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privilegeBy Liberal Librarian 110 Comments
by @Lib_Librarian Cross posted on The Peoples View
But something strange happened. Mrs. Obama didnt stand there and take her guff. She very politely offered those gathered a choice: they could listen to her, or they could listen to Sturtz. Suddenly, her bubble of privilege was punctured. She didnt, in her wildest imaginings, think that Michelle Obama would actually stand up to her. She thought that because she had bought a $500 ticket she had the right to be rude to the First Lady, and to the other attendees who had bought their tickets to hear her speak. She was taken aback as she whined later at Mrs. Obamas polite but forceful confrontation. She was quite ready to talk at Mrs. Obama; she was completely unprepared to be talked back to, as if she were the teacher and Mrs. Obama some unruly child.
Obviously, those on the Right who back the GOP, like the Koch Brothers, come from a place of ultimate privilege as scions of wealth. But a large segment of the Left also operates from that place. Ellen Sturtz is emblematic of that privilege: she thought that, simply because of who she was, she had the right to speak disrespectfully to Mrs. Obama. Forget that she is the First Lady; first and foremost she is a human being, with strengths and failings. The Right feasts on dehumanizing its opponents, painting them as Others; some on the Left fall into the same sin, believing that their worldview is the only correct one, and anyone who doesnt agree with it is uninformed and must be taken by the hand and shown the truth. What Ellen Sturtz did last night is not see Michelle Obama as a woman, a mother, a wife, a strong supporter of equal rights for all; to Sturtz, Mrs. Obama was a cypher upon which she could load all her anger and ideology. She wasnt a person, but a wall upon which she could post her theses. No wonder she was taken aback when the wall turned out to be a strong human being who had had enough of the disrespect shown to her, her husband, and her family for six years, much of that disrespect coming from people who were supposed to be allies.
Well done, Liberal Librarian!
More here.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/06/06/privilege/#more-122699
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)hundreds of lesser rights taken for granted by those who are apparently not privileged.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)That was the First Ladies topic.
To Ellen, they are nothing. Less than nothing.
Bad call on Stutz's part, alienating the very person that supports their cause for equality. The First Lady wants Equality for all, not just for one group, but for all people.
The voice that was speaking out for our children was being rudely drown out. Guess Ellen feels only her issues are important.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)do to no federal job protections. Gay people have children, some of them live in poverty do to discrimination.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)As I am of gay rights issues. I have always supported them. Many of my friends are gay.
I was introduced to my first gay couple when I was 5 yrs old. By my Parents, that was 55yrs ago.
However what I am saying is that there is a time and a place for everything. Sturtz's issues should not take over the conversation. This nation is not about meme. It is about all of us.
There is a time and place for everything, hers was not the time.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)Why not go protest Boner and the pukes. Take the rallying cry to the people that ARE holding back progress. Why is that so hard?
Why scream in the faces of those supporting you, and not to the people that are not. Call me silly but I do believe it is congress that makes the laws.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)Thats what she was protesting, that Obama still has not signed the executive order ensuring companies that do business with the federal government can not discriminate based on ones orientation that he promised to sign in 2008.
So once again, when is a good time to protest?
Edit: By the way please sign the petition urging him to follow through with his campaign promise if you have not done so already. You can find more information on it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/113727661
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)Everything is not about Ellen Sturtz. The world does not revolve around her and her issues. The stop gap measure that she wants signed, would not be worth the paper when the next President walks in and flushes it.
This President works through the courts to make bills law. Ones like DOMA.
Ellen believes that the Plight of Inner City Children, and yes that was what First Lady was addressing, are nothing! Inner City Children do not concern Ellen. It's about her and her cause , or it's nothing.
Yes that was Privilege, her issues or nothing. Privileged and arrogant.
She was rude and disrespectful to a woman that actually does support equality for all. Her mistake.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Any democrat could toss it too.
My wish is for the GOP to never gain that office again.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And what have those people done with their beards? So quickly too.
TommyCelt
(838 posts)If you're going to do so, best be prepared to get it back in spades. And certainly don't count on crowd support.
Silly rabbit...
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)decided that my full beard warranted a bit of heckling FROM the comedian.
So, he said, "Ah, Jesus! What do we have here? Fucking Moses." Got a fair laugh from the audience. I said, "Would you like me to part your waters?" I asked, in a stage voice so it could be heard. That got a much bigger laugh. The comedian left me alone for the rest of the evening.
derby378
(30,252 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)One of the most influential women in America is the victim of privilege from a second class citizen?
You know, I don't agree with the heckling of the First Lady. Time, place, etc.
But the ideological contortions involved in trying to make one of the most privileged women in America some kind of victim are unbefitting of anyone who considers themselves a liberal and a Democrat.
Michelle Obama is just fine. She enjoys a rare place in our society none of us will ever touch.
Privilege. Jesus H. Grips are in want of getting. What a perversion of a very real issue. To twist it against an LGBT activist.
Yeah, I definitely see the privilege here.
I was initially not on the side of the heckler, but lord if an awful lot of privileged heterosexual commentators aren't pushing me there.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Why is it always this talking down routine?
It reminds me of people talking down to women in general.
The way the RWers talk down to the Obamas is tiresome!
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)This is from the last paragraph~
freshwest
(53,661 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)and I plan to, not only vote, but do what I can to support candidates in other states.
Not voting can ever be an option.
freshwest