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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToo little and too fucking late-A generation without grief counseling....
It's about old guys and killing ugly and seeing death and then going on. I'm old now and yet lucky enough to have missed an unfair grinder war. My people didn't and every day they pay. I don't know how they survive it or what they see in the morning sun that let's them go on.
Just saw a post about a responder who received no counseling after treating Boston Marathon injuries. God knows we offer counselors
like they were party treats for every trauma. I often wondered if the counselors know from experience or just read what people are "supposed" to do. I also know a combat guy that got nothing but 5 days of flights and processing home after a year in a bad valley that left him to ponder granite panels and whys....
These are the Vietnam guys. They served and survived or not and then shipped home recognized only for field gear lost that they were charged for.The old ones are 70 and the young just over 60. The roster of the dead is appalling and that of the living is at best divided between the few with coping skills you don't have and some dying wrecks.
These guys didn't see a bad morning-they lived a nightmare past Hieronymus Bosch. A (damn) few sit on this board.
I'm old and sometimes cranky. We talked about these guys and will again in November. It ain't enough. America fucked them heavy. I don't know it but I suspect were doing it again to our multiple deployment guys. The ones I count as real survivors should each of them be on a board to decide American involvement in foreign wars. And those waiting t o die should get two votes.
Fuck every politician who wants more troops in the middle east.
ananda
(28,860 posts)The effects of grief and various levels of PTSD are getting to be
more widespread and common, not only here, but across the
world. It all makes me shudder.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Habibi
(3,598 posts)Because it's chilling, and should be read repeatedly.
Change has come
(2,372 posts)n/t
Absolutely. Fuck every last one of them that ever mentions war again. Damn vulture chickenhawks.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Because that bears repeating.
(The period goes inside the quote at the end of the sentence, right? Sorry Ms. Black, I still don't know about that one.)