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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-trial-cop-application-20130604,0,6430716.storyHis application and rejection letter are among the latest pieces of evidence the state has notified defense attorneys they may use at Zimmerman's trial, which begins Monday.
Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder. He's the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old, after calling police and describing the teenager as suspicious.
He was a student at Seminole State College, about to complete a two-year degree in criminal justice, at the time of the shooting.
He also took part in a citizens' academy, a program sponsored by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office that allows people to become more familiar with police work.
On his 2008 application to join that program, he wrote, "I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard as I hope to one day become one."
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graham4anything
(11,464 posts)JI7
(89,279 posts)and the murder of trayvon is evidence of it
MattBaggins
(7,905 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)He had his gun and he hunted his victim down and got to execute his fantasy. I've seen it with dozens of people. They try to be cops, then jailers, then security guards... They keep falling down the law enforcement hierarchy till they find a spot that doesn't reject them.
MADem
(135,425 posts)He got plenty of practice beating up some young girl as a bouncer at a club, IIRC....
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Thank whoever that he didn't get to be a cop!
unblock
(52,387 posts)i'm sure it "goes to state of mind" or something like that, but i really don't see this as showing anything that being an armed neighborhood watch volunteer doesn't.
is it supposed to show that he was more likely to have an itchy trigger finger? less likely to have been attacked?
i think he most likely was itching for a rationalization to shoot someone, though i think the prosecution will have a tough time proving it beyond a reasonable doubt. i'm not clear on what this legitimately adds to their case.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)the prosecution is trying to paint a picture of zimmerman being the attacker (which i believe he was), so they have to undermine the idea that he was attacked and shooting in self-defense (which i believe is the defense story).
so anything the prosecution presents that makes it seem less likely that zimmerman was attacked makes their case stronger.
what i don't get is how his interest in being a cop or being turned down accomplishes that.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that wasn't exactly a "an armed neighborhood watch volunteer." That is, he might've been voluntarily watching the neighborhood, but he wasn't affiliated with or accepted by any organization that kept a semi-official eye on the neighborhood. No discipline, no chain of command, no oversight, no policies or prescribed protocols, and no guidelines for how to intercede with "suspicious characters."
I thought he was a just a guy with a gun who took it upon himself to eyeball the neighborhood and, without authority, followed kid who, in his judgment, shouldn't be on the street there.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Guess she wasn't a cop.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Of what? What is this supposed to imply, much less prove?
For what it's worth, I think he's guilty as sin, but I also think he will walk. I say all this as an expert, being a seasoned 'Law and Order' viewer and such.
JI7
(89,279 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)honestly think he could act with the same authority as a police officer without being one? This guy sounds delusional along with being certain other things, like racist and paranoid.
MattBaggins
(7,905 posts)This came out within days of the murder.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)grok
(550 posts)Not a clue there was something else too but that's enough. At least in my neighbourhood in CA.
You generally need at least an Associates degree and preferably a Bachelors in a relevant field(psychology,criminal law,etc) Sure, exceptions are made sometimes but it's exceedingly rare.
My neighbour's boys (21 and 27) are constantly applying and getting rejected. Good guys too. Polite and helpful to everybody. Never drink, swear or get into trouble. One is set to graduate soon with a AS in criminal law so I suspect he will get in.