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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:25 PM Jun 2013

On Moscow Layover, Snowden Finds No Friend in Putin (info squeeze in Moscow and Havana hmm)

My predictions:
- Putin will squeeze info out of Snowdon before granting him exit
- Cuba will not accept his transit through Jose Marti Airport in Havana

** After noting that all flights to Ecuador make stopovers I'm concluding that
he may stop in Caracas or Havana but only if they also get something out of
the deal .. as in more secret information or a payoff of another kind. In both
cases their relationship with the US will take a hit so they'll need incentive


The suspense did not last long: Soon after his flight from Hong Kong landed in Moscow, we were told that National Security Agency whistle-blower Edward Snowden had applied for political asylum in Ecuador.

It was in Hong Kong that Snowden publicly disclosed the existence of Prism, a top-secret U.S. National Security Agency program providing the NSA with access to the servers of top Internet companies like Miscrosoft, Apple, Google and Yahoo! Hong Kong has an extradition treaty with the U.S., where Snowden is sought for revealing classified information. Though the region's parliament left it for the mainland Chinese authorities to decide whether or not to hand Snowden over, his situation was too uncertain to stay on. Hong Kong officials facing pressure both from the U.S. and from Beijing, which is reluctant to take orders from Washington, must have heaved a big sigh of relief as Snowden boarded an Aeroflot flight to Moscow.

It was hardly a random destination: Russia has no extradition treaty with the U.S. Since Snowden had not made his plans known before skipping Hong Kong, some politicians in Moscow believed he might seek asylum here, and welcomed the opportunity to stick it to Uncle Sam. "Some are already saying that granting Snowden political asylum would be an act of cold war," tweeted Alexei Pushkov, head of the Russian parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee. "But if wig-wearing spies are not committing one, granting asylum is not such an act, either."

Pushkov was referring to the recent apprehension of a U.S. diplomat in Moscow as he walked to an alleged rendezvous with a potential Russian asset. The diplomat was apparently wearing a blond wig, and the whole episode was more comical than cloak-and-dagger.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-23/on-moscow-layover-snowden-finds-no-friend-in-putin.html

Putin practicing the squeeeeze technique he'll apply to Snowden

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On Moscow Layover, Snowden Finds No Friend in Putin (info squeeze in Moscow and Havana hmm) (Original Post) flamingdem Jun 2013 OP
Snowden would have been safe with Putin Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #1
Putin is going to put the ring on him flamingdem Jun 2013 #3
PRISM is not a "program", and provides access to nothing Recursion Jun 2013 #2
Yeah, that part could use some accuracy! flamingdem Jun 2013 #5
They'll keep fanning the flames to get as much $$$$$ out of it as they can. Truth RKP5637 Jun 2013 #29
Russia: We kill our whistleblowers to make room for yours. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #4
Putin will blow his whistle alright flamingdem Jun 2013 #6
Pussy Riot, Super Bowl rings and Snowden. What a country! randome Jun 2013 #7
Putin likes to dance to Pussy Riot wearing the Superbowl ring flamingdem Jun 2013 #10
Snowden should avoid wearing blond wigs in Russia. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #8
snowden should learn to embrace adidas track suits BOG PERSON Jun 2013 #18
I hear he's partial to red hoods. randome Jun 2013 #19
And there is a Little Red riding him right now flamingdem Jun 2013 #23
all of this speculation about where Snowden is or where he is going... chillfactor Jun 2013 #9
Strange fever dreams... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #11
RIA Novosti says Snowden has no visa and will not leave the airport. FarCenter Jun 2013 #12
Interesting! flamingdem Jun 2013 #14
You would make for a lousy psychic. nt darkangel218 Jun 2013 #16
They get so little from it... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #17
If I'm wrong I'm wrong nt flamingdem Jun 2013 #22
This is about South American Politics purely. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #24
I'm hoping I'm right about Cuba flamingdem Jun 2013 #25
I think you are going to be wrong about that nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #26
Yes they are an imperial threat to Latin America flamingdem Jun 2013 #27
This is about the right now nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #28
Though here's a report of Snowden getting a check up from an Ecuadorian Embassy doctor in Russia flamingdem Jun 2013 #15
There are hotels on/near the airport FarCenter Jun 2013 #20
There is no way out of Moscow to Ecuador without a stopover flamingdem Jun 2013 #21
Miami Herald reporting that Snowden has a ticket to Cuba, this is why flamingdem Jun 2013 #13
What makes you think that Putin, or the Chinese for that matter WestStar Jun 2013 #30
They may want to double check that flamingdem Jun 2013 #31
I should have said yes, flamingdem Jun 2013 #32

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. Putin is going to put the ring on him
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

and the marriage will be short lived.

