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graham4anything

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) graham4anything Jun 2013 OP
I only know Gandolfini BainsBane Jun 2013 #1
wtf are you talking about? n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #2
Michael Hastings? Ptah Jun 2013 #3
Here is link to the article: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #25
Rent the Sopranos DVDs somewhere. You'll get sucked in and blow through them in brewens Jun 2013 #4
I am sure I would disagree with you if I could understand Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #5
he's saying that Michael Hastings wasn't very important Enrique Jun 2013 #6
Thanks! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #7
excellent translation from gobblydegook to English! cali Jun 2013 #10
No, I am saying I never heard of him. I never heard of even one 2013 professional hockey players too graham4anything Jun 2013 #11
bullfuckingshit. then why an op about how you never heard of him? cali Jun 2013 #12
You know, it reminds me of a few years ago when that race car driver died graham4anything Jun 2013 #14
Mark Roth backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #17
They made a great doubles team. graham4anything Jun 2013 #22
I may not like everything you do here..but backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #27
Cool! Wish bowling was as big as golf. graham4anything Jun 2013 #31
yep backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #33
It's funny, the senior tour is getting more exciting than the pro tour graham4anything Jun 2013 #35
left hander?Cheater!!!!! backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #40
LOL. graham4anything Jun 2013 #44
do some research backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #47
Mine was 16, but I am too old for a 16.(better say 16 pound ball, someone might read this wrong). graham4anything Jun 2013 #48
look at the trackball series backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #52
thanks. graham4anything Jun 2013 #54
just tell them backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #53
if you ever get the chance backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #43
I have heard of something like that. That sounds like fun. graham4anything Jun 2013 #49
You are exactly correct. Iggo Jun 2013 #16
Hastings embarrassed Obama JW2020 Jun 2013 #42
Thanks, I honestly could not understand what the fuck the tiny seed of an idea was... Bonobo Jun 2013 #63
when hes not fantasising about droning muslims he comes up with some really incoherent stuff Monkie Jun 2013 #24
Of course you didn't actually know any of these people, while others actually did. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #8
...but he would give Ben Fong Torres a run for his money. Iggo Jun 2013 #18
It is fun to say. So is Lester Bangs for that matter. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #36
Not a fan of Hunter Thompson's style of writing. To each his own. graham4anything Jun 2013 #50
so you're proud of your abject ignorance? And you're name dropping? bwahahaha. cali Jun 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jun 2013 #13
I said nothing of the kind. put up or ferme la bouche. cali Jun 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jun 2013 #21
weasel words. yes, you said it. cali Jun 2013 #23
its a bit sick that a buffoon feels the need to ramble about dead people Monkie Jun 2013 #26
James Gandolfini is very relevant you know, what with wellness being in right now. graham4anything Jun 2013 #41
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #39
thanks. glad people remember that. cali Jun 2013 #45
You're welcome. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #51
"There are 325 million people in the world." Blue Cheese please. Fresh ground black pepper too. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #65
Well, this makes more sense... rrneck Jun 2013 #15
Does that mean you are only 75%-25%? Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #20
Not nice. dkf Jun 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author JustJoe Jun 2013 #29
If you say "The guy who broke the General McChrystal story, where his staff was badmouthing the MADem Jun 2013 #30
No surprise you didn't know him. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #32
Well, that explains a whole lot. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #34
I know Taibbi obviously. graham4anything Jun 2013 #38
I read the article by Mr Hastings about General McChrystle. I think it was in the southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #37
That article I do know, didn't know he wrote that by name til it was brought up yesterday. graham4anything Jun 2013 #46
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong... JimDandy Jun 2013 #55
I defy most people who aren't political junkies to name the 44(actually only 43 different presidents graham4anything Jun 2013 #56
i am lousy at names questionseverything Jun 2013 #59
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never heard of him, so he doesn't matter. Iggo Jun 2013 #57
Sometimes I get the sneaking suspicion... LanternWaste Jun 2013 #58
i don't believe you. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #60
These are the Daves I know Electric Monk Jun 2013 #61
"Some of them are David, but most of them are Dave." Iggo Jun 2013 #62
Dave? Dave's not here, man. Electric Monk Jun 2013 #64
Four people of various celebrity died within a day of each other, and you know what, I only knew 3. graham4anything Jun 2013 #66

BainsBane

(53,016 posts)
1. I only know Gandolfini
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jun 2013

I might recognize the others if I saw photos.

