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sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:44 AM Jun 2013

Wanker of the day: John Stossel



John Stossel has said some pretty ridiculous crap over the years, but this might take the prize for the most insensitive, moronic thing that has ever come out of his piehole:

Fox Business host John Stossel on Thursday declared that government programs should be cut based on the false assertion that “no one” died of starvation in the Great Depression before the modern “welfare state.” [...]
“And when people are needy you want them [to get] help,” Stossel agreed. “But think about the [Great] Depression. That was before there was any welfare state at all. How many people starved? No one.” “Right, good point,” Doocy agreed.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/5/31/104238/031

I made a dumb statement about starvation on Fox & Friends yesterday AM,” he added in another post to Twitter.

“I was almost certainly wrong,” Stossel explained on his blog. “During the Depression, the governor of Pennsylvania wrote, ‘we know that starvation is widespread, but no one has enumerated the starving.’ However, all other governors who wrote to Congress, 43 of them, sent letters saying that they knew of no starvation in their states. Historians Steven Mintz and Sara McNeil wrote that there were hundreds of deaths in NYC alone.”

But at the same time, the Fox Business host also asserted that government welfare programs had “caused more problems by driving private charity out.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/30/fox-business-host-cut-government-because-no-one-died-of-starvation-before-welfare/

Photo Credit: Photograph of non-starving woman and children during the Great Depression, courtesy of blsciblogs.baruch.cuny.edu) and Dorothea Lange, documentary photographer employed by the Federal Resettlement Administration and the Farm Security Administration from 1935 - 1939)
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Wanker of the day: John Stossel (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2013 OP
Just give him a lifetime achievement award and be done with it toddaa Jun 2013 #1
America's #1 Corporate Fluffer Wanker: DA Stosseler (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #7
Wanker Fluffer rolls off the tongue better. hootinholler Jun 2013 #37
Juanita Jean thinks Stossel is an idiot also Gothmog Jun 2013 #2
Juanita, well said. sheshe2 Jun 2013 #5
"...almost certainly wrong..." Mike Nelson Jun 2013 #3
He seemed so normal back in his 20/20 days. DirkGently Jun 2013 #4
Pleased to be the one to post the link to stossel v. Dr D David Schultz interview fob Jun 2013 #6
Looks like he got slapped around hard. Rex Jun 2013 #11
Thanks, fob. sheshe2 Jun 2013 #14
That video never fails to cheer me. Frank Cannon Jun 2013 #16
Of course he cant see any starvation from where his head is. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #8
Professional Liar Octafish Jun 2013 #9
Like anyone cares what the brain dead hosts of Sucknews Rex Jun 2013 #10
"Wanker of the day" doesn't cover it. Stossel deserves a Lifetime Wanker Achievement award. (nt) scarletwoman Jun 2013 #12
It's like the refrigerator thing booley Jun 2013 #13
+1 classof56 Jun 2013 #20
Stossel is such a fucking ASSHOLE Skittles Jun 2013 #15
My mother always kept a huge supply.... rppper Jun 2013 #17
My Father & Mother Suffered From Food Deprevation During The Depression HangOnKids Jun 2013 #27
I heard this in a movie Skittles Jun 2013 #32
We Make Them Proud Skit HangOnKids Jun 2013 #34
It must be so nice to be connected to tight social circles and feel free to share Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #18
I have to tell you, Baitball Blogger Skittles Jun 2013 #39
Over-simplistic bullshit. Aye. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #40
LOL.......BB Skittles Jun 2013 #41
I'm sure many commited suicide Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #19
or died before their time like my grandmother from lasting effects of malnutrition. hollysmom Jun 2013 #21
That certainly qualifies as starvation related in my book Shankapotomus Jun 2013 #36
She died just before she turned 60, hollysmom Jun 2013 #38
I've always disliked that wanker treestar Jun 2013 #22
he's a wanker every day. arely staircase Jun 2013 #23
Fox Business Channel is the single worst network on TV. Initech Jun 2013 #24
Time to Outsource Stossel's Job Wolf Frankula Jun 2013 #25
^^^ LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #30
My mother cried when she watched Cinderella Man, because she hedgehog Jun 2013 #26
My Mother watered down milk as well HangOnKids Jun 2013 #28
Stossel rips Fed flood insurance and cashes in 3X BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #29
Heres to all thos right wing so called christians... SummerSnow Jun 2013 #31
So I don't have to tell my family that our mother's baby cousin didn't really die in 1933? proud2BlibKansan Jun 2013 #33
He's a Libertarian... DonViejo Jun 2013 #35

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
4. He seemed so normal back in his 20/20 days.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:56 AM
Jun 2013

It's like at some point he was devoured by a rogue copy of Atlas Shrugged, and this pseudo-Libertarian slime monster was spat out upon the world.

fob

(5,578 posts)
6. Pleased to be the one to post the link to stossel v. Dr D David Schultz interview
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jun 2013

Enjoy!


