This illegal act could result in losing your home, your assets, incarceration and/or civil liability

[Earth_First]

The crime?

Seed Saving

[madokie]

1. Explain yourself

[Earth_First]

2. Ag giants such as Monsanto have crop research and trial lawyers

which seek to make seed saving a patent infringement by saving seeds for future use illegal.

There have been a handful of cases recently, mostly agricultural in nature; however there is reason to believe that this wouldn't soon apply to retail situations as well...

I'll link a few stories here shortly.

[madokie]

9. Ok,

thats what you see in the future but not necessarily the way it is just yet. I understand

[badtoworse]

3. This no different than stealing any other kind of intellectual property

Are you OK with using pirated software or selling pirated music?

[Earth_First]

4. False equivalency.

Access to food, which is Article 25 of the UN Human Rights Declaration states that 'everyone has a right to a standard of living...including food...'

Commoditizing and patenting seed; which seed saving is a practice as old as civilization itself is in direct competition with the aforementioned.

You cannot eat pirated software.

[badtoworse]

5. So plant and save non-GMO seeds

[Javaman]

6. Doesn't matter if you do...

check out the documentary "The Future of Food".

One segment details how monsanto is muscling out the seed processing industry that was part and parcel of the farming industry for years.

It's not as clear cut as you might think.

[sibelian]

8. No.

Seeds bought to produce plants engineered by Monsanto partake of the natural process of reproduction. If you buy a dog and the dog has puppies, they are yours, because the dog is yours. The original owner of the dog cannot say "but I didn't get any money for them it's not fair". Monsanto has no "right" to claim that the produce of their artificially enhanced organism belongs to anyone but the person buying the artificially enhanced organism. Claiming otherwise is just money grubbing and monopolising, pure and simple. Monsantos seeds are the property of those who buy them and, because seeds replicate themselves, the owner can expect more seeds.

Do sewing machine manufacturers own the clothes made by the machine? No.

Do cake tin manufacturers own the cakes made in them? No.

Monsanto is trying to turn a natural process that works for free into a pay-per-seed process that doesn't, for one reason, to make money for themselves.

This must not be allowed to happen.

[Voice for Peace]

10. well-explained, good example

thanks!

[sibelian]

7. Seeds are not intellectual property. They are the produce of plants.

Nothing in nature can be considered "intellectual property". Seeds are the product of a natural process, they cannot be claimed as property of anyone except the person who bought the original plant.

Your position is stupid and transparently manipulative. It's like saying Adobe owns copyright on photos manipulated with Photoshop.