Lawmaker Seeks to Regulate Men's Reproductive Health

[babylonsister]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/06/28/lawmaker_seeks_to_regulate_mens_reproductive_health.html

Lawmaker Seeks to Regulate Men's Reproductive Health


Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner (D) has proposed a bill forcing men to "see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency" before allowing them to get a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, the Dayton Daily News reports.

"Turner said if state policymakers want to legislate women's health choices... they should also be able to legislate men's reproductive health."

[Thinkingabout]

1. I love it, a great idea and let's see if this gets passed, oh, they will probably prevent all female

from voting.

[MotherPetrie]

2. K&R How about making them swear to fully support any children they father after taking Viagra too.

[cali]

3. Ohio just passed super restrictive abortion legislation

[hobbit709]

4. They need to get a prostate exam too.

[msanthrope]

5. Cough....nt

[longship]

11. "Bend over Mr. Babar," said Dr. Jellyfingers.

"Moooooon River!!!" responded Mr. Babar.

Fletch, one of the best romps from Hollywood. Even has Geena Davis in an early role.

[LongTomH]

18. My doctor had to make a really bad joke a few years ago......

"Well, at least I took off my watch!"

[NewJeffCT]

32. with a cold steel probe

which is making me shiver just thinking about it...

[meow2u3]

38. A transanal ultrasound, to be exact

[sheshe2]

6. This!

[dickthegrouch]

7. How about a note signed by the devil before buying condoms?

Only if you believe in god and the devil of course. Excommunication required in addition, if the guy is Catholic.

In case it's not clear I'm trying to suggest higher hurdles, I'm fully in support of the proposal.

[freshwest]

8. And mandate this helpful tool to protect their health:

[47of74]

44. Damn right

[bravenak]

76. That's actually skinnier than the one they used on me.

It hurt for reals.

[VA_Jill]

9. Go Nina!

Damn straight they should!

[davidn3600]

10. Actually this could be a very good thing

Not enough men get regular check-ups and/or get their heart checked. The stress test could identify a serious problem and prevent a heart attack.

This could save lives...

[Lars39]

12. I'd add, need catheterization to see

if there is any bladder obstruction.

[mwooldri]

69. Ouch! Though the bladder has nothing to do with sexual reproduction.

For a small minority of people whose bladder necks are shut off surgically, putting a catheter through the penis would not work at all. The same small minority would be happy to show you through their stoma.

[sibelian]

13. I think that's an extremely good idea.

The amount of self-medication going on in society these days is getting scarily ridiculous.

[Jackpine Radical]

14. Some pretty stiff requirements in that bill.

[Romulus Quirinus]

15. It'll be hard going for some men. nt

[progressoid]

17. We're men. No reason to go soft on us.

[madinmaryland]

21. I think most Republican men will go soft on those requirements.

[Jackpine Radical]

24. Not to worry.

I hear those Republicans are real stand-up guys.

[Arugula Latte]

67. Then they shouldn't shrink from in-depth debate about the issue.

[Auggie]

26. I see a long debate

[awoke_in_2003]

33. DUzy. nt

[Apophis]

55. Stiff requirements for soft men.

[Johnboi70]

16. If it's wrong to do it to women, then it's wrong to do it to men. n/t

[busterbrown]

23. Whaaat? Are you conflating the two?

Do you want to lay the two issues out side by side?

Kind of like when Blacks discriminate against Whites?

Please explain.

[Johnboi70]

36. Wrong is wrong, pure and simple.

You don't correct an injustice by creating a new one.

"Kind of like when Blacks discriminate against Whites?"

No, kind of like using one's position of power in government to write a law which invades the medical privacy of one group in order to avenge the invasion of the medical privacy of another group.

If privacy is a right and if it's the basis of Roe v. Wade, then you don't attack privacy in order to defend abortion rights.

[busterbrown]

40. How could you have possibly believed that the post about invading men’s privacy was..

nothing but parody? Man, what world are you living in?

[Johnboi70]

41. I read the article.

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And this wasn't the only proposal to regulate men's reproductive rights. All of these proposals requiring some procedure or another constitute an invasion of the confidential relationship between doctor and patient (i.e. an invasion of privacy).

I am well aware that none of these measures stand a chance of passing, but I still think it's a terrible approach to raising awareness - especially when it is being done in support of abortion rights and against the trans-vaginal ultrasound laws - or are you unaware of what this is actually about??