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
2. wtf are you talking about? n/t
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jun 2013

Ptah

(33,021 posts)
3. Michael Hastings?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jun 2013

Michael Hastings was best known for his sensational, award-winning piece 'The Runaway General'
published in Rolling Stone in 2010. It portrayed a commander of the US-led force in Afghanistan
Gen. Stanley McChrystal and “general's staff” as “handpicked collection of killers, spies, geniuses,
patriots, political operators and outright maniacs”, revealed openly disrespectful attitude to
President Obama, administration officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, and their war policies.

brewens

(13,551 posts)
4. Rent the Sopranos DVDs somewhere. You'll get sucked in and blow through them in
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jun 2013

a month! I did.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
5. I am sure I would disagree with you if I could understand
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013

this rambling, incoherent post! So you get a pass on this one because I am clueless.

cheers!

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
6. he's saying that Michael Hastings wasn't very important
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:42 PM
Jun 2013

he's saying that normal people like himself and his red-blooded American friends have no interest in snot-nosed little reporters like Hastings.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
7. Thanks!
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jun 2013

As I suspected, the OP is simply being a jackass.

Cheers!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. excellent translation from gobblydegook to English!
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jun 2013
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
11. No, I am saying I never heard of him. I never heard of even one 2013 professional hockey players too
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:56 PM
Jun 2013

It doesn't mean anything more than that fact.

I don't follow hockey, but I know the professional bowling tour
(and I am a big NY Met fan, but while I can name their entire 1969 team, I couldn't name more than 3 or 4 of the current players.)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. bullfuckingshit. then why an op about how you never heard of him?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
Jun 2013

seriously, you don't fool anyone.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. You know, it reminds me of a few years ago when that race car driver died
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jun 2013

That race care driver died, right at the time we were going to Florida, I think the Daytona race was around that time as it was every year we went.

It was all Florida talked about for the entire 10 days we were there.

Someone saved all the papers back home, and except for the obit, there was zero mention of it in the NY/NJ papers.
Zero.

Yet, I can tell you the exact stats of Mark Roth, who sad to say had a major stroke a couple of years ago.

America is a vast place, and one man's superstar is unknown by others.

How many here heard of Mark Roth? I bet very few.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
17. Mark Roth
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jun 2013

The first of the big cranking hook power bowlers.He used to drive me crazy watching him cock that arm over and over before every shot.....but he had mad skills.

He came into his own in the era when the first urethane bowling balls were gaining favor....long before the active and reactive resin balls of today...and he could make those primitive by todays standards utethane balls dance.
I was more of a Marshall Holman fan but I liked big Mark

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
22. They made a great doubles team.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jun 2013

Liked Marshall myself too. Same with Brian Voss.
BTW- cbssports cable channel has 5 summer tour events Tuesdays at 7pm eastern, two already played of the 5.
ESPN ran the winter tour, not sure who has the 2014 tour.

My hand had blisters like Mark throwing like he did.
In highschool, I was the best bowler at the tryouts, however, the coach didn't even notice me, as I wasn't part of the in crowd.
When I went to his office after the list was posted and asked him, he didn't know I was there, but then brushed me off saying I had no potential.
anyhow...

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
27. I may not like everything you do here..but
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jun 2013

bowling is my passion.
Highest I ever got was making the cut in 14 mid states masters(made the finals once..lost...won 2500)and two US Opens

LOVE me some bowling.
My best traveling tourney league average was 219

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
31. Cool! Wish bowling was as big as golf.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jun 2013

Both are very similar but once they made the pros play on lanes treated to make them harder than the average league bowler,
and with the new balls, a league bowler can get a higher score than the pros, people stopped watching it thinking they could do better.

However, they can't on those floor patterns.

It has, though become a major international sport...and the superstars here are treated like matinee idols in some parts of the world.
(and the money is better overseas for them.)

When they went to the exempt tour, cut the number of games per tourney, and changed the balls, it made it harder for the ones they wanted to be on TV to make the finals like they used to. It backfired on them.

What is interesting now is that it is privately owned and operated by one company.

Imagine if one owner owned all the baseball teams.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
33. yep
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jun 2013

The PBA was ruined when they were bought out.

I know what you mean with the oil patterns.....bowled a few US Open qualifiers on the scorpion pattern...it's a bitch

Nice to know someone other than me has a passion for bowling here

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
35. It's funny, the senior tour is getting more exciting than the pro tour
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:58 PM
Jun 2013

you know what is also funny
living in NY/NJ never had a problem with crime
except once someone broke into my trunk and stole my bowling ball/shoes. Had that ball for years and its not that easy for a lefthanded bowler to get a new ball.

