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peacebird

(14,195 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:02 PM Jun 2013

Is there any way to effect change? To shut down the NSA? To stop the secret armies of Gen Alexander?

Is it possible?

How do we get any oversight or control over black programs? I do not believe this is "merely metadata" and even if it were, it won't be long before it isn't. After all, the fine folk at darpa dream of having the power to turn off your car while you are driving if the police deem it neccesary.

How much of our freedom are we willing to give away to prevent a terrorist attack? Think about it, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than a terrorist.

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Is there any way to effect change? To shut down the NSA? To stop the secret armies of Gen Alexander? (Original Post) peacebird Jun 2013 OP
Before you're bombarded with corporatist-provided links... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #1
Yes, and unfortunately people will die. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2
That is my fear as well. peacebird Jun 2013 #3
We are always so proud and supportive (I mean on DU) of citizen uprisings for the right cause. Maybe monmouth3 Jun 2013 #4
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. Before you're bombarded with corporatist-provided links...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jun 2013

...let me just say, in my simpleton way, there is Right and Wrong.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Yes, and unfortunately people will die.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jun 2013

But we need national strikes and multi million person marches...that do not disperse.

Suffice it to say, this is what the NSA and FBI are for these days...to prevent this.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
4. We are always so proud and supportive (I mean on DU) of citizen uprisings for the right cause. Maybe
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

it's time the people of the US got their act together and did the same thing. At least it would show the rest of the world we do not think the same as our government. If we do nothing it means there is citizen consent. I wouldn't want any other peoples thinking we condone this. Time to hit the road and make our feelings known. I'm talking thousands and thousands.

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