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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:35 AM Jun 2013

You always scream the loudest with your last gasp.

Last edited Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

A woman records her own racist tirade at a Dunkin Donuts and then uploads it to YouTube, thinking she did the right thing.

A Cheerios ad featuring a biracial couple causes one of the more remarkable racist freak-outs in recent memory.

An 11-year-old Mexican-American boy sings the national anthem at a sporting event wearing a mariachi outfit, and Twitter erupts with racist bilge.

Yahoos all over the country are stockpiling weapons...and the New York Times reports that White deaths are outpacing White births in America for the first time.

Sensing a pattern?

The paradigm is changing, and the now-receding alpha dogs do not like it one little bit.

You always scream the loudest with your last gasp.

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You always scream the loudest with your last gasp. (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2013 OP
Very insightful. I agree. The attitudes of Americans have changed rapidly. Laelth Jun 2013 #1
Silent Majority Still Healthy PNW_Dem Jun 2013 #28
Interesting. Laelth Jun 2013 #29
I think that the reason we have won on cultural issues is that the 1% doesn't care about them eridani Jun 2013 #33
Oh, indeed. This is still an oligarchy. Laelth Jun 2013 #34
gawd, I sure hope that what we're witnessing. bigtree Jun 2013 #2
Dam Straight Cigar11 Jun 2013 #3
But also, an animal is most dangerous when cornered phantom power Jun 2013 #4
Also true CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #5
I am very concerned about a possible pending RW extremist coup, like in "The Handmaid's Tale": Zorra Jun 2013 #6
Margret Atwood is Canadian siligut Jun 2013 #15
Lord Dog, I hope it is the last gasp... truebluegreen Jun 2013 #7
I hope you are right. Gore1FL Jun 2013 #8
Republican voters are a shrinking demographic SecularMotion Jun 2013 #9
And most of them live outside urban centers Amonester Jun 2013 #21
They will hold off the inevitable with Gerrymandering & voter suppression for a while. sellitman Jun 2013 #35
And the closer the loss of that alpha status, the more dangerous they will become. cliffordu Jun 2013 #10
Through no choice of my own Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #11
Me, too. dgibby Jun 2013 #36
Are these the alpha dogs with Jesus on their buttholes? KittyWampus Jun 2013 #12
and I thought this post was about Sister Sarah Va Lefty Jun 2013 #13
Good to remember that things change, including who holds the alpha position ... Scuba Jun 2013 #14
love it! northoftheborder Jun 2013 #16
You sir, are an optimist existentialist Jun 2013 #17
I'd like to be an optimist too. AlbertCat Jun 2013 #19
I remember my argument RWnuts caseymoz Jun 2013 #18
This scream is louder than the previous ones? Igel Jun 2013 #20
Like I always say: A mad dog is at its worst. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #22
Social media: Biggest misnomer of the 21st Century. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #23
"change in the weather.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #24
I agree 100 percent arely staircase Jun 2013 #25
Tell it like it is: formercia Jun 2013 #26
Just as a matter of experience, most people die with a whimper 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #27
Oh yes DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #30
As a minority that intermarried with a white man Rozlee Jun 2013 #31
I'm caucasian,and I look at your mixed heritage grandchildren and my dgibby Jun 2013 #37
None of us have a crystal ball bluedeathray Jun 2013 #32

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Very insightful. I agree. The attitudes of Americans have changed rapidly.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
Jun 2013

We, the left, did this. The right does not like it. On all the great cultural issues of our day, the left has already won. It's just a matter of time before our cultural victories become fully encoded in the law.

On the economic issues, we have lost--though we keep fighting, to our credit, because we are right and we have been right all along.

-Laelth

PNW_Dem

(119 posts)
28. Silent Majority Still Healthy
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jun 2013

What’s interesting is that we still have a very healthy “silent majority”. However, it’s the opposite of what it was when Richard Nixon popularized the phrase. I count myself as part of the new silent majority as do, I assume, many other folks on DU. Silent Majority now = secular, post-racial, level-headed America. Thank "God"

eridani

(51,907 posts)
33. I think that the reason we have won on cultural issues is that the 1% doesn't care about them
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:12 AM
Jun 2013

At least not unless they can be used to divide the 99%, and the 1% are fully cognizant that they have exceeded their expiration dates for that purpose. The DLC in fact coordinated the successful defense of marriage equality last year.

Democrats need to be more than Republicans who are good on social issues IMO.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
34. Oh, indeed. This is still an oligarchy.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:17 AM
Jun 2013

The only reason the left has won on all the great cultural issues of our time is because the 1% agrees with us. The reason we keep sliding back towards the 19th century in terms of economic policy is because the 1% disagrees with us. Our task, then, is to convince the 1% that it's in their best interests to share the wealth and to work toward a more just and equal society. Since Reagan, that argument has had little or no persuasive power.

-Laelth

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
2. gawd, I sure hope that what we're witnessing.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jun 2013

It sure looks like much of this stuff is piling up at a dead end . . . of course, it's all too prescient for those caught up and in the way of it.

