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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:35 AM

 

Death Valley 127 Degrees, Phoenix 118 Degrees, Temps In 110's, Alaska In The 90's.

Nothing unusual here. Global warming is a hoax cooked up by scientists. When will denial stop? When it is over 135?

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Reply Death Valley 127 Degrees, Phoenix 118 Degrees, Temps In 110's, Alaska In The 90's. (Original post)
TheMastersNemesis Jun 2013 OP
bike man Jun 2013 #1
malaise Jun 2013 #2
kentauros Jun 2013 #19
Kolesar Jun 2013 #3
n2doc Jun 2013 #4
stevenleser Jun 2013 #13
malaise Jun 2013 #21
B Calm Jun 2013 #5
hobbit709 Jun 2013 #7
Javaman Jun 2013 #10
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #17
Rstrstx Jun 2013 #34
Doctor_J Jun 2013 #6
subterranean Jun 2013 #8
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #15
malaise Jun 2013 #22
subterranean Jun 2013 #25
kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #29
backscatter712 Jun 2013 #23
Rstrstx Jun 2013 #24
kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #30
kentuck Jun 2013 #9
backscatter712 Jun 2013 #14
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #16
leftynyc Jun 2013 #18
kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #31
Javaman Jun 2013 #11
JCMach1 Jun 2013 #12
backscatter712 Jun 2013 #20
JCMach1 Jul 2013 #37
virgogal Jun 2013 #26
AndyA Jun 2013 #27
AFJROTCcadetEcho Jun 2013 #28
Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2013 #32
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #33
davidpdx Jun 2013 #35
Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #36

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:38 AM

1. Ah, summer. nt

 

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:00 AM

2. Just wait for peak hurricane season

The size of these storms alone should wake up people.

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:37 AM

19. And more derechoes in the Central and Eastern states.

And with that, more tornadoes.

I'm not looking forward to this hurricane season. I think I'll make a note to myself to see about making one of those emergency kits. I've never done it in the past other than freeze dozens of water bottles in the lead up to one.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:59 AM

3. post count eom

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:01 AM

4. Denial will stop when rich people start dying from climate change n/t

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Response to n2doc (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:19 AM

13. Not sure that will even do it. Repugs dont care about dead rich people, only live ones that can give

 

them money.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:48 AM

21. Not death - a contagious disease following a big storm - that would scare the shit of them

Losing their beach front properties and their fancy yachts would be way more painful to them than death.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:06 AM

5. I made the mistake one year

 

when my dad was still alive, I flew to Tucson to see him in August. I don't know why anybody would want to live in the desert. Whewww was it ever hot out there!!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:09 AM

7. Try Austin in Aug. Same temps, 10 times the humidity.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:32 AM

10. Mmmm, can't wait.

lol not really.

did you see the temp at Camp Mabry on Tuesday? 105.

ick.

It's going to be a long hot summer and not a drop of rain. As the song goes.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:37 AM

17. did not know Austin was that humid.

I remember spending a few days in Houston in the summer, it was much more humid than where I live in SW Ala.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:08 PM

34. LOL, no it doesn't get up to 127 in Austin

Feels like it sometimes though, and I have seen readings of 117 on the car thermometer after it's been parked on unshaded asphalt

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:09 AM

6. Thunderstorms in MI every day, with 90 degree temps

 

Climate change is just a figment of Al Gore's imagination!

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:11 AM

8. Those temperatures are not unprecedented in those regions.

One heat wave is not evidence of global warming any more than a cold snap is evidence against it.

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Response to subterranean (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:32 AM

15. What does this say to you?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:50 AM

22. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Those who won't hear will feel.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:18 PM

25. I wasn't denying global warming.

Nine of the 10 hottest years on record, globally, have occurred in the last 11 years. It's pretty clear that the world is getting warmer. What I meant was that single, regionally isolated weather events can't be used to prove or disprove global climate change. It's the accumulation of events and climate trends, as shown in the graph you posted, that provide the strongest evidence, not a heat wave in June.

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Response to subterranean (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:51 PM

29. This isn't a "single event" - it is part of a major trend, for anyone who has been

 

paying the slightest attention over the past few decades........

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Response to subterranean (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:20 AM

23. But it's not just one heat wave.

These heat waves are more intense, and more frequent. As dixiegrrrrl pointed out, almost all of the past ten years have had record-breaking high and average temperatures.

