FYI, Women Also Pay For Sex. As Evidenced by the Showtime Series, "Gigolos".

[Yavin4]

It's in Season 4:




http://www.sho.com/sho/gigolos/home

[In_The_Wind]

1. That's been going on forever.

[Yavin4]

2. According to some DUers, only scumbag, ugly, and controlling men pay for sex n/t

[In_The_Wind]

4. Lonely people who are not scumbags also pay for companionship and/or sex.

Some DUers are not always correct in spite of what they think.

[Yavin4]

8. Thank you.

A voice of reason.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

22. The reasons for hiring prostitutes are as many as drops in the sea.

But people rather think black and white rather than gray.

[In_The_Wind]

37. Real life is never simply black or white.

[ZombieHorde]

52. No one here has been saying that real life is simply black or white. nt

[Lady Freedom Returns]

59. You know that, I know that, but...

it is freighting how many can not fathom that.

[In_The_Wind]

63. I hope life is kind to them.

May they never know adversity, hunger or fear.

[ZombieHorde]

53. Link please. nt

[HappyMe]

3. Well, of course they do.

[NightWatcher]

5. Well shit, if its on tv

It's gotta be true.

[Yavin4]

7. So, they just made it up. Gigolos don't exist.

And the men on the show are just actors pretending to be male prostitutes. Got it.

[Dorian Gray]

15. Is it a documentary?

this is the first I've heard of the show.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

58. That's what I was thinking

People here can be so obtuse about obvious things. If you need a link to prove gigolos exist you are a moron in my book.

BTW, the show isn't half bad either.

[Harmony Blue]

6. Women have higher sex drives then men

but (American)society says they are not allowed to show it or admit it. News at 11.

Women especially that are over the age of 30+ have way higher sex drives then men aged between 18-25.

[leeroysphitz]

42. Link?

[Fumesucker]

9. ...

[Just Saying]

10. I can't find data on this online

But I'm guessing it's quite a tiny number. Women in general just don't work that way.

And a "reality" show is hardly scientific proof of anything.

[Yavin4]

11. The show may indeed be fake, but the "Gigolo" concept is not

There are women that do support men in exchange for sexual favors.

[Just Saying]

12. Sure there are.

I'm just saying that compared to men it's probably a small number.

Women tend to want more from sex than just physical release. And if that is all we want, frankly, a lot of men are big sluts and we don't have to pay for it.

[HappyMe]

14. Sometimes it is all

about the physical release. I don't think that women always have to have the clingy "this means something" sex.

So do you think men can be sluts but women can't?

[Just Saying]

19. No, but in my experience,

And estimation men are much more willing to engage in casual sex. Perhaps it's societal expectations (double standards) . Sluts may not be the best word for it. Promiscuous?

As a woman, I can and have had sex without emotional attachment but I wouldn't pay for it nor would I accept money for sex.

Not to burst the guys' bubbles, but if we're talking strictly of release, we women don't really need you at all for that. We can "handle" our own needs with no bullshit and no price tag.

[HappyMe]

21. Men can also 'handle' it

on their own. No need to wine and dine a woman, no bullshit, no price tag.


If the men are engaging in casual sex, they're doing it with women engaging in casual sex - so I think the one gender does it more thing is wrong.

[Just Saying]

24. Well since the sex trade is booming

Men aren't "handeling" it. Lmao Boy this is some conversation!

Statistically women have an average of 4 sex partners and men average 7. And men lose their virginity a bit younger.

http://www.livescience.com/11387-10-surprising-sex-statistics.html

More stats can be found here:

http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html#number

Enjoy!

[treestar]

35. Clingy?

That term just goes with sex that "means something?"

It's a different issue if you find "meaningful" sex negative as in "clingy." Sounds like a mental or emotional problem.

[leeroysphitz]

45. No, it sounds like an opinion maybe based on a life experience

that while different from yours is no less valid.

Check your well adjusted person privelege.

[treestar]

50. Sounds like the poster just does not like the idea

of sex meaning anything and so finds regular women "clingy." That's a negative adjective. And it generally seems to describe real relationships.

