You're right.

[WilliamPitt]

It's all a big conspiracy to make Obama look bad.

[In_The_Wind]

1. Oh hell!

[gulliver]

2. And Karl Rove is going to jail when?

[opiate69]

5. ...

[wandy]

7. Jail, probably not. But Karl Rove is sure laughing his ass off right about now. nt

[randome]

10. {Cough!} {Cough!} {Hack!}

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[NYC_SKP]

3. Actually, our guys engineered the leak to bring this shit to the surface.

We win.

We need a better congress.

[L0oniX]

15. I'm still wondering how old news gets leaked.

[ProSense]

4. Actually,

"It's all a big conspiracy to make Obama look bad."

...Obama is worse than Bush.

[WilliamPitt]

6. You do a poor Third-Way Manny

[trumad]

8. nobody does Manny like Manny.

[JHB]

33. He's practically an unnatural act!

[RainDog]

9. It's been so interesting to read the frantic spinning on this site

Compared to articles and comments on various news sites (none of them conservative ones.)

Rather than acknowledge that people are rightly pissed about this issue - and HAVE BEEN since Bush took office - the greatest concern of some here is how this issue impacts the party or the president.

To ignore the valid concerns just comes off as complicit in the unconstitutional exercise of power.

I hope this moment allows the U.S. to re-evaluate policies that have been in place since the passage of the Patriot Act.

If it takes republicans who so hate the current president and who try to use this to harm him as a way to make conservatives give a fuck and apply pressure to a Republican Congress to address this, then something good will have come out of this moment.

Beyond the DU bubble, however, people are pissed. At overreach by govt. intelligence services, at the complicity of corporations, and they're pissed about their own inability to have any impact upon what the govt. does "in our name."

[randome]

11. Do you have any evidence that people outside the DU bubble are pissed?

Not trying to be a smart-ass but my guess is that the word 'metadata' means little to most so they aren't sure how to react to it.

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[RainDog]

13. I initially talked about reading other news sites

Slate, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The New York Times, Common Dreams... those are sites where I have read articles and comments and to which I compare the this forum.

Facebook shares and comments on them also reflect comments on those media sites.

Metadata is, in fact, a concept that many understand, both on the comments and from people with whom I am friends.

I know a lot of librarians. Metadata has been the big topic in archives for a decade, beyond this current moment.

People who read those sites, and many of my friends, generally have comments that are smarter than the average bear.

[KoKo]

23. Agree...Informed people are upset...and Govt. has to (at some point) listen to the

"Informed People" because they are the ones who will have influence.

[WillyT]

14. I'm Pretty Sure This Author Is Not In The DU Bubble...

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022973186

[Matariki]

12. you are so correct

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spinning like crazy and as predictable as sunrise.

[WillyT]

17. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Icepick to the forehead. nm

[jazzimov]

18. Apparently, it was!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/08/dni-declassifies-prism-data-collection-nsa-secret-program-obama/2403999/

Parts of NSA's PRISM program declassified

"PRISM is not an undisclosed collection or data mining program," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a fact sheet on the program.

http://swampland.time.com/2013/06/08/obama-administration-declassifies-details-on-prism-blasts-reckless-media-and-leakers/

Obama Administration Declassifies Details On “PRISM,” Blasts “Reckless” Media And Leakers

Following near-simultaneous reports from the Guardian and the Washington Post this week, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that contrary to press reports, “PRISM is not an undisclosed collection or data mining program.” He maintained that the government computer system is authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and is overseen by all three branches of the federal government. He said that the program does not target US citizens or anyone known to be in the United States, and pushed back on reports that the government has continuous access to Internet companies’ systems.

“Service providers supply information to the Government when they are lawfully required to do so,” he said.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/06/08/obama-administration-declassifies-details-on-prism-blasts-reckless-media-and-leakers/#ixzz2VfqQIyyi

[sabrina 1]

19. We are talking about the Telecoms, Verizon, collecting info on all of their customers.

Prism is a different story. According to the President, the information on the Verizon spying story was 'leaked' and according to some reports, the DOJ is considering going after the whistle blower who leaked it. So according to the President, it was a secret program leaked by a whistle blower. Is he lying? One doesn't have to leak 'old news' as far as I know.

[Cha]

34. Details Details, jazzimov.. doesn't fit in with meme.

Thanks for the links.

[Curmudgeoness]

21. Bwahahahahaha.

One post and you know where William Pitt comes from?

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

[hrmjustin]

22. Your coming here on your first post accusing a long time member of being a troll.

Not good form.

[Ed Suspicious]

24. I suspect that's where you're from, poster. That is an odd and disturbing place. nt

[MNBrewer]

29. OH dear

I voted wrong on that post. I was the "leave it", but... in my "several beers to the wind" state I failed to realize that "leave it" was the opposite of what I intended.

[hrmjustin]

31. I have done that once or twice lol.

[Fumesucker]

25. Welcome to DU!

I hope you enjoy your stay.

[Phlem]

27. C'mon

It's his first post. Give the guy a break. We'll nail him on his second post.



-p

[Fumesucker]

28. I say that to everyone

[olddots]

26. you're the one who came up with your link

[quinnox]

30. it is bizarre the lengths some of the truly devoted will go to

up to and including massive conspiracy theories involving all the media. Apparently Greenwald is the head of the Illuminati and in control, or something.

[Cha]

32. PBO doesn't look "bad".. except to those who want him

to.

He's the same as he ever was.. doing a damn good job in the face of Enemies here and abroad... and an obstructionist do nothing Congress.