Double down on Obama Hate w/Climate Change + Snowden! (Wapo Editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/06/25/the-insiders-what-edward-snowden-teaches-us-about-obamas-climate-change-policy/** Those who attack Obama at every chance and cheer on Snowden who sold out to China will enjoy this. We can see here where extreme right does a reach around to its left. Expect more of same those who are naive enough to take things at face value in search of the anti-Obama hero of their dreams.
** Edit for clarity: My point is that the right is using Snowden to attack Obama's credibility on the international stage. You'll see more of this on every article out there that allows comments. The trolls have new instructions to modify their attack and their success hinges on attracting the libertarian left or left that hates Obama on xyz issues
The Insiders: What Edward Snowden teaches us about Obama’s climate change policy
By Ed Rogers, Updated: June 25, 2013
I believe that if we’re ever going to do anything about climate change, it has to start with diplomatic agreements. It has to start with real international cooperation, not unilateral actions that gratuitously raise the cost of Americans’ power bills and hurt the U.S. economy.
Today, with the release of the “The President’s Climate Action Plan,” President Obama announced the damage he’s going to do to the American economy through actions that will have no appreciable effect on the global environment, much less lower the earth’s temperature to President Obama’s desired level. And you’ll notice that while Obama’s proposed plan contains a section on “leading international efforts to address global climate change,” his international plan consists of eye-rolling homilies and tired slogans like “spurring concrete action” through “bilateral initiatives with China” (what a joke) and “forging global responses to climate change” through the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. The president cannot even deal effectively with Congress, and he certainly hasn’t demonstrated the diplomatic skills or foreign policy strength to move the world in the direction he wants it to go.
In case we needed a more vivid illustration of the president’s diplomatic limits, the case of National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden is revealing, in real time, Obama’s lack of stature abroad and the diminished power of the White House. Russia, China, and no less than Ecuador are all showing defiance on this issue. If these countries thought they would suffer any consequences or that they had any price to pay whatsoever — or, for that matter, if any reservoir of goodwill had been built during the Obama presidency — they would do the reasonable thing and matter-of-factly hand over Mr. Snowden. But in this case, they obviously have no interest in cooperating with President Obama. These countries are gratuitously taunting the president and won’t even extend us common diplomatic courtesies. And even worse, it is all happening in public. Essentially, the leaders of China, Russia and Ecuador are giving the president of the United States the diplomatic equivalent of the middle finger.
Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed today that Snowden is in Russia but he will not be extradited to the United States. The Russians may give Snowden up eventually. They likely don’t want him taking up room in their prisons or even in their cities, but they’re toying with Obama just because they can. It’s humiliating, and it’s not helpful to us for other countries to see us in this weakened position.
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And then would have only promised the transfer of the key after reaching complete safety (though some may or may not honor that promise). You'd have to be insanely naive or stupid to hand over your chips while your ass is still on the line.
I don't necessarily believe those reports though (I don't disbelieve them). 
But do not disbelieve it. Understand?
That info was part of a character assassination campaign anyway (in an attempt to paint Snowden as a "traitor" friendly to the evil Chinese instead of a "whistleblower"
. Its a bit suspicious to start with.
We really don't need Snowden anymore to figure this whole deal out. He is only a news item still due to his narcissistic tendencies and the opposing tactic of attacking the messenger. The sooner he is out of the conversation is the sooner real open investigations can actually figure out the complete scope of the spying programs.
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
change. 
Oh boy, the desperation is getting real thick lately.
who needs to do things like "just surfing and knocking down your bullshit" 
Pretty obvious that you were to busy writing your fictional editorial, to listen to the Presidents speech!
I guess you must be one of the partisans the President was speaking of since you said this too: :"I hope Republicans in Congress do everything they can to stop the unilateral plan on climate change that the president announced today."
You, Mr. Rogers, only wanted a podium in which to trash this President. "He announced the damage he’s going to do to the American economy" Seriously??? And Ed Rogers believes that this President can't deal with congress... Really? He needs to just waive his wand to make the party of NO get off their collective butts to do something.
Ed Rodgers is out of his ever loving mind!
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