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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:14 AM Jun 2013

Surprise! Justice Scalia Strikes Down Arizona Law Requiring Proof Of Citizenship To Register To Vote

Surprise! Justice Scalia Strikes Down Arizona Law Requiring Proof Of Citizenship To Register To Vote

By Ian Millhiser

In an opinion by conservative Justice Antonin Scalia, a 7-2 Supreme Court held this morning that an Arizona law requiring voting officials to reject voter registration forms that are “not accompanied by concrete evidence of citizenship” conflicts with a federal law requiring states to use a uniform voter registration form for federal elections. Scalia once justified an anti-immigrant opinion with a reference to laws excluding “freed blacks” from southern states, and he called the Voting Rights Act a “perpetuation of racial entitlement. So his authorship of this opinion is both unexpected and a sign of the weakness of Arizona’s legal position in defending this law.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/17/2166661/surprise-justice-scalia-strikes-down-arizona-law-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-register-to-vote/


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Surprise! Justice Scalia Strikes Down Arizona Law Requiring Proof Of Citizenship To Register To Vote (Original Post) ProSense Jun 2013 OP
It seems that those who think Clarence Thomas is a Scalia clone are wrong. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #1
My dad is one of those obama2terms Jun 2013 #12
Proof that Clarence Thomas is worse than Fat Tony red dog 1 Jun 2013 #15
He's Like liberalmike27 Jun 2013 #21
Clarence T. (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #17
Double stuff'd. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #23
Has he started smoking crack? kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #2
Maybe he gave up crack. OmahaBlueDog Jun 2013 #7
Its incorrect to say by headline 'Justice Scalia strikes down,' elleng Jun 2013 #3
Votin' while brown lives to see another day. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #4
This is a great decision, we need voters, we need to encourage voters to vote Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #5
Don't start thinking Fat Tony has gone all liberal. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #6
K&R! nt sheshe2 Jun 2013 #8
Scalia,huh? did anybody read the fine print, the back of the opinion or between the lines? Has he .. marble falls Jun 2013 #9
I hear his opinion lays out a strategy by which states might succeed with such laws struggle4progress Jun 2013 #11
The devil is always in the details. marble falls Jun 2013 #18
And then we have this: savalez Jun 2013 #10
That sound you hear is teabaggers' heads exposing en masse. nt silvershadow Jun 2013 #13
Thank you, ProSense Cha Jun 2013 #14
If this is the Supreme Court's John2 Jun 2013 #16
What a nice man. sibelian Jun 2013 #19
Although I support the outcome ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #20
Stopped watch and all... blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #22
So what form of ID is required to register to vote? Do we then allow noncitizens to vote? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #24
It is important to note that his written opinion justanaverageguy Jun 2013 #25
I'm a Senior citizen and decades ago I had to show ID to register to vote. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #27
Ok, it takes me awhile but I get your and Scalias point, registration must be uniform. Thanks xtraxritical Jun 2013 #28
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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. It seems that those who think Clarence Thomas is a Scalia clone are wrong.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:18 AM
Jun 2013

Clarence Thomas is even worse.

elleng

(130,881 posts)
3. Its incorrect to say by headline 'Justice Scalia strikes down,'
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013

when the Court did so, by a 7-2 decision written by Justice Scalia (and agreed to by others.)

I won't disagree, however, with this: 'So his authorship of this opinion is both unexpected and a sign of the weakness of Arizona’s legal position in defending this law.'

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
6. Don't start thinking Fat Tony has gone all liberal.
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

The decision was based on the Supremacy Clause and federal preemption - in other words, the principle that federal law controls over conflicting or inconsistent state law. It wasn't because Tony is trying to fight for anybody's right to vote. Read it here:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-71_7l48.pdf

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
9. Scalia,huh? did anybody read the fine print, the back of the opinion or between the lines? Has he ..
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jun 2013

turned into a broken clock?

savalez

(3,517 posts)
10. And then we have this:
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jun 2013
Ted Cruz Plans Immigration Amendment To Reverse Supreme Court Ruling On Voter Registration

In an effort to counteract a Supreme Court decision Monday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said he intends to file an amendment to immigration reform legislation that allows states to require proof of citizenship to register to vote.

He billed his amendment as a response to the 7-2 decision in Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council, which struck down an Arizona law that required people to prove their citizenship in order to register to vote. The Court held that the state law was in violation of federal law.


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/ted-cruz-voter-id-immigration-amendment.php?ref=fpb
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
16. If this is the Supreme Court's
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:02 AM
Jun 2013

opinion, then aren't they setting up problems for the voter ID laws also? Why can't the voter ID laws be challenged as unConstitutional?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
20. Although I support the outcome ...
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jun 2013

the actual holding only refers to registering to vote in FEDERAL elections ... so this can result in a two-tier election registration process; one to vote in National elections and a second. more restrictive, process for state/county/munipical level elections.

This ain't good.

justanaverageguy

(186 posts)
25. It is important to note that his written opinion
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jun 2013

did not say that to require an ID in order to register to vote would be unconstitutional per se. He simply said that according to NVRA states do not have the authority to make that a requirement without consent from Congress or whatever relevant agency congress sets up to regulate and decide such matters. However, after reading his opinion it would seem to me that if Congress decided to allow states to require an ID before you can register to vote that it would be just fine by him. No constitutional problem there.

Side note.....Arizona did petition for permission to add an ID to the requirement to register to vote and was denied. Then they amended their constitution.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
27. I'm a Senior citizen and decades ago I had to show ID to register to vote.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 11:01 AM
Jun 2013

I don't care to wallow in the legalese, it's just crazy to not require an ID to register to vote.

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