Also, one effect of climate change is weather-weirding or weather-whiplash, which means more extreme weather events such as heat waves, storms, even blizzards. More heat energy in the atmosphere means that more of that heat energy will be turned into kinetic energy, aka wind, thus the weather gets more violent and unpredictable.

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Response to subterranean (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 11:25 AM

24. You are right

Examples like the chart here are valid arguments for climate change, one day of 118 in Phoenix isn't. People confuse weather with climate all the time and it should be avoided, the right uses this argument every time the temperature drops a little somewhere or a flake of snow falls in, say, Arizona. This spring, for example, was cooler than normal in the eastern US due to a stubborn Greenland blocking pattern that set up but that doesn't discredit the theory of AGW

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Response to Rstrstx (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:52 PM

30. Weather + time = climate. Contrary to what the RW wants us to believe.

 

They are very closely and inextricably linked.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:54 AM

9. At what temperature would it be uninhabitable?

and unable for humans to breathe? I would think we are getting very close?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:29 AM

14. A relevant article:

http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/research/2010/100504HuberLimits.html

The article talks about "wet-bulb" temperature - the temperature read from a thermometer covered with wet cotton - when that temperature exceeds 95 degrees, people start dropping like flies.

So the answer is about 95 degrees, but also with extremely high humidity. In other words, when it's not only hot, but so humid that when you sweat, it doesn't evaporate, you can't cool down, so you keel over.

And yes, if global climate change gets really bad, there will be large areas around the globe that will start experiencing this lethal combination of temperature and humidity, which will render them uninhabitable.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:35 AM

16. Plus....over very hot daytime temps mean night time temps too hot

and people cannot cool down at night, esp. in cities which have asphalt/concrete heat sinks.
That really adds to the death rate.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:37 AM

18. Well, I was once in Jericho

 

which I was told was the oldest inhabited city in the world - it was also the hottest place I had ever been (around 120F) and I went to Arizona State.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:53 PM

31. Well I know when it gets over 115F and stays there for more than a day or two, my AC can't

 

keep up anymore, and if we had a power failure at that point my cats and I would die.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:33 AM

11. I was once in Death Valley when it was 127 degrees...

but that was in late August.

nope, no climate change here. move along citizen.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:15 AM

12. Lived in the UAE for 9 years... quit whining, Death Valley is a dry heat

try that with 50-90% humidity...

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:41 AM

20. See the article I posted above.

It was talking about wet-bulb temperatures - the equivalent temperature felt by a person soaked in liquid standing in a stiff breeze, or a thermometer wrapped in wet cotton.

There have been times in Saudi Arabia, right next door in the UAE, when the wet-bulb temperatures have topped 95 degrees - super-hot and super-humid winds blowing hot moisture in from the Persian Gulf.

Absolutely miserable, and potentially lethal.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 04:19 PM

37. I am talking 110+ with that humidity...

Insanely hot...

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:24 PM

26. And only 64 in the Boston area----and we had a very cool spring.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:39 PM

27. No, no, no, no, no--you've got it all wrong!

It's not global warming--it's Obama's weather machine in the Oval Office. It's in his desk drawer. With it, he controls the weather all around the globe!!11! I'm serios!!1! Glenn Beck knows all about it...

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:46 PM

28. Al Gore

 

AL Gore was right!

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:56 PM

32. Pahrump, Nevada: 106 today, 110 tomorrow, 111 Saturday, will peak @ 113 on Monday.

So glad I moved here.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 07:57 PM

33. We're looking at

102, 108, 109, 109, 109 and 108 for the next 6 days. And I have to work in that. Well, at least until Saturday where it will be 73 degrees. I'll be working Sunday in the 108 degree-heat. Arggghhh!!!1

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:04 AM

35. Here in Korea the weather has been more extreme on both ends

Much colder in the winter and much warmer (and drier) during the summer. Monsoon season usually start about now and we haven't had much rain. Last year you could barely tell it was Monsoon season. We had one good size storm that went straight up between China and Korea and hit close to Seoul last year, though it actually ironically went on shore in North Korea. The first year I was here in Seoul it rained so hard I thought I was going to have to buy a raft. That was only 7 years ago. Very scary....

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 01:07 AM

36. Anchorage just broke the record

for most days in June above 70 degrees.

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