Just enough to get the info that Putin believes he has in that 'puter of his!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. PRISM is not a "program", and provides access to nothing
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jun 2013

Jesus Christ. This story is a week old, and journalists still can't get basic stuff right.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
29. They'll keep fanning the flames to get as much $$$$$ out of it as they can. Truth
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jun 2013

and facts matter little to MSM and the journalists of today IMO.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Pussy Riot, Super Bowl rings and Snowden. What a country!
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
10. Putin likes to dance to Pussy Riot wearing the Superbowl ring
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jun 2013

Wikileaks said so! He da man. No way can he resist putting on the squeeze with this american boy

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. I hear he's partial to red hoods.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font]
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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
23. And there is a Little Red riding him right now
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jun 2013

and I mean Putin

I mean the story and this is not sexual to those who would alert over such an "offense"

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
14. Interesting!
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jun 2013

Ecuador may be smarter than I thought.

Why would they take him when they get so little out of it.

Plus: Putin wants to squeeze him tight

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. They get so little from it...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jun 2013

Not all politics are American.

Tweaking the Monroe doctrine.

This is junior high material really.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. This is about South American Politics purely.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jun 2013

And tweaking the former imperial power. Yup, all this drama revealed that too.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
25. I'm hoping I'm right about Cuba
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:03 PM
Jun 2013

I don't think they need to help Snowden to burnish their credibility with the Latin American left.

I just see them as too smart to get involved, Ecuador has less to lose.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
26. I think you are going to be wrong about that
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:05 PM
Jun 2013

And it s not about the Latin left either.

The us is revealing itself to be quite weak on this footnote of history

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
27. Yes they are an imperial threat to Latin America
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

for sure we know that but I don't think the US has been that far reduced in the region yet.

Time will tell.

Elections can go both ways in Latam and things can swing right as quickly as left.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
28. This is about the right now
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jun 2013

I think we might want to find a few nails for the Monroe Doctrine.

Now off to read some Latin press.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
15. Though here's a report of Snowden getting a check up from an Ecuadorian Embassy doctor in Russia
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:41 PM
Jun 2013
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130623/181828331/Snowden-in-Moscow-Gets-Medical-Checkup--Report.html

MOSCOW, June 23 (RIA Novosti) – Former US intelligence contractor Edward Snowden, wanted by the United States for revealing a highly classified surveillance program that allegedly monitored phone and electronic conversations of millions of Americans, has arrived in Moscow and has been examined by an Ecuadorian Embassy doctor, the Ecuadorian newspaper Hoy reported Sunday.

Snowden, 30, left Hong Kong on Sunday, a day after the United States formally requested his extradition. A passenger who was on an Aeroflot flight that Snowden is believed to have taken to Moscow told RIA Novosti that Snowden had gotten into a car with diplomatic plates on the tarmac at Sheremetyevo Airport.

However, media reports cited airport officials as saying that Snowden would not be allowed to leave the premises because he did not have a Russian visa and would therefore only be able to fly to a third destination.
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. There are hotels on/near the airport
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jun 2013

He has a Russian "guide" no doubt, along with the Ecuadorian diplomatic staff.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
21. There is no way out of Moscow to Ecuador without a stopover
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jun 2013

If he stops in Havana then there will have been incentives for Cuba as well.

They will take a hit in US Cuba relations and will want something back.

Squeeze again

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. Miami Herald reporting that Snowden has a ticket to Cuba, this is why
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

I think he's going elsewhere. Miami righties trying to get some anti-Cuba hate in before the real route is announced. (Disclaimer: I could be wrong but will be disappointed and was hoping that Cuba could put aside the feud for this one time)


The former National Security Agency contractor and CIA technician fled Hong Kong and arrived at the Moscow airport, where he planned to spend the night before boarding an Aeroflot flight to Cuba.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/23/3466238_plane-believed-to-be-carrying.html#storylink=cpy

 

WestStar

(202 posts)
30. What makes you think that Putin, or the Chinese for that matter
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:13 PM
Jun 2013

Don't already know what Snowden knows?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
31. They may want to double check that
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jun 2013

if you know what I mean.

And they may want to intimidate him as to his future intelligence gathering.

Putin knows how to do these things, in fact it's second nature to him, like a sport, a hobby!

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