(but then I still play tennis with my wooden tad davis) LOL

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
40. left hander?Cheater!!!!!
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jun 2013

I'm left handed.I love it when I see in my leagues that I will be the only leftie some weeks on my pair.I get to set my oil and go about my business.I may move one or two boards all day while everyone on the right side is moving every four or five frames.

I once had to quit a league in Detroit because they banned all lefthanded bowlers...I had to laugh

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
44. LOL.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:24 PM
Jun 2013

I was never a fan of Earl Anthony, too robotic, (but accurate.) Wonder if he could have mastered the lanes today.

Johnny Petraglia is lefthanded. He is from NJ and at Carolier Lanes (wish that was closer to me, it is more than 75 minutes, if it was closer would bowl there. Great pro shot there.
They have a major tourney once a year we go to.

Getting back into actually bowling again, now that I am into a wellness program, I was hesitant the last few years
regular bowling is a lot more physical than most people think. Very hard on the knees too, especially if they don't keep the lanes clean.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
47. do some research
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jun 2013

there are some 14 pound balls out now that hit like a ton of bricks.
Easier on the wrists and still effective

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
48. Mine was 16, but I am too old for a 16.(better say 16 pound ball, someone might read this wrong).
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jun 2013

Have big hands, so it is very hard to find alley balls at all to test them out
(and the pro shops don't really have many drilled lefty balls.

So its like buy and then test (and once you drill you can't return)
but there is one out there that will have my name on it

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
52. look at the trackball series
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jun 2013

track makes several 14 pounders that hit HARD.They have several 14 pounders rated at 9.5 that just destroy pins

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
54. thanks.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:57 PM
Jun 2013
 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
53. just tell them
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jun 2013

to give you the full ounce of sideweight you can legally take.Also move the weight towards the front of the fingerholes.It makes flipping the ball easier on the wrist and still gives lots of punch

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
43. if you ever get the chance
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jun 2013

there is a tourney in Chicago that runs for months.They have the second floor for the tourney.They have 30 lanes and every lane is different.You bowl one frame on each lane.Some may have 20 units of oil on each board...some may not have been oiled for years.Some have offset arrows and some have no arrows at all.

It's a blast

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
49. I have heard of something like that. That sounds like fun.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jun 2013

Iggo

(47,539 posts)
16. You are exactly correct.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013
 

JW2020

(169 posts)
42. Hastings embarrassed Obama
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jun 2013

Even in death the long knives come out.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
63. Thanks, I honestly could not understand what the fuck the tiny seed of an idea was...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:07 PM
Jun 2013

That tiny, ungerminated seed lay beneath a thick hazy blanket of Wellness-induced smoke and it was impenetrable to me.

What a seedy-little POS OP it is.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
24. when hes not fantasising about droning muslims he comes up with some really incoherent stuff
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jun 2013

my god, some people just have no shame at all.
a man is dead and some other guy is onanising about famous people he knows to make the other person seem insignificant, its just sad.
i dont understand these cults of personality, but i do know hastings was as valuable a human being as any of those other "famous" people, if not more, how can you compare a journalist to a actor

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Of course you didn't actually know any of these people, while others actually did.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jun 2013

It offends me to see the use of nice dead people as dressing for word salads. Even Chet deserves better than that, and Chet was no Lester Bangs, much less a Dr Thompson.

Iggo

(47,539 posts)
18. ...but he would give Ben Fong Torres a run for his money.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jun 2013

(I just like saying Ben Fong Torres.)

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. It is fun to say. So is Lester Bangs for that matter.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jun 2013

nt

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
50. Not a fan of Hunter Thompson's style of writing. To each his own.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

(not saying anything about his viewpoint, but his writing style.)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. so you're proud of your abject ignorance? And you're name dropping? bwahahaha.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

and you sure as shit are putting Hastings down in your inimitable rambling word salad way.

not to mention that you've done that in other posts.

rambling, tangential speech is often a sign of something.

Response to cali (Reply #9)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. I said nothing of the kind. put up or ferme la bouche.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

Link to my saying anything fucking remotely related to what you claim I said about "the whole world should follow the people you do".

and I've said tons of nice things about President Obama. Unlike YOU I don't make horseshit claims. Here.

I keep getting told I'm some sort of radical lefty (of course I just got told by another DUer that I'm a right winger and should have been kicked off of DU for my right wing views, so...)

Given a choice between McCain and Obama, of course I'd vote for the President. Given a choice between Mittens and Obama, of course I'd vote for the President. In fact, I'd vote for the President over any republican and quite a few dems.

