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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:24 AM Jun 2013

One day, we'll recognize the debt we owe to the likes of Amy Goodman and Bill Moyers.....


....... I'm watching Democracy Now!, covering the NSA story, talking to whistleblowers and scholars you'll never hear from on MSM.
In an era where 'news' often amounts to dictation from government or corporate spokespeople, they are beacons in the dense fog.





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One day, we'll recognize the debt we owe to the likes of Amy Goodman and Bill Moyers..... (Original Post) marmar Jun 2013 OP
Hear hear! ananda Jun 2013 #1
kr Solly Mack Jun 2013 #2
Crush a bunch of people - you'll get mostly dust - and a few diamonds Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #3
yes, but don't leave out Joe Scarborough Enrique Jun 2013 #4
Great Deal Of Information erpowers Jun 2013 #5
Two of my favorite people madokie Jun 2013 #6
I won't wait. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #7
I've always thought of Bill Moyers as the smartest man in America. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #8
Indeed he is!! lastlib Jun 2013 #14
K&R suffragette Jun 2013 #9
Absolutely! MrScorpio Jun 2013 #10
Real journalists. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #11
both of them national treasures..nt xiamiam Jun 2013 #12
Amy Goodman is my hero. vanlassie Jun 2013 #13
'honey badger' makes me think of the day she interviewed Lou Dobbs rurallib Jun 2013 #31
Well that's a honey badger for ya! vanlassie Jun 2013 #32
K&R hwmnbn Jun 2013 #15
100% Agree! Dorn Jun 2013 #16
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #17
And Pacifica Radio banned her years ago. bananas Jun 2013 #18
Pacifica executives 90-percent Jun 2013 #29
No, it's not. Zen Democrat Jun 2013 #41
I said "years ago" bananas Jun 2013 #42
K&R because I love them right now. Overseas Jun 2013 #19
+10000 heaven05 Jun 2013 #20
someday?? EVERY day since I first saw them navarth Jun 2013 #21
Best news source and journalism there is. L0oniX Jun 2013 #22
yep. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #23
Both are real journalists which is why they are not on the MSM. But right here on DU yesterday sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #24
I could have gone the rest of my life without hearing that, sabrina 1..... ReRe Jun 2013 #46
I trust both of them. xxqqqzme Jun 2013 #25
Recommend.. KoKo Jun 2013 #26
They are national treasures joelz Jun 2013 #27
Both awe inspiring journalists 90-percent Jun 2013 #28
K&R to the OP and to this reply. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2013 #44
I give monthly to Pacifica tblue Jun 2013 #30
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #33
I'll be more than happy to Kick and Rec. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #34
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #35
Two American heroes. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #36
Wonderful people. Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #37
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Jun 2013 #38
Bravo! And Thom Hartmann as well! n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #39
Love them both! K&R closeupready Jun 2013 #40
news tardybar Jun 2013 #43
Huge K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #45
Or you and me... it's not as we've been passive. nt DCKit Jun 2013 #47
Amy Goodman last year : How the NSA has gone rogue TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #48
+++++++ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ReRe Jun 2013 #51
K&R ReRe Jun 2013 #49
Recommended just on the title of the thread. PufPuf23 Jun 2013 #50
I love Amy! Kath1 Jun 2013 #52
Is the Debt Really "$222 Trillion Dollars"? Talk to me! aflame Jun 2013 #53

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
3. Crush a bunch of people - you'll get mostly dust - and a few diamonds
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:28 AM
Jun 2013

Amy in particular is a 10 carat gem.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
11. Real journalists.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jun 2013

Not like the Pravda-esque goons on MSNBC who fawn over anything Obama or the DNC do.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
31. 'honey badger' makes me think of the day she interviewed Lou Dobbs
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jun 2013

man did she take him to the wood shed.

Dorn

(523 posts)
16. 100% Agree!
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jun 2013

I agree completely and I try to spread the word about their work. I suggest everyone send Democracy Now! a couple of bucks now!

bananas

(27,509 posts)
18. And Pacifica Radio banned her years ago.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jun 2013

Some idiots took control of Pacifica and wanted to make it more like NPR.

In particular, they wanted to attract corporate financing and corporate listeners,
which meant getting rid of programs like Amy's, as well as the more eclectic programs they were known for.

They purged a lot of good programmers, including Amy Goodman.

But she kept producing her programs, they were played on independent radio stations and college stations.

For a while Roy Tuckman at KPFK played her show at 5am calling it "The Amy Goodman Hour"
(he has a radio show from midnight to 6 am, and technically it was "Democracy Now" that was banned).

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
29. Pacifica executives
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013

I hope those talented titans of media at least walked away with eight figure golden parachutes for their achievements at Pacifica!

