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Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:33 PM Jun 2013

Rural colorado wants to start a new state


Colorado Secession

Several of the rural, predominantly Republican counties of North and and Northeastern Colorado are fed up with the left-leaning laws that Democrats passed this year in the state and want to split from Colorado and form the 51st state: North Colorado.

"Our very way of life is under attack," Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway said on Thursday, 9News reported.

Conway is leading the charge for Weld, Morgan, Logan, Sedgwick, Phillips, Washington, Yuma and Kit Carson counties to split off and form a new state, a plan that was formed at a Colorado Counties Inc. conference earlier this week, according to The Denver Post.

The secession plan is driven by a number of new laws passed in the Democrat-controlled legislature this year, including gun control, the curbing of perceived cruel treatment of livestock to expanded regulation of oil and gas production but the final straw was the signing of Senate Bill 252 by Gov. John Hickenlooper on Wednesday which requires an increase in renewable energy standards in rural areas.

KDVR reports that opponents of that bill have called it a "war on rural Colorado."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/rural-colorado-counties-t_n_3402284.html?ir=Politics&ref=topbar

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Rural colorado wants to start a new state (Original Post) Vietnameravet Jun 2013 OP
These people don't have any clue to realitiy Drale Jun 2013 #1
I think he meant "its to black and doesn't represent the rest of Illinois" KamaAina Jun 2013 #12
Either accept the fact this is a nation of laws, some we like and some we do not like, apparently Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #2
We have some real dip shits here in Colorado. Autumn Jun 2013 #3
Yes and they can take Texas and Oklahoma with them.. Vietnameravet Jun 2013 #5
Not if I can help it. kentauros Jun 2013 #16
well good luck with that kids! madrchsod Jun 2013 #4
Nah... their cows would know better than to take the entire herd off the cliff. hlthe2b Jun 2013 #8
Just a temper tantrum from those counties that are most "red" and can't bear the thought that DEMS hlthe2b Jun 2013 #6
Colorado is like my second state. Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #20
I don't think it is a local stimulus as much as the National Cretins are getting them stirred up.... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #21
The dumb part of the state....... rdharma Jun 2013 #7
They can't have my Colorado word. Let them call it New Idaho, or the New Confederate State librechik Jun 2013 #9
Anyone who considers guns "A way of life" has some serious personal issues to address. tridim Jun 2013 #10
Some people seem to really hate renewable energy for some odd reason arcane1 Jun 2013 #11
It's just hippie-hate. JHB Jun 2013 #17
Because the local talk radio hatefest tells them to.... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #30
Quick, someone buy these delicate flowers a fainting couch nt MrScorpio Jun 2013 #13
Uh. There's a state to the north - it's called Wyoming. Mr. David Jun 2013 #14
+1 truebluegreen Jun 2013 #18
That's right... Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #19
Lessee.. Mr. David Jun 2013 #22
You took the words right off my keyboard meow2u3 Jun 2013 #38
Oh for Heavens sake. Knock yourselves out. n/t Fla Dem Jun 2013 #15
They can call it Dumbfrackistan. bluedigger Jun 2013 #23
Actually there is a Dangerous Method to their Madness LarryNM Jun 2013 #24
And 1 US Representative. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #25
That's the only issue I can see that blocks this. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #33
It's opposite in Arizona - Baja Arizona wants out: Ptah Jun 2013 #26
"Our very way of life is under attack," Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway said on Thursday, 9News SummerSnow Jun 2013 #27
Yes they are pushing legislation preventing cruelty toward animals...seriously... Vietnameravet Jun 2013 #28
I have no problem with it Celldweller Jun 2013 #29
Sore loser crybabies Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #31
not really Celldweller Jun 2013 #32
Who's gonna pay for the border fence to keep them from illegally emigrating to the U.S.? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #34
Sean Conway was chief of staff madamesilverspurs Jun 2013 #35
I don't blame people for wanting to feel represented. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #36
Increasing renewable energy? That's it? The horror!! Initech Jun 2013 #37

Drale

(7,932 posts)
1. These people don't have any clue to realitiy
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jun 2013

some idiot Repuke in Illinois proposed lopping Chicago off as a new state because "its to blue and doesn't represent the rest of Illinois" or as I read it we don't get our way so we are going to change the rules.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Either accept the fact this is a nation of laws, some we like and some we do not like, apparently
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

the majority rules and not the minority. Turned around the other way, why should the minority rule, it should not, the majority should have their say.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
6. Just a temper tantrum from those counties that are most "red" and can't bear the thought that DEMS
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jun 2013

are in control currently.

Apparently, this BS is not so uncommon... Someone posted that similar idiots in CA similarly start stamping their little feet demanding secession--usually after water related issues. And then, of course there are the militant Xian theocrats in SC that want to do so.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
20. Colorado is like my second state.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jun 2013

Against my better judgment, I often read the Denver Post comment section, and it seems that some of our fellow residents aren't taking the state's political re-alignment very well. My questions, since you're a permanent resident: Why does it seem so different now? Why are people seemingly more angry? It's not like Colorado hasn't elected Democrats to statewide office in the past, (ex: Hart, Wirth, Campbell, Salazar) and there has only been one Republican governor in the last 45 years!

Second, if living in a blue state is such a drag, why don't these people move to one of the 5-6 red states that Colorado shares a border with?