I like President Obama. I thinks he's an intelligent, decent, compassionate man.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023022113
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002463603

Response to cali (Reply #19)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. weasel words. yes, you said it.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jun 2013

and you said you'd never seen anything nice I'd written about Obama. Now you know how wrong you are about that.

so what if I wrote a post about the cult of personality? and no, I am not surprised that people don't "follow" the same people I do- whatever that is supposed to mean.

stop making shit up.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
26. its a bit sick that a buffoon feels the need to ramble about dead people
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jun 2013

in this way, does anyone take this buffoon seriously?
what is the point, does it impress anyone at all?
its like when your cat drags home some dead animal and presents it too you, you kindof have to accept it, but you really dont want to be touching that "gift".

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
41. James Gandolfini is very relevant you know, what with wellness being in right now.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jun 2013

and James is from NJ, and the governor of NJ is about the same age and has the same problem.

and as I am on a wellness program for a year or so now, it is quite scary you know.

I don't understand why people belittle wellness programs.(and put down the 48 ounce soda controversy).

When one hits 45 or 50, and what your body accepted all of a sudden catches up with you.
Everybody has a vice, mine was cheese. It's one day at a time with no real cheese.

125 pounds lighter with no surgery, and I got so heavy from sitting around working on the computer, watching the news from 9/11 onward and not doing a damn bit of exercising and eating wrong.

So it is relevant toward today's stories.

And James Gandolfini was an eye opener. While I will never vote for Christie, I do hope he knows he has to work at it as like James, he has a family to think about.
It is a 24/7/365 and the surgery is not the end all.

Response to graham4anything (Reply #13)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. thanks. glad people remember that.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:26 PM
Jun 2013

Moses2SandyKoufax

(1,290 posts)
51. You're welcome. n/t
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jun 2013
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
65. "There are 325 million people in the world." Blue Cheese please. Fresh ground black pepper too.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:12 AM
Jun 2013

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
15. Well, this makes more sense...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:04 PM
Jun 2013

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
20. Does that mean you are only 75%-25%?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jun 2013

Tighten up.





 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
28. Not nice.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jun 2013

The man just died for heaven sakes.

Response to graham4anything (Original post)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. If you say "The guy who broke the General McChrystal story, where his staff was badmouthing the
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jun 2013

CinC and making light of the mission in Afghanistan" everyone who was breathing remembers that.

That guy who did that big thing--you may not remember the guy's name, but you remember the big thing.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
32. No surprise you didn't know him.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jun 2013

As ill-informed and in a bubble as you are.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Well, that explains a whole lot.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jun 2013


Never heard of Michael Hastings? That's sad. Have you ever heard of Matt Taibbi, Jeremy Scahill?
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
38. I know Taibbi obviously.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

Real journalism died when the old school type like Jack Germond (later on the MCLaughlan group), and other reporters got old and the media tossed Dan Rather out and his buddies were right there stabbing him in the back.

and I knew the Village Voice writers up to before the Voice was brought out and everyone was either fired or quit, though it was a week to week whether I agreed with them or not.
(once they went free in Manhattan, it ruined them.)

Hey, but I do read and know Dan Savage though he no longer is in the voice, read him on line. Haven't missed one column of his. Always love when he gets to be a tv talking head.
Always wonder If they read his column.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
37. I read the article by Mr Hastings about General McChrystle. I think it was in the
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jun 2013

Rollingstone mag. It was long but very informative. Excellent read. I bet if you google his name I bet this article will pop up and you can click on it.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
46. That article I do know, didn't know he wrote that by name til it was brought up yesterday.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jun 2013

which was the point of the OP

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
55. One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jun 2013

Slim Whitman-singer/entertainment industry (never heard of-had to look him up);
Chet Flippo-music journalist/entertainment industry (also a look-up);
James Gandolfini-actor/entertainment industry (heard of-never saw his show).

Michael Hastings-award winning news/political reporter, war correspondent, journalist and author.

What a commentary on you, and the 4 (not 325 million) people you spoke to, that the only decedents you recognized are entertainers.


 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
56. I defy most people who aren't political junkies to name the 44(actually only 43 different presidents
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jun 2013

But people all over can name all the members of the Beatles and the Simpsons (except maybe for Maggie)

If you ask 1000 people who Frank Rich is, I bet 900plus have no clue.

If you ask a million people who ARTHUR Hailey is, how many would know(I said ARTHUR not ALEX).

