Pelosi on Bachmann: "Who Cares?"

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Earlier Wednesday, (Michelle) Bachmann issued a written statement condemning the court's decisions:

Marriage was created by the hand of God. No man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted. For thousands of years of recorded human history, no society has defended the legal standard of marriage as anything other than between man and woman. Only since 2000 have we seen a redefinition of this foundational unit of society in various nations.

Today, the U.S. Supreme Court decided to join the trend, despite the clear will of the people’s representatives through DOMA. What the Court has done will undermine the best interest of children and the best interests of the United States.

Her condemnation was dismissed by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

"Who cares?" Pelosi asked when questioned about the statement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/michele-bachmann-doma_n_3504640.html

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1. dethroning the Bible

I would like to suggest an aspect of separation of church and state, or separation of "biblical morality", in today's Supreme Court decisions about DOMA and Prop 8.

One of the things over the years is that the Bible is no longer considered the 'ultimate authority in matters of morality or good public policy. (Conceivably ending Bible-reading and prayers under the authority of teachers in public schools helped in dethroning the Bible.)

The victories for gay rights and equality count as a major refutation of biblical literalists, and their hangers-on who have so many fears--and hate--about sodomy. I am forever amazed about how much Christianists are sleepless--and lie--about masturbation.

Virtually all of the opposition to gay equality was generated by church groups, quoting Biblical passages. No science or evidence there. Nor much compassion nor understanding.

I think these decisions represent a larger victory for freethinkers and atheists. It is a victory for agreeing that the Bible--its promoters, apologetics, preachers and priests, does not trump a decent understanding of fairness.

A poster on FreeRepublic wrote: "This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God." "God knows I have my own sins, but this country deserves judgement." Obeying a 'god' has many complications, usually promoted by some preacher whose income depends on scaring parishioners about hell, whatever that is.

There is a very odd religious view that everyone will be 'punished by god'. This notion of allowing collective punishment of innocents was specifically rejected in the aftermath of WWII. It has always baffled me why Biblical literalists are so fond of Noah's flood, which obviously killed millions of 'innocent' fetuses, new-borns, and toddlers.

Whatever the legal and implementation issues will be, I think the Supreme Court decisions are significant for dethroning so-called "Biblical morality". This is an unseen victory for separation of church (Bible) and governments.

[cthulu2016]

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3. You can say that again