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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Dick Cheney being prosecuted by Holder as a "leaker" or a "whistle blower"?
I'm having an argument with a far left radical in another thread and I forgot the answer to this one.
I know that in the eyes of Obama and Holder, all leakers who compromise our security deserve justice, and Cheney is no exception.
I just cant recall the semantics- is Obama and Holder calling Cheney a leaker or a whistle-blower?
Either way he is going DOWN (Maybe he and Hong Kong Eddie can share a cell!)
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Cheney was po'd when Bush wouldn't grant Scooter a pardon. This is one of the reasons I have a problem with Snowden. With turning over information to other governments, he exposes intelligence networks too ( read an article about that on another thread and am trying to find it). It is no different than Cheney & Libby outing Plame in my eyes.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)I cant WAIT to see the look on Cheney's face when Holder makes him do the perp walk.
Holder and Obama are not stupid enough to think that Scooter did this on his own.
This is why they are digging deeper, putting folks under oath and getting the net ready, just like with Snowden.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Some far left radical in another thread is trying to say that Obama & Holder let Cheney off scott free for doing things worse than Snowden.
What a bald face lie this must be. We know that Obama goes after ALL leakers who compromise our security.
Any help on what they are calling him would be helpful.
According to the DOJ, was Dick Cheney a Leaker or a Whistleblower?
BainsBane
(53,127 posts)They didn't have enough on Cheney to bring him to trial, but evidently they were close.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)No- Obama and Holder have just as many facts against "Big Time" Cheney as they do against Snowden.
My guess is that we are going to have a dual trial and put BOTH traitors under the jail.
Also, Holder and Obama are not stupid enough to think Libby did this all on his own.
They are not going to let Snowden off the hook so easy, and Cheney is not getting away with this either.
And back to the original question- Did Obama and the DOJ call Cheney a "leaker" at press conferences, or a "whistle blower"- I cant find the clips.
How do you remember it? Whatever it was, I know it was consistent with how they are going after Mr. Hong-Kong Phoohey.
BainsBane
(53,127 posts)not leaking or espionage. Those are separate charges. I don't remember the sequence of events.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)I'm pretty sure they called him something when they stormed the press with this issue- just like they are doing now.
LOL! I'll bet Cheney was sweating BULLETS when Obama and DEMS demanded he be put him under oath- I recall it like it was yesterday.
BainsBane
(53,127 posts)I was talking about Fitzgerald's case against Libby.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Assuming that is what we are supposed to call him.
What does Holder & the DOJ call Cheney? Leaker or Whistleblower?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)nt
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You were told to look forward. The future is where it is at.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)Hell- we dont even have to go to China to get him in cuffs.
Holder/Obama go after leakers with every fiber of their beings- any other story would be evidence that DEMS are soft on national security.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)If the democrats didn't support all of this surveillance, GITMO, and the Patriot Act, then the Boston bombings occurred, they would lose an election. It is the political reality of their need to appear strong on security. I heard that somewhere today. When they get Cheney their national security credentials will be completely in tact. Maybe they can then send some arms and money to a truly evil faction in Syria, boosting their street cred even a little more. They will have Cheney soon enough my friend.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)But the immediate question is:
While Cheney was being hunted down and while they were gearing up to jail and prosecute him, did Obama's DOJ refer to Cheney as a "leaker" or a "whistle blower"?
YES- they will have Cheney soon enough- At this quick pace, I would not be suprised if he and Snowden have a dual trial.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)him. Only the little people get prosecuted in the US.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)That is why they have not rested and they WILL NOT REST until Cheney is behind bars.
As we know, they go after ltraitors/leakers b/c to do otherwise would make them appear weak on security.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)DURec
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)I only associate with the good Chinese, not the evil ones that like Snowden.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)What is the DOJ calling Cheney?
Someone refresh my memory here.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)It's a hell of a note when an admitted torturer can go on the same national television he admitted his war crimes on and scream for the head of a guy that leaked documents.
Our "justice" system is a fucking joke.
G_j
(40,372 posts)I just read this whole thread, but I don't see any links to what you are talking about regarding Cheney.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)If you need a link to prove that, then that says more about far-left malcontents than it does about this thread.
I thought I was asking for a link, so I might understand what the hell this thread is about. Ok I'll just write it off nonsense..
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)him, that treason would be the most appropriate charge in Cheney's case. But it will not happen, not in our lifetimes. History however often views these events with more clarity. His 'legacy' will be what it is, not what he would like it to be. His victims, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc will have their say in the writing of his legacy.
See Pinochet! While the Brits and the US helped get him off the hook for his genocidal crimes, his legacy is being written by the victims. They are all human in the end and cannot control how they are remembered.
MattFromKY
(43 posts)Until this one man does time for his crimes.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)I'm cool either way.
I'm glad Obama is brave enough to only talk about and go after the worst of the worst, not just the easy targets.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)I cnat help it if it's the far left who has warped priorities.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)great white snark
(2,646 posts)They didn't have enough on Cheney but keep on chasing your windmills.
Dr Fate
(32,189 posts)And I know deep down in my soul that you would to.
Am I right?
If this makes me some "elusive centrist"- then so be it.
At least I'm not a far-left hypocrite- the type that only defends Snowden b/c they hate Obama.
They didnt have enough on Cheney?
I KNEW IT! I knew we had an excuse. Thanks for those details- I'll use those arguments in other threads.
Oh- but back to the OP-Did they call him a leaker or a whistle-blower? Maybe we just didnt call him the right thing.