If you ask 1000 people who Stephen King is, I am sure all would know.

I still think in 2000, 25% of his voters thought W was 41.

(and I bet tomorrow, the world will instantly know the name Kanye's new baby.(it really isn't North West is it?)

In the movie 42 about Jackie Robinson, I bet everyone knew who Jackie was, but bet almost no one knew the names of the other players portrayed, and the manager of the Dodgers after the other was banned.

It is not personal, it is an observation.

Quick, who was Millard Fillmore's VP?(without looking. I can't say I could tell you myself).
I could tell you the names of the 4 VPS for FDR without looking, but I bet most couldn't remember 2 of them.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
59. i am lousy at names
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jun 2013

after hasting died i asked a few parents of kids friends what they thought..i got the same response,never heard of him but they all knew of the actor

Iggo

(47,539 posts)
57. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never heard of him, so he doesn't matter.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jun 2013

The fact that you went so far out of your way to avoid saying his name shows how much it bothers you, and how much it really does matter to you.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
58. Sometimes I get the sneaking suspicion...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jun 2013

Sometimes I get the sneaking suspicion you actually believe you're making sense.

It is my opinion. Of course you are welcome to disagree with me...

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
60. i don't believe you.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jun 2013
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
61. These are the Daves I know
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:25 PM
Jun 2013


Well, I never actually met them, but I saw them on TV once, so....

Iggo

(47,539 posts)
62. "Some of them are David, but most of them are Dave."
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:03 PM
Jun 2013
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
64. Dave? Dave's not here, man.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:06 AM
Jun 2013


 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
66. Four people of various celebrity died within a day of each other, and you know what, I only knew 3.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:06 AM
Jun 2013

I AM CLOSING THIS DOWN as it is veering off message. but am cutting/pasting the OP here, and putting it in my journal.
It makes the point that we all know and follow people but in America, in such a big and vast country, it isimpossible for all of us to know by name every single person.

44 President (actually only 43), how many can name all of them and in their correct order?
How many people know Millard Fillmore's vice president? (note, that is a trick question, as he did not have one).
Everyone has their favorites and those they know, but favorites are not the same to everyone.

If it would be that simple, everyone would agree who was the greatest pitcher of all time, Sandy Koufax or Bob Gibson.
--------------------------------------the following was the post in the OP that I closed down.--------------------

Four people of various celebrity died within a day of each other, and you know what, I only knew about 3 of them.
And I venture to guess most people in America also would say the same thing.

Four people of various celebrity died within a day of each other, and you know what, I only knew 3.

The greatest writer in Rolling Stone magazine history died, and I read him all the time, and his books.
His name was Chet Flippo. I even had the pleasure of meeting him and talking to him. Loved his writing style both in Rolling Stone and his books, and later on the CMT.com site.

I knew about 90 year old Slim Whitman even before his comeback on latenight tv, and later on Mars Attacks!!!
(and who didn't in their shower try to do what he did).

I knew about as did everyone James Gandolfini and I can honestly say I never saw the Sopranos as I don't get HBO,
though according to my latest cable bill, it will be available under our plan free of charge(except the bill is going up ten dollars
to get it free).

However, the other,Michael Hastings, I never heard of.
I heard of him because of the accident, and they say he wrote for blogs and articles and had some articles in Rolling Stone.

However, I get a subscription to Rolling Stone. I wrack my brain, and I can't recall ever seeing his name in it.

I buy it for old times sake, and the music stuff and Hollywood stuff.

The NY Times, well, after Jayson Blair and Judith Miller, and their getting rid of Frank Rich (who pegged it 100% correct about the President and the hatred of him), and what it was from day one), I don't really read the news in the Times.

Ironically, their obituaries are the one thing I still buy it for, and the Sunday Crossword puzzle, and their entertainment stuff.
Without the obits, I wouldn't know some great character actors died.

But through the years, the people I have listened to, most people in America never heard of any of them.
I listened to WLIB for years, with Gary Byrd and Mark Davis and I watch Al Sharpton.
Can't recall him being mentioned on any of the three (but I am sure Gary and Mark are names foreign to most people too.

There are 325 plus million people in America.

It's nothing personal, it is the truth.

And I bet others would agree with me.

In my travels the last 2 days, I asked everyone I saw about the 4.
They all heard of James. A few remembered Slim. One person besides me knew Chet.
No one knew this writer/blogger Michael Hastings.

It's a matter of perspective.

It's what it is. It is not putting him down, or elevating the others. It's not an insult.

It is my opinion. Of course you are welcome to disagree with me.

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