight talk, the ultra-rich speaking to each other in their own language, revealing many interesting things:
http://www.box.com/shared/9if6v2hr9h
"Plutonomy: Buying Luxury, Explaining Global Imbalances"
"Little of this note should tally with conventional thinking. Indeed, traditional thinking is likely to have issues with most of it. We will posit that:
1) the world is dividing into two blocs - the plutonomies, where economic growth is powered by and largely consumed by the wealthy few, and the rest.
Plutonomies have occurred before in sixteenth century Spain, in seventeenth century Holland, the Gilded Age and the Roaring Twenties in the U.S. What are the common drivers of Plutonomy?
Disruptive technology-driven productivity gains, creative financial innovation, capitalist- friendly cooperative governments, an international dimension of immigrants and overseas conquests invigorating wealth creation, the rule of law, and patenting inventions. Often these wealth waves involve great complexity, exploited best by the rich and educated of the time.
2) We project that the plutonomies (the U.S., UK, and Canada) will likely see even more income inequality, disproportionately feeding off a further rise in the profit share in their economies, capitalist-friendly governments, more technology-driven productivity, and globalization."
Download three secret Citigroup Plutonomy reports
http://our99angrypercent.wordpress.com/2011/11/27/download-citigroup-plutonomy-memos/
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(84,711 posts)I just had to get it out there.