[Harmony Blue]

17. As a man sex isn't just a physical release for me

as the closeness is important to me as well. I have known many women that were only interested in the physical release and did not want such closeness or comfort, so they come off "cold" and distant. Obviously these women were not compatible with me and my needs. But I can definitely say older women have higher sex drives than younger women and they also have more experience too.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. I'll guess the ratio is 1000:1. Probably off by several orders of magnitude.

You do have a point. A very small point. Smaller than this:.

[Sheldon Cooper]

41. ...

[riderinthestorm]

16. Its a teevee show and you are citing this as evidence??!!!

There are also "reality shows" where people fake being in love to "win" the bachelor. Do you think those are real too?

I don't watch teevee but if this is your standard you really need to get out more...

[Apophis]

18. You mean it isn't only sexist, women-hating men who pay for sex?

[Neoma]

20. -Flight of the Conchords.

It's a cold night
Beneath the street lights
There's a man whose pants are too tight
Oh no, his pants are too tight
My pants are too tight!

He stands there, an empty stare
Trying to make enough money
For his cab fare home
He'll have to walk home tonight
Don't have enough for the ride

The streets are cruel
He tries to act cool
He goes to work with only his one tool
You can put away your tool, Jermaine!

You don't have to be a prostitute
No, no, no, no, no
You can say no to being a man ho,
A male gigolo

You don't have to be a prostitute
No, no, no, no, no
You can say no to being a night looker
Boy hooker, rent boy, bro ho

He can't see his way out
I cannot my way out
He can't see his way out
Male prostitution seems to be my only option

He can't see his way out
I cannot see my way out
He can't see his way out
No, no, no, no, no

He's selling cheap thrills
To pay expensive bills
But check your resume
You must have some other skills
Do you have any other skills
Like typing?

They see him, wanting to please them
Wanting to play him
But they don't even pay him
Oh no, no
They don't think he's worth it at all

Though they are no one
He tries to bring them home
Maybe it'd be okay if he lived alone
Ooh, you have a roommate, Jermaine
Don't bring them home!

You don't have to be a prostitute!
No, no, no, no, no
You can say no to being a man ho
A male gigolo

You don't have to be a prostitute
No, no, no, no, no
You can say no to being a night looker
Boy hooker, rent boy, bro pro!

[Zorra]

51. lol! How about. "Jermaine" ?

(Apologies to Sting)

"Jermaine" (Sung to the tune of "Roxanne&quot

Jermaine
You don't have to put on the red light
Those days are over
You don't have to sell your body to the night

Jermaine
You don't have to wear those pants tonight
Walk the streets for money
You don't care if it's wrong or if it's right

Jermaine
You don't have to put on the red light

I loved you since I knew you
I wouldn't talk down to you
I have to tell you just how I feel
I won't share you with another girl
I know my mind is made up
So put away your fake stuff
Told you once I won't tell you again
It's a bad way

Jermaine
You don't have to put on the red light
Jermaine
You don't have to put on the red light

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. Not one woman has ever paid a man for sex. Ever. Never, ever.

Why would you even say something like that? Every thinking person knows it's not true...

[leeroysphitz]

46. LOL

[Yo_Mama]

25. I think most male prostitutes do a lot of business with men

There was some guy who tried to be a hooker (with women) out in Nevada, I think. He never got anywhere.

I do think wealthier women will pay for an attractive escort with some sex on the side, but it's a small demographic.

In general, most women who are looking for sex can get it pretty easily. Men are not that selective.

[Just Saying]

26. That's what I said!

But I think this thread is really just because some guys were offended by the speculation and judgement about johns on another thread.

[raccoon]

48. True, but to many, it's the quality, not the quantity, that matters.

"In general, most women who are looking for sex can get it pretty easily. "

[Yo_Mama]

55. Right, but that's why there is little demand by women for male prostitutes

A relationship type thing where an older woman might provide a considerable degree of support in return for companionship/escort/sex maybe.

But the let's roll in the hay phenomenon that most men get from prostitutes isn't really there for women, because almost any woman can get that roll in the hay without paying for it. Men are pretty willing to just jump in the sack with you.