I'm still amazed at the resiliency of racist expressions and their adoption by a new generation of American bigots. It's hard to imagine a point where these hateful things aren't occurring, but, it is possible to envision a point where there's much less tolerance for it all. I think that's what we may be witnessing.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
4. But also, an animal is most dangerous when cornered
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jun 2013

I feel unsure which metaphor is most applicable. Hopefully yours!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
6. I am very concerned about a possible pending RW extremist coup, like in "The Handmaid's Tale":
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:55 AM
Jun 2013
The Handmaid's Tale is set in the near future in the Republic of Gilead, a country formed within the borders of what was formerly the United States of America. It was founded by a racist, homophobic, Christian nativist-derived, theocratic-organized cult's military coup as an ideologically-driven response to the country's ecological, physical and social degradation.

Beginning with a staged terrorist attack (blamed on Islamic extremist terrorists) that kills the President and most of Congress, a movement calling itself the "Sons of Jacob" launches a revolution and suspends the United States Constitution under the pretext of restoring order.

They were quickly able to take away all of the women's rights, largely attributed to the financial records being stored electronically and labelled by gender. The new theocratic military dictatorship-styled "The Republic of Gilead", moved quickly to consolidate its power and reorganize society along a new militarized, hierarchical, compulsorily cult-Christian regime of selectively skewed Old Testament-inspired social and religious ultra-conservatism among its newly created social classes. In this society, almost all women are forbidden to read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale

siligut

(12,272 posts)
15. Margret Atwood is Canadian
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013

I was vacationing in Canada when the twin towers were hit and a conversation with the hotel owners led to their concern over the growing white supremacist groups in the US.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
7. Lord Dog, I hope it is the last gasp...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jun 2013

we have a lot of work to do and we need these people to get out of the way.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
21. And most of them live outside urban centers
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jun 2013

and sometimes quite far from suburban communities as well.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
35. They will hold off the inevitable with Gerrymandering & voter suppression for a while.
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:01 AM
Jun 2013

But sooner or later they will change or be left in the dust.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
11. Through no choice of my own
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jun 2013

I was born into the ethnicity now approaching minority status. Looking back at the horrific messes created by those at the pinnacle of power within that ethnicity, it's apparent to me that the reins of authority would benefit from guidance by different hands, realizing that all progress made in the area of human rights since European ascendancy occurred in spite of the reactionaries who would have called all the shots if they could.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
17. You sir, are an optimist
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

I'd like to be an optimist too.

I hope you are correct, it will take a little bit more to convince me.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
18. I remember my argument RWnuts
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jun 2013

Who said our country was just so-over racism and people who complained about it were just "picking at a scab." I told them I was stunned anyone could be so ignorant.

Now the Internet has provided us with documented proof. I just wish I could be right about something happy for a change.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
20. This scream is louder than the previous ones?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jun 2013

Lynchings?

Bombings?

Widespread discrimination?

A commercial got a few thousand Internet postings in condemnation. Out of millions of viewers and netizens. And this is worse than what went before?

In class I point out something that happened 5 years ago and my kids say, "But we were only 12 then!"--meaning that it's ancient history and can't possibly be relevant to their high-tech cutting edge happening lives, so their immediate impressions and likes and outrage surely trump things like 20 million killed in the USSR, the Rwandan genocide, or even Katrina.

The race paradigm started changing after the war and it's been an ongoing change since then. And by "the war" I don't mean something like Vietnam or WWII. Civil. Everybody can find something to dislike. Everybody can find something to like. De gustibus.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
23. Social media: Biggest misnomer of the 21st Century.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:27 PM
Jun 2013

When people over 14 years of age are venting their guts out using instant messaging communication means like Twitter, it's no wonder then that those same people want instant gratification.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
27. Just as a matter of experience, most people die with a whimper
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jun 2013

I have seen a number of people die. Mostly they were quiet, many, at least of those who could speak, said they were cold, not not a one of they went out screaming. Mostly they just go out with a whimper

Nope, in my experience people do not scream the loudest with their last breath, they usually scream the loudest when they are about to do something very stupid. Often lethally stupid.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
30. Oh yes
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jun 2013

sadly, 2016 will likely not be a watershed as it will be between Christie and Hillary, but that will be the final, last gasp, what needs to be hurried along is the other shoe, where the old ways of thinking actualy DIE, and are not just entrusted to people who do not look like the majority, but think like it (ala Obama and Booker).

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
31. As a minority that intermarried with a white man
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jun 2013

I feel a little conflicted looking at my mixed heritage grandchildren. You can't even see the Hispanic blood in most of them with their blond locks and combinations of green, blue and hazel eyes. My half-Japanese step-daughter married a white man herself and was wondering where her 3-year-old came up with his strawberry blond hair when no one on either side of their families is a ginger. I think many whites aren't going away. Many of them are just going to get really easy tans.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
37. I'm caucasian,and I look at your mixed heritage grandchildren and my
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

mixed-heritage gg niece and pray they will change the world for the better.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
32. None of us have a crystal ball
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 06:29 AM
Jun 2013

Especially in terms of social change. When the tipping point is reached. Change occurs.

I pray, as a "white yahoo", that this is correct. It's way overdue.

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