POLL: How long will it be before Jerrold Nadler comes out and says he misunderstood... (UPDATED)

[Tx4obama]

Last edited Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:54 PM - Edit history (1)

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Update Rep. Nadler in a statement to BuzzFeed says: “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/video-congressman-claims-he-was-told-government-could-listen

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UPDATE: Nadler walked back his comments in a statement to BuzzFeed on Sunday. “I am pleased that the administration has reiterated that, as I have always believed, the NSA cannot listen to the content of Americans’ phone calls without a specific warrant," he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/nsa-phone-calls-warrant_n_3448299.html

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[Junkdrawer]

1. How long will it take to put the NSA story back in the toothpaste tube?

[RobertEarl]

2. Never

Can you believe the OP? What a pile of cockamamie bs.

Sign of a severe deluded agenda there.

[CakeGrrl]

4. There IS a basis for the OP's question.

It's not just wishful speculation. Read around.

HuffPo was screaming the "NSA Admits Listening to Phone Calls" lede on its front page, as they are wont to do. They disappeared it right quick.

Actually, they buried it down the page and made a little change to the headline:

CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To U.S. Phone Calls Without Warrant Faces Skepticism:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/nsa-phone-calls-warrant_n_3448299.html

[RobertEarl]

6. Just a deluded agenda.. or as you say: wishful speculation

But yeah, if they get to Nadler and scare him bad enough.....he may break.

[CakeGrrl]

8. The original claim is falling apart already, but stick with the conspiracy theory

[RobertEarl]

14. Eh?

You think the NSA can't tap your phone?

Of course you know they can tap your phone.

So what makes you think they do not tap your phone?

What evidence have you that the NSA does not tap your phone.

These are pretty simple and easy questions.... can you answer simply?

[CakeGrrl]

22. What evidence do you have that they're listening to YOU?

And I mean, listening, not just scanning the metadata?

I guess it's a matter of how paranoid people are going to be about this and what - today, tomorrow, or next month - should Joe Average be DOING? Hiding in a bunker? Running around holding their head with worry?

Or snarking at and namecalling people on messageboards because that's oh-so-activist?

[RobertEarl]

25. I knew you wouldn't answer

That is the way you are.

They can tap your phone. They will tap your phone. That's their fucking job.

You are all over the board dancing here and there and not answering easy questions.

What is your agenda?

[CakeGrrl]

30. You're funny.

You push your assumption and challenge me to agree.

I challenged back. You didn't answer MY question either.

It's interesting that people accept the most sensational / damning claims about this issue as gospel and attack any follow-up that might debunk the original assertions - along with attacking and name calling the people who dare not march in lockstep with their anger or reverence for the Greenwald/Snowden tandem. Ironic.

There are many ANGRY people here, and the thing is, none of the other members of this forum are causing the problems that have them (and you?) freaked out.

Unlike some others, I guess I've learned to let the "news" cycles spin out longer than the first reports. We've just witnessed what happened with the non-scandals of the previous few weeks, but people are right on the bandwagon again.

[Tx4obama]

10. Or no one will get to him. He can just realize that he made a mistake and fess up to it. n/t

[Whisp]

19. was there a recording of him actually saying that

or is it another example of exceptional journalism at work?

[Tx4obama]

21. I don't know. All I know is that 'he' is the only one saying it and only in that CNET article.

And I haven't seen any mainstream websites pick up on it.

IF it was true and could be backed up you'd think that it would be all over all the news websites.




Edited to add the article link below...

CNET Story Alleging NSA Can Listen To U.S. Phone Calls Without Warrant Faces Skepticism:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/nsa-phone-calls-warrant_n_3448299.html

[Whisp]

27. thanks. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Who is that and what did he say? Is that the Subway sandwich guy?

There is a Democratic Congressman from NY by the name of Jerrold Nadler. Any relation?

[Tx4obama]

7. The Dem rep from NY, link below

A link below to the CNET article that everyone is talking about and many have jumped to the conclusion it is true.
I believe it is false due to Nadler misunderstanding what he heard.
There is no other person or source saying that the NSA ever said such a thing.

Here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/

[Bluenorthwest]

12. But the man's name is not Jarrod. It is Jerrold. Perhaps you misunderstood?

And just fyi in terms of 'everyone's talking' I did a news search on his name and got nothing.

[Tx4obama]

15. The OP subject line said: 'Jerrod' with an 'e' not Jarrod. I left out the 'L'. I've fixed it.

I guess it would have just been too easy for someone to just tell me I had a typo

[CakeGrrl]

23. Yes, that would have been too civil. You've created a rather irksome OP tonight.

[Bluenorthwest]

24. It was too easy for you to libel the wrong name and for others to do the same.

I asked if you meant the Subway guy, and pointed out the the Democrat from NY is named Jerrold very clearly.
You got his name wrong, and you are saying HE got stuff wrong. It is ironic, and you should learn something from this. The emoticons just make it seem like insulting Democrats is fun for you. Which might be why TX has so few of them in office.

[Tx4obama]

26. I do not know the Subway guy or his name. I did not know I left the 'L' out of his name in the OP

I cannot believe you are making such a big deal out of a very small typo.

[cherokeeprogressive]

5. If he does, think it'll look exactly like a hostage video?

He'll decide to make a retraction right after his phone rings at 2:30 am. The first thing he'll hear when he picks up will be "shhhh".

I'll bet in the hostage video his eyes will be red and his clothes will look unkempt.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

33. Watch for the blinks.

[MNBrewer]

9. How long til the BOG creatures try to find a spot under the bus for him next to Snowden

[Egalitarian Thug]

16. I'm pretty sure this OP indicates that it has already happened. n/t

[Tx4obama]

18. I am not a member of The BOG. n/t

[Egalitarian Thug]

20. No, of course not. My mistake. n/t

[kentuck]

11. More likely Muelller will say he misspoke...

and apologize for his oversight.

[neverforget]

13. And if it's confirmed what Nadler said, will you admit you were wrong?

[Tx4obama]

17. Yes. If there is evidence that he was told that - I will. But so far he is the only source. n/t

[Life Long Dem]

28. This story was shot down fast

A blockbuster article published by CNET Saturday night alleges that the National Security Agency has the power to listen to Americans' phone calls without a warrant.

That bold assertion lit up social media, but also drew skepticism, with many arguing that it seemed to be based on a misunderstanding.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/15/nsa-phone-calls-warrant_n_3448299.html

[MNBrewer]

29. that constitutes being "shot down"?

hardly

[BlueCheese]

31. Nadler isn't really the source. Something he said at a hearing is the source.

The CNET reporter didn't even get confirmation from Nadler to make sure they understood him correctly before publishing this.

I think collecting the phone records of every American is already bad enough (a check of my posts will show that, I think), but CNET did not have enough to go on yet.

[Cali_Democrat]

32. If Nadler does walk back his statement, he will be promptly thrown under the bus by DU

And run over.

Twice.

[hrmjustin]

34. I don't think he will backtrack.

I always liked the congressman and wished I was in his district, but I am stuck with Michael Grimm-R

[Tx4obama]

35. UPDATE has been addd to the OP. n/t