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Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
16. That video never fails to cheer me.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jun 2013

Watching John Stossel getting his clock cleaned is like Ben & Jerry' s Cookie Dough Ice Cream for the soul.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Like anyone cares what the brain dead hosts of Sucknews
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:47 PM
Jun 2013

has to say. They are the dumbest creatures on the planet, right above their brain dead, zombie followers. Proven to be some of the dumbest people on the planet.

booley

(3,855 posts)
13. It's like the refrigerator thing
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jun 2013

when supposedly poor people were living it up because they had, you know, a refrigerator.

Never mind that most poor people rent and the frig typically comes with the apartment.

It's a combination of lack of empathy and cluelessness.

Anybody who knows anything about kids knows that they don't have to die to be damaged by lack of food.

Anybody who has been poor knows being hungry all the time leads to poor food choices.

But guys like Stossel dont' know that and probably don't care to know. even when these things are pointed out to them, it doesn't change their argument because to do that, they would have to acknowledge other human beings.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
20. +1
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jun 2013

Well and truly said. What sad creatures Stossel et al are, with their total lack of compassion. Shame!

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
15. Stossel is such a fucking ASSHOLE
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jun 2013

my dad did not starve to death during the Depression but I can tell you lack of knowing when his next meal was when he was a child affected him for the rest of his LIFE

rppper

(2,952 posts)
17. My mother always kept a huge supply....
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:02 AM
Jun 2013

....of staples....flour, sugar, rice, various beans, pasta, dried beef(what you make SOS out of).....she made no qualms about it either...her father showed her....I keep a healthy supply(although mine is due more to living a mile from the Atlantic and 90 from the gulf).....

That slap Dave Schultz gave him years ago must have shaken something loose....

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
27. My Father & Mother Suffered From Food Deprevation During The Depression
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013

Long after my Father became very successful my Mother would not eat enough because she felt guilty. To the day she died she took rolls and leftovers home in her purse, even though her own fridge was fully stocked. They were both hurt quite horrifically, and Stossel is a fucking ASSHOLE.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
32. I heard this in a movie
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

"I was raised by people who didn't just THINK bad things could happen - they KNEW they could" - people like our parents (dad a Depression survivor, mum a WWII survivor) have more character and class than that rat bastard Stossel EVERY will - JEEZ HE MAKES ME SICK

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
18. It must be so nice to be connected to tight social circles and feel free to share
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jun 2013

the tidbits you hear over martinis when you get to work the next day.

I want that job.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
39. I have to tell you, Baitball Blogger
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jun 2013

I think you NAIL it - I have often wondered how / where they come up with their simplistic garbage that seems to have no connection to the real world

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
40. Over-simplistic bullshit. Aye.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jun 2013

Steven Colbert referred to it as Truthism. If you hang around them you can see how easily they accept a bad idea as it gets around a room. My old hippie teacher used to call it parroting.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
36. That certainly qualifies as starvation related in my book
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jun 2013

Sorry to hear your grandmother's time on this earth was so unnecessarily limited.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
38. She died just before she turned 60,
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jun 2013

not outrageously young, but she fed her family first during the depression and ate what ever scraps there were if any.
First the husband,then the boys, then her daughter and finally herself.
They said starving herself weakened her heart. My aunt is over 90 and the oldest relative I ever had but very very cheap.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
24. Fox Business Channel is the single worst network on TV.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jun 2013

It only exists to promote Koch narratives and Heritage Foundation talking points, and talking heads like John Stossel are paid shills who only exist to regurgitate this incredibly toxic narrative.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
25. Time to Outsource Stossel's Job
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

Somebody in China can say things that stupid for a quarter of what they're paying Stossel.

Wolf

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
26. My mother cried when she watched Cinderella Man, because she
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:49 PM
Jun 2013

remembered people watering down the milk to make it last.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
28. My Mother watered down milk as well
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

Until my Father stepped in and said "Isabelle you can fart through silk now, please give the kids full milk."

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
31. Heres to all thos right wing so called christians...
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

the next time you talk about how god fearing and christian you are and at the same time denying people sustenance here is few bible quotes for you...I mean its only right since you claim you're a Christian.

James 2:14 What does it profit, my brothers, though a man say he has faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say to them, Depart in peace, be you warmed and filled; notwithstanding you give them not those things which are needful to the body; what does it profit? …

Luke 3:11 John answered, "Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same."

1 john 3:17 But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
33. So I don't have to tell my family that our mother's baby cousin didn't really die in 1933?
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jun 2013

Phew. Thanks John.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
35. He's a Libertarian...
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jun 2013

I'm a libertarian in part because I see a false choice offered by the political left and right: government control of the economy -- or government control of our personal lives.

People on both sides think of themselves as freedom lovers. The left thinks government can lessen income inequality. The right thinks government can make Americans more virtuous. I say we're best off if neither side attempts to advance its agenda via government.


Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2012/08/15/why-im-libertarian#ixzz2V6ciqZ7u

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