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
21. I don't think it is a local stimulus as much as the National Cretins are getting them stirred up....
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

Between Limbot, Faux news, the NRA extremists, and the Teabaggers, it seems to me that wherever you look across the country, you are finding this increasing intolerance for any degree of divided government.

Sure, they feed on each other's ugliness and anger, but I really think the flame is being lit by these National extremist factions.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
9. They can't have my Colorado word. Let them call it New Idaho, or the New Confederate State
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jun 2013

hands off Colorful Colorado, puKKKes.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
10. Anyone who considers guns "A way of life" has some serious personal issues to address.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jun 2013

Secession isn't going to make you sane.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. It's just hippie-hate.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jun 2013

Think of it as imprinting. If their first association with it had been an All-American Freedom From Dependency thing, they'd love it, but they imprinted on it as a liberal, namby-pamby tree-hugged thing.

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
14. Uh. There's a state to the north - it's called Wyoming.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

It's as conservative as you want. Move over there. and stroke your goddamn guns there.

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
19. That's right...
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jun 2013

Not only Wyoming, but Colorado shares borders with about a half dozen of the reddest states in the union. Pick one!

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
22. Lessee..
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jun 2013

Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, (skips New Mexico, as it's a blue state), Arizona, Utah. In the clockwise order.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
38. You took the words right off my keyboard
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jun 2013

Why don't they just move to Wyoming and leave Colorado to the real Americans?

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
23. They can call it Dumbfrackistan.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jun 2013

They think they have a sustainable economy based on agriculture (cows) and energy (fracking).

LarryNM

(493 posts)
24. Actually there is a Dangerous Method to their Madness
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jun 2013

Each State in our antiquated system has 2 U S Senators.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
33. That's the only issue I can see that blocks this.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

As far as state politics, I would love it if western Washington and western Oregon became one super blue state, and let the eastern halves become one red state. The effect on the national stage is that two senators would go red (WA and OR are reliably blue) but the local effects would be so cool, a liberal Mecca in the Northwest would be created...

Ptah

(33,029 posts)
26. It's opposite in Arizona - Baja Arizona wants out:
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jun 2013


An enormous mistake was made on December 30, 1853 when the Gadsden Treaty
was signed between the United States and Mexico. The northern part of the Mexican
state of Sonora, an area located south of the Gila River, was purchased by the United States,
and tacked into what became the State of Arizona.

The people of the Gadsden Purchase have increasingly chafed under the domination of
an enormous population in an around Phoenix (Maricopa County). In order to end the
domination of Phoenix, the people of the Gadsden Purchase are seeking statehood.
Proclaiming themselves as Baja Arizona, a "state of mind" is acknowledged to exist.

The primary differences between Baja Arizona and the remainder of Arizona are of attitude
and tolerance. The people of Baja Arizona are known throughout the southwest for their
enlightened view of the world. This is obviously not the case with the passaged of SB 1070
making it illegal to be an illegal in Arizona.

In Baja Arizona people fight for civil rights. In Maricopa County they are jailing immigrants.





http://www.bandersnatch.com/bajaz.htm

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
27. "Our very way of life is under attack," Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway said on Thursday, 9News
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jun 2013

Ok so how is your way of life under attack? Give examples please.



 

Celldweller

(186 posts)
29. I have no problem with it
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jun 2013

While you're at it let Northern Illinois split from Southern Illinois and North Virginia from the rest of Virginia and NYC from NYS... oh and Austin can be a state too.

Who says people can't organize themselves as they see fit?




 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
31. Sore loser crybabies
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:32 PM
Jun 2013

Lose elections, demand secession. No different than the teabagger dooshbags in Texas.

Sore fucking losers.

Also, some Southerners are still pissed about getting their asses kicked in the civil war.

These people are deranged and cannot be taken seriously.

 

Celldweller

(186 posts)
32. not really
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

Why must Austin-ites and San Antonians live under TeaPublican rule?

Why is Tucson in Arizona?

There are MANY vibrant BLUE areas in bright RED states. Does Atlanta resemble Georgia? Or NVA the rest of Virginia?
How about PA? Take away Philadelphia and PA is stuck in 1955.

madamesilverspurs

(15,803 posts)
35. Sean Conway was chief of staff
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 07:56 PM
Jun 2013

to Sen. Wayne Allard, who was repeatedly awarded Most Useless status in the Senate. Apple didn't fall far from that tree.

The Weld County Commission has been entirely Republican for twenty years; they think they own the place, and are having a hizzy fit because other parts of the state won't roll over and play stupid for them. This bunch of putzes supports the sheriff who insists he will NOT enforce the new gun laws, they are working to ignore the new marijuana laws, they have banned emergency contraceptives (claiming they cause abortions), they have handed the county over to drillers who have brought us over 20K wells with a couple hundred wells newly permitted WITHIN CITY LIMITS and are complaining that requests for drillsite safety inspections are "crippling" the oil industry. There is exactly one Democratic legislator from this area, and they deem that to be an egregious threat to "their way of life".

While others look at the national 'scandals' and decide to leave the party in protest, I can think of no action that would please our local Republicans more. We just spent another afternoon digging in our heels -- bigtime. We ain't nearly done.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
36. I don't blame people for wanting to feel represented.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jun 2013

Their "solution" seems extreme and difficult to attain, but at least it's peaceful.

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