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William769

(55,146 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:17 AM Jun 2013

WTF happeded to gas prices?

Last edited Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)

I am in N. Fort Myers Florida & gas prices have been holding steady for awhile now @3.35 a gallon. Just got back from the store & all gas stations in my area are @3.60 a gallon! 25 cents since lasy night.

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WTF happeded to gas prices? (Original Post) William769 Jun 2013 OP
Thanks, Obama! onehandle Jun 2013 #1
In my locale, Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #2
That is the case in NE MN also. I don't think Obama is involved. jwirr Jun 2013 #5
Ya think? Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #8
I heard that gas is over 4 dollars a gallon in Ohio. William769 Jun 2013 #10
try this site for current gas prices: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #14
Thanks. William769 Jun 2013 #15
As to WHY they go up and down over night.... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #24
$3.99 last I looked. madmom Jun 2013 #18
Close enough. William769 Jun 2013 #20
Yep, and that's for the low grade. madmom Jun 2013 #21
If was in Dayton last week and it was 3.99/gal. It is even higher in Indiana... madinmaryland Jun 2013 #22
It's been in the 3.80 range for a week or so here. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #3
I'll be heading to S.E Kentucky next month William769 Jun 2013 #6
I'm in Louisville Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #11
I feel for you. William769 Jun 2013 #13
It's been a while since I passed through Elizabethtown Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #23
Just a thought.... clarice Jun 2013 #4
I know a speculator wercal Jun 2013 #32
Thanks so much wercal....very informative. nt clarice Jun 2013 #35
Maybe somebody wants you to look the other way - 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #7
Thats not the way to do it. William769 Jun 2013 #9
There are 2 refineries hamster Jun 2013 #12
I just noticed yesterday that my local station had fallen below $4 for the first time petronius Jun 2013 #16
I almost stopped last night for a full-up but didn't because of rain. William769 Jun 2013 #19
it's just the coup keeping it real datasuspect Jun 2013 #17
The frog has been boiling for a while now. Javaman Jun 2013 #25
Summer gas with ethanol? Renew Deal Jun 2013 #26
SE WI prices jumped about $0.30 last week... HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #27
Over $4.00 here in Cleveland liberal N proud Jun 2013 #28
Summer driving season has started. Gas always peaks now. Auggie Jun 2013 #29
$3.42 today in Kansas wercal Jun 2013 #30
Shell regular is still $3.20 in S.Texas. oneshooter Jun 2013 #31
$4.49 last week, $4.69 this week in Chicago WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2013 #33
$4.25 in Central Indiana ... Myrina Jun 2013 #34
The Koch Brothers' house is dirty. They need to buy a clean one. Initech Jun 2013 #36

Cirque du So-What

(25,933 posts)
2. In my locale,
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jun 2013

NE Ohio, the recent spike in prices is blamed on problems with refinery production. I have no idea what accounts for higher prices in your area.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. As to WHY they go up and down over night....
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jun 2013

tht is called price fixing, has been that way for a long time now, and NO investigation is allowed.
Just part of the general rot that has become America..
well, the globe, actually.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
3. It's been in the 3.80 range for a week or so here.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jun 2013

I'm in Kentucky, I have friends in Tennessee and their is always less. I haven't figured out why, or why we may be higher than other larger more densely populated citys and states as well.

William769

(55,146 posts)
6. I'll be heading to S.E Kentucky next month
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jun 2013

Just checked with a cousin of mine and it's still @3.28 a gallon in Middlesboro. I hope it stays there.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
11. I'm in Louisville
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:30 AM
Jun 2013

We always get gouged here. It gets steeper the closer you get to the down town area but it's high even on the edge of the county and surrounding small cities.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
23. It's been a while since I passed through Elizabethtown
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:17 PM
Jun 2013

It was still quaint and quiet. I more recently visited Owenboro and there is a lot happening there. Restoration and revitalization of the water front area. I ate at the famous Moonlite BBQ Inn, amazing.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
4. Just a thought....
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013

IMO The SEC should remove oil and natural gas from the commodities exchange. Half of the "gas price problem" is
caused by these speculators manipulating the prices.

wercal

(1,370 posts)
32. I know a speculator
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

Actually I know several. These people are in the construction industry. It is possible for them to lock in a price and buy the equivalent of fuel futures from refineries. Fuel costs are a very large part of the cost of moving dirt, and 90% of the cost of making asphalt...so the recent years of volatility have people spooked. And when they get spooked, they drive up the cost by paying more than market rate, to lock in and hedge against future price spikes. After a while, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I don't know for a fact...but I imagine fleets of all types (Fed Ex trucks, Wal-Mart Tractor Trailers, American Airline planes) 'speculate' on fuel prices in a very similar manner.

One very impracticle way to stop this is to require actual fuel delivery, before payment is made. This might be a huge hindrance for a truck fleet owner...but it also makes it difficult for 'Johnny come lately commodities trader' to try and ride the wave and push prices up more. But, this is very impractical...unless the refiners would be willing to extend lines of credit worth tens of millions of dollars to people who can't take immediate delivery.


 

hamster

(101 posts)
12. There are 2 refineries
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jun 2013

in Toledo Ohio. Every year, they shut down and change over to their summer blend.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
16. I just noticed yesterday that my local station had fallen below $4 for the first time
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jun 2013

in a while (and it was a noticeable drop). Now I'm curious to see if it popped back up, I might regret not stopping...

William769

(55,146 posts)
19. I almost stopped last night for a full-up but didn't because of rain.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jun 2013

Won't make that mistake again.

I drive people to the doctors that have HIV?AIDS that can't afford or are to ill to drive and our public transit here is well almost non existent.

I do not charge for this for the simple fact if I am ever in this predicament, I would hope there was someone there to help me. I guess this is one reason I'm really ticked off right now.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
25. The frog has been boiling for a while now.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jun 2013

funny that $3.30 to $3.50 is considered the norm now?

give it time, $3.75 to $4.00 will be the new norm.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
27. SE WI prices jumped about $0.30 last week...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jun 2013

I read that it was because refineries were COMING on line after maintenance.

BOY!!!!!!!! They (the Kock Bros.) sure must have faced some expensive maintenance!

Poor boys! Look what they gotta do to break even!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wercal

(1,370 posts)
30. $3.42 today in Kansas
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

We actually benefit from a glut of midwest and Canadian oil that hits US refineries in Chicago and St. Louis. If Keystone goes in, that oil hits the international market, and we start paying higher prices like the rest of the country.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
34. $4.25 in Central Indiana ...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jun 2013

Thank your stars for $3.60!!

There was a rumor a couple weeks back about a refinery that may or may not have been buying product from others because it didn't have enough of its own or something broke or someone farted or something ... but basically its the same old gouge & grab bullshit.

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