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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:08 AM Jun 2013

Chart: How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington




From its origins as a management consulting firm, Booz Allen has quietly grown into a governmentwide contracting behemoth, fed by ballooning post-Sept. 11 intelligence budgets and Washington’s increasing reliance on outsourcing.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-13/chart-how-booz-allen-hamilton-swallowed-washington



AND ITS OWNED BY THE CARLYLE GROUP..... YOUR NEOCON FRIEND.


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Chart: How Booz Allen Hamilton Swallowed Washington (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 OP
du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #1
Here you go! MrScorpio Jun 2013 #2
Booz Allen. timdog44 Jun 2013 #3
U.S. Agencies Said to Swap Data With Thousands of Firms Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #5
And that is just about timdog44 Jun 2013 #6
the list of current/former members of the company tells us all: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #22
PLUS ONE! nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #28
Sounds like we got bamboozled MattBaggins Jun 2013 #4
Sadlly, timdog44 Jun 2013 #7
Wow. It just keeps growing. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #8
link please? ellennelle Jun 2013 #9
It is in the OP. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #11
Is Poppy Bush still on the board of the Carlyle Group? DURHAM D Jun 2013 #10
Excellent information. Thanks. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #12
Hey conservatives keep cutting the number and pay of government nineteen50 Jun 2013 #13
It's their policy atreides1 Jun 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #14
I would like to know DURHAM D Jun 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #19
Yes. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #20
Depends on the contract atreides1 Jun 2013 #23
MONEY TRUMPS PEACE. Octafish Jun 2013 #16
K&R Hugin Jun 2013 #17
Seize the assests and nationalize the company for security reasons. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #18
Maybe you can show us other companies atreides1 Jun 2013 #24
do you work for BAH? Skittles Jun 2013 #26
Moore warned us of the Carlyle Group a long time ago, not like we can do anything harun Jun 2013 #25
owned by our pals THE CARLYLE GROUP spanone Jun 2013 #27

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
3. Booz Allen.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:26 AM
Jun 2013

Exactly what I have been saying in all my posts. Spy agency for hire. No patriotism, no principles, only $$$$. And when someone comes along and gives them more $$$$ all our secrets go along with them if they are not already selling them.

And everyone's undies are in a knot about our constitutional rights. Think about the corporate espionage they are most likely doing for the Koch brothers, for GE, for big oil, big ag, and big pharma. What innovations that we deserve as Americans have been thwarted by this corporate espionage. Better food, better energy sources, better and cheaper medications. And the list goes on.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. U.S. Agencies Said to Swap Data With Thousands of Firms
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:41 AM
Jun 2013

Thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies, providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence, four people familiar with the process said.

These programs, whose participants are known as trusted partners, extend far beyond what was revealed by Edward Snowden, a computer technician who did work for the National Security Agency. The role of private companies has come under intense scrutiny since his disclosure this month that the NSA is collecting millions of U.S. residents’ telephone records and the computer communications of foreigners from Google Inc (GOOG). and other Internet companies under court order.

Many of these same Internet and telecommunications companies voluntarily provide U.S. intelligence organizations with additional data, such as equipment specifications, that don’t involve private communications of their customers,


http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-06-13/u-dot-s-dot-agencies-said-to-swap-data-with-thousands-of-firms

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
6. And that is just about
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:47 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:19 AM - Edit history (1)

a whole other problem. What with all these companies working so close with our "protectors". I know the surveillance communities are linked with several other countries, and then exchange data. One country spies on us, we spy on another and on down the line. And then the official language can be that we are spying not on our own people. Someone turned me on to ECHELON. Just do a Wiki search and see what that is all about.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. the list of current/former members of the company tells us all:
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:45 AM
Jun 2013

from Government:
( Note esp. Dove Zakheim....One of the original members of PNAC, pals with Wolfowitz and Feith and Rumsfeld)

Wendy Alexander – Labour Party Leader and Member of the Scottish Parliament (MSP)

Thad Allen – former Coast Guard Admiral Commandant of the United States Coast Guard

Miles Axe Copeland, Jr. – a prominent U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operative who was one of the
founding members of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) under William Donovan.

Karol Joseph "Bo" Bobko – Retired United States Air Force officer and a former USAF and NASA astronaut.

James R. Clapper – Director of National Intelligence, formally Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence,
Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Director of the Defense Intelligence
Agency, and Lieutenant General in the US Air Force

Keith R. Hall – Director, National Reconnaissance Office (1997–2001); formerly Executive Director for
Intelligence Community Affairs

Steve Isakowitz – Department of Energy Chief Financial Officer. Former Deputy Associate Administrator, NASA,
2002–2005

William Benjamin "Bill" Lenoir (Ph.D.) – Former NASA astronaut.

George E. Little – Media Relations, Central Intelligence Agency (2007–)

John M. McConnell – Director of National Intelligence (2007–2009); formerly Director of the National Security
Agency (1992–96); retired in 1996 as Vice Admiral, United States Navy[70]

Todd Park- current Chief Technology Officer of the United States and former CTO of the Department
of Health and Human Services

Michael C. Mullen – Assistant Commissioner, U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Patrick Gorman – Chief Information Officer (CIO), and Assistant Deputy Director National Intelligence
Strategy, Plans, and Policy, ODNI

Andrew Turnbull – Member, House of Lords (upper Parliament), United Kingdom (2005–);
Head of British Civil Service (2002–2005)


Melissa Hathaway – Director, National Cyber Security Initiative

General Frederick Frank Woerner, Jr. – Retired United States Army general and
former commander of United States Southern Command.


Dov Zakheim – Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) (2001–04)

this is just the list of Government people..
there is also a list of business people, essentially a Who's Who of the Corproate world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton#Notable_members_and_alumni




Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Wow. It just keeps growing.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:51 AM
Jun 2013

A Whole Lot of shit is unraveling. Be interesting to watch the Corporate State swing into damage-control mode.

What they need is a major distraction.

A nice little war somewhere in the Middle East, anyone?

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
10. Is Poppy Bush still on the board of the Carlyle Group?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:18 AM
Jun 2013

I guess he no longer needs to receive his daily security briefings from government employees as he can just get directly them from his Booz employees. Maybe he gets both.

I read somewhere during Bush Junior's tenure that his father was the only former President who had continued the practice for such a length of time.

I always assumed it had more to do with making money than concern for national security.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
13. Hey conservatives keep cutting the number and pay of government
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jun 2013

and it just hires private at greater costs and less security.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
21. It's their policy
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jun 2013

Smaller government...if they would get off their knees and use their heads for something besides a hatrack they would see that opening up these positions for government employees would in the long term cost less then what's being paid now.

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
15. I would like to know
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jun 2013

if they have cost plus contracts or fixed rate. My guess is that they are cost plus and they are not audited.

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #15)

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
20. Yes.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jun 2013

It is time for women to take over and see what they can do to clean it up. At this point I think the country would be very responsive to a female president/v-president ticket.

It is time for Uncle Sam to have a sex change to Aunt Samantha.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
23. Depends on the contract
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

From my understanding the government contracts list a price and the number of personnel needed...if a contract is for 2 million and they need 5 bodies, the company gets 1.5 million and the personnel are paid with what remains...but that also covers medical insurance, and other employee "perks"!

I would suggest that anyone who wants to see what the pay range is for intel personnel that work for the government...go to USAJobs.gov, and just look at some of the intel positions...you'll find that they pay about the same rate that many contractors are getting.

harun

(11,348 posts)
25. Moore warned us of the Carlyle Group a long time ago, not like we can do anything
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jun 2013

about it though. It isn't like we live in a Democracy.

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