-90% Jimmy

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
41. No, it's not.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jun 2013

My Pacifica station, KPFT in Houston, has Democracy Now live every weekend a.m. And I know for a fact that she's on Pacifica in NY, and probably elsewhere. Bottom line, she's not banned or I wouldn't have been able to listen to DN this morning on Pacifica.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
24. Both are real journalists which is why they are not on the MSM. But right here on DU yesterday
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:28 PM
Jun 2013

I was told that they are 'part of a rat pack with no credibility'.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
46. I could have gone the rest of my life without hearing that, sabrina 1.....
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jun 2013

... I didn't see it, as I was in Drs offices all day yesterday. Please point me to that thread, someone saying Amy Goodman/Bill Moyers are "...part of a rat pack with no credibility." I want to see how that went over for the dude who said it. Those two are basically a couple of the only real broadcast journalists we have left. Yeah, we can come up with others, but those two have got to be at the top of the list. Thanks!

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
28. Both awe inspiring journalists
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jun 2013

But I do want to rattle off some others that I like that are doing great work.

Thom Hartmann
Keith Olbermann
Greg Palast
Glen Greenwald,
Jeremy Scahill
Michael Moore
Rachel, Chris, Ed, Lawrence and the other MSNBC journos
Bill Maher
Jon Stewart
Steve Colbert
Ezra Klein
Naomi Klein
Paul Krugmann
Robert Reich
Chris Hedges

off the top of my head. I'm sure I left some out.

And just to give a plug to a younger person,

http://www.davidpakman.com/

I think David's an up and comer in truthful (aka "left wing&quot journalism

Amy and Bill are national treasures.

-90% Jimmy

tblue

(16,350 posts)
30. I give monthly to Pacifica
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jun 2013

even when I don't watch or listen (because I'm weary from all the outrage). Amy is a national treasure. And Bill Moyers too. Saw him in person once and I will never forget that he said campaign finance reform is the most important cause of our time. Even if it's not achieved in our lifetime, we have to work for it now. Think abolitionists.

Love them both. Good post!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. Wonderful people. Thanks.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

The government does not need to have so much disdain and fear of the people. We are a tolerant, good nation. That our government hides so much from us but is so intrusive when it comes to observing our lives is really insulting and troubling.

Government of the people, by the people and for the people. That is what we are supposed to have. We have wandered far from that ideal.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
51. +++++++ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jun 2013

You need to make and OP out of Amy's NSA article (from April 2012.) Thanks for that link. And please do OP it for more exposure!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
49. K&R
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jun 2013

One day? I do every day! Often now, when I see Amy's face and hear her report the news, I think of Walter Cronkite. Yes, she and Bill Moyers are beacons of the free press! We need a cable channel called "The Free Press" = TFP. We have a great free press. They just aren't on commercial TV, that's all. Why, we have a whole lot of good ones. Good enough that there would be very little repetition, like the MSM does. Commercials for such a cable channel (TFP) could be REAL non-profit orgs whose soul reason's for existence are social welfare projects.

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
50. Recommended just on the title of the thread.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jun 2013

Amy Goodman and Bill Moyer are flickers and morality in a neoliberal world.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
52. I love Amy!
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:51 AM
Jun 2013

She was very instrumental in my evolution from apolitical to very political.
I love that photo of her smiling and flashing the peace sign. Just a wonderful person.

aflame

(1 post)
53. Is the Debt Really "$222 Trillion Dollars"? Talk to me!
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:39 PM
Jun 2013

After the gerrymander of Indian Hill, Ohio, into district one, we may as well all be Republicans. Our views differ. Are we going forward, dealing with our fiscal problems; or, are we going back into time when only white landholders were allowed to vote, and women were less valuable than slaves, because they could not be sold.

Our government was a Plutocracy then; and, it is a Plutocracy now. It is not a representative Republic, and certainly not a democracy. Why, because most legislators and votes are hired and purchased by big money interests.

If the debt is our main problem, and it is, what is the debt? The debt we hear discussed, $16/17 Trillion dollars, is basically the annual payment on the debt. The real debt is all that has been promised to be paid, minus all that is expected as income during the time the debt exists. The real debt is “$222 Trillion” over several decades. Put that, with quotation marks, into Google and read. These are OMB figures.

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2012/12/01/economist_laurence_kotlikoff_us_222_trillion_in_debt_363.html

WE are bankrupt. There are those who can convene, who have the background, and the ideas, to dig us out of this fiscal hole, without destroying the currency, the economy, our safety nets, and our personal lives. The question is, are we willing to listen, and act? If we are to solve our problems, we must have leadership with the brains, and independence to take us there.

The diversions of abortion, birth control, gun control, and a host of other social issues, must not detract from the irresponsible fiscal management of this country. None of these issues will matter if the majority of the population is dumpster diving, and stealing food from their neighbors, due to a collapse of the economy.


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