Yes, yes, I know we are not supposed to stereotype by gender, but to some extent doing that complete ignores reality. In our society, a woman looking for a quickie doesn't have to work that hard to get it, and you don't have to worry about the religious police executing you, so....

[raccoon]

57. CHeck your pm's. nt

[Go Vols]

27. short search pops up quite a few of these

Some women said they like paying for what they called the "perfect boyfriend experience," because at the end of the night, they pay the guy to go away.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/secrets-gigolos-women-pay-sex/story?id=15644065
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Straight Male Escorts For Women - Male Companions For Women

http://www.cowboys4angels.com/about.html

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Women’s sex tourism is especially popular nowadays. Sources state that about 600,000 women come to the countries of the Caribbean Basin every year in search of men’s attention and love.

http://www.escapeartist.com/Travel_Mag/Issues/07/Womens_Sex_Tourism.html

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

28. "As Evidenced by the Showtime Series"

Well that phrase always shows an argument is off to a solid start...

[Yavin4]

31. And "that some tragic series of events probably delivered a given individual to the sex trade"

is better? That's nothing more than condescending and insulting claptrap.

[kestrel91316]

29. I would NEVER get in bed with any guy with that pointy-headed do.

Seriously. Do they not realize how idiotic they look with that point???

My gentlemen friends are all way better looking than those guys, and I never have to pay them. They even bring wine or beer.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

33. One is orange, one looks like a Russian mobster, another...

like something out of "Lords of Flatbush." That leaves the suit on the left and the dude in the cheesy '70s leather jacket. I'd have to see their bodies.

[Squinch]

30. I once saw a show about a person who ate laundry detergent. What's your point?

PS, Showtime series don't constitute "evidence."

[IveWornAHundredPants]

32. I don't care about gigolos or who pays for sex,

but what's this about eating detergent?

[Squinch]

60. .

[JI7]

34. i would pay to NOT be with them, they look like douchebags

especially the tanned one with the white hair.

[Just Saying]

36. Prostitution is being discussed because it victimizes women

Read some stats:

http://sex-crimes.laws.com/prostitution/prostitution-statistics

You belittle a serious problem with these reality tv gigolos.

[Yavin4]

39. Prohibition creates victims. n/t

[Just Saying]

40. That's one theory

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/newsAndMedia/news/archives/2012/12/Legalised-prostitution-increases-human-trafficking.aspx

I don't have a problem with what adults choose to do whether it's prostitution or drugs for that matter but making these things legal brings new issues.

[Squinch]

61. Prohibition of:

child molestation?
murder?
sale of tainted drugs?
sale of tainted food?
driving while drunk?
robbery?
truancy?
slavery?

Seems like prohibition isn't the thing that creates victims. Seems like it's something else.

[Nye Bevan]

38. Provided that these men are adults, and not abused or trafficked,

I am OK with this.

[Sheldon Cooper]

43. Sure they do. In the exact same numbers, and with the exact same consequences.

Those poor men are routinely beaten by their pimp(ettes), robbed, raped, and typically end up spiralling into a pit of drug abuse, disease, and frequently death. All at the hands of ugly nasty and oppressive women who just want to use their meat to get their rocks off. It's tragic, and for the love of God someone should pass a law.

[Squinch]

62. Pimpettes are a scourge. But we can't prohibit them. Because that would cause victims.

[Iggo]

44. Who gives a shit?

[raccoon]

47. They aren't doing it for the money, though. They like sex and like to meet new people.

I don't know any gigolos, but I'm sure that is the case.

See also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022950178

[Sheldon Cooper]

49. Yeah, they're working their way through med school, and they

just love meeting fun and interesting new people, and having sex with them. The money they earn is just secondary.

[undeterred]

56. Finally, the world understands.

[Niceguy1]

54. when it is all said and done

Most men spend a fortune for sex...dinner, movies, that huge teddy bear at the fair (worrh every penny lol)

[Rise Rebel Resist]

64. a quick trip to eastern Europe for example Greece or

Turkey kind a proves you point.