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WI_DEM

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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:53 AM Jun 2013

Orson Welles: Carole Lombard's plane was shot down by Nazi agents

Interesting theory by an interesting man:

http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/orson-welles-lunch-with-henry-jaglom.html

H.J.: Was it Norma Shearer, Thalberg’s widow, who was killed in that plane crash?

O.W.: No, no. She wasn’t killed in a plane. That was another thing that is amazing. After Thalberg died, Norma Shearer—one of the most minimally ­talented ladies ever to appear on the ­silver screen, and who looked like ­nothing, with one eye crossed over the other—went right on being the queen of Hollywood. Everybody used to say, “Mrs. Thalberg is coming,” “Miss Shearer is arriving,” as though they were talking about Sarah Bernhardt.

H.J.: Or Marie Antoinette.

O.W.: You’re thinking of what’s-her-name—the good one.

H.J.: Gable’s girlfriend—Carole Lombard.

O.W.: His wife. I adored her. She was a very close friend of mine. And I don’t mean to imply that we were ever lovers. Do you know why her plane went down?

H.J.: Why?

O.W.: It was full of big-time American physicists, shot down by the Nazis. She was one of the only civilians on the plane. The plane was filled with bullet holes.

H.J.: It was shot down by who?

O.W.: Nazi agents in America. It’s a real thriller story.

H.J.: That’s preposterous.

O.W.: The people who know it, know it. It was greatly hushed up. The official story was that it ran into the mountain.

H.J.: The agents had antiaircraft guns?

O.W.: No. In those days, the planes couldn’t get up that high. They’d just clear the mountains. The bad guys knew the exact route that the plane had to take. They were standing on a ridge, which was the toughest thing for the plane to get over. One person can shoot a plane down, and if they had five or six people there, they couldn’t miss. Now, I cannot swear it’s true. I’ve been told this by people who swear it’s true, who I happen to believe. But that’s the closest you can get, without having some kind of security clearance.


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Orson Welles: Carole Lombard's plane was shot down by Nazi agents (Original Post) WI_DEM Jun 2013 OP
Everything else seems to say the others on the plane were Army pilots muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #1

muriel_volestrangler

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1. Everything else seems to say the others on the plane were Army pilots
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:25 PM
Jun 2013
On the way home, however, Lombard didn’t want to wait for the train, and instead boarded the TWA DC-3 in Las Vegas with her mother, Elizabeth Peters, and a group that included the MGM publicity agent Otto Winkler and 15 young Army pilots

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/carole-lombard-killed-in-plane-crash


Welles has always come across as someone who'd spin a tall tale for the sake of conversation.
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