These frivolous get-back-at-men bills only hurt the cause of abortion rights.

[busterbrown]

42. Man you’re in another world.

These proposals are being used as a way to illustrate how ridiculous the current wave of Republican ant-choice laws are.. You think these proposals would be brought to the state’s legislative floors on their own merit? Of course not... They are a response... Jeez

[BlancheSplanchnik]

46. but there is nothing wrong if you're trying to save lives!

This is not at all about retaliation against fundamentalist religio-terrorists trying to shame and force women into the role gawd intended for them: firmly below and beneath men. And secondary to imaginary babies.

No, this is about saving lives! Men are endangering their sacred gawd-given health by being irresponsible with their manly parts!

[EC]

56. I think that is the point.

It's an invasion of privacy and all these so called right to lifers are forgetting that, or never knew it. Roe v Wade was decided on a woman's right to privacy and confidential relationship between her and her doctor being equal to the mans. I think she's trying to remind them of this. Or push the point home to some of the idiots who will say, "Oh no, you can't tell me what to do with my body, it's an invasion of my privacy." and not even see the correlation.

[Skittles]

78. ? it's not just about "abortion rights"

it's about getting repukes out of vaginas, PERIOD!!!!!

[daybranch]

48. I like Nina but

wasting a bunch of time with this talk. This preaching to the choir does nothing. If youi want to change things as she does, she needs to do one or probably both of two things. One turn out republicans to tell the republicans who voted for this they wil be held accountable and voted against by the republicans. and or two get behind the Stop Gerrymandering ( fair redistricting) efforts that have started in Dayton and other places in the state.
Nina's show is nice but lets put effort into a real solution and stop this crap. Gerrymandering is the cause, let fight it with both legislation to fight Gerrymandering and turn republicans especially women against those who have betrayed them. .

[Crunchy Frog]

52. If it's done to women, then it's just and fair to do it to men.

It's wrong to single out one gender for undue burdens while letting the other one get off scott free.

[sufrommich]

19. I love this. nt

[SunSeeker]

20. If your willy ain't working, it's God's plan. No medical intervention unless your life's at risk!

[archiemo]

29. AMEN!!!

[reusrename]

61. And for reproductive purposes only, none of that recreational stuff.

[OregonBlue]

25. But I want penile probes included too!! Just to be sure. No matter whether a doctor says they are

needed or not.

[Arkansas Granny]

27. What a great idea! We wouldn't want the guys to think

that we weren't concerned about their health and safety.

[blkmusclmachine]

28. Good for the goose, good for the gander.

[Half-Century Man]

30. Check for lumps

then mash Mr johnson and the boys between a couple glass plates and zap em with an Xray.

[awoke_in_2003]

34. Please excuse my medical ignorance...

but why must mammograms be so painful? Couldn't a sonogram do the same thing with less pain?

[Half-Century Man]

35. I don't know. I am not a doctor or an X-ray tech.

I was an electrician/mechanic for 6 station automated machine tool cells. I do know we could see through irregular aluminum shapes with ease. I don't know why the fine detail in a Human body is so hard to see well. For that matter, why isn't a modified CT scanner used? One which produced a 14" Pattern should be good, at least the detail would be there.

My wife tells me they are painful, I'll take her word for it.

[awoke_in_2003]

39. "My wife tells me they are painful"...

my wife says the same. You would think there would have to be a better way.

[mwooldri]

72. There is a better way.

3d mammography gets rid of this squeezing and pressing. Thermography is another way - without x-rays too.

[awoke_in_2003]

74. Thanks...

I will tell my wife to ask the doctor about it.

[mountain grammy]

31. Great.. filibuster this!

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Oh I wish I wish Nina would consider running for Congress!

She is gem for OH!

[timdog44]

43. And all these exams

should happen at stand alone clinics that have signs posted that this is what the clinic does. Then the world can see what these guys are doing there.

[spanone]

45. republicans = sexual obsession

[Sancho]

47. hmmm...can we get insurance to pay for a "sex therapist"?

[Arcanetrance]

49. The odd thing as a guy I don't see those restrictions being bad at all

Viagra isn't good for the heart if you have heart problems.

[Crunchy Frog]

50. They should also be able to prove they're married.

They shouldn't be able to use the medical profession to enable their sluttiness.

[bonniebgood]

53. I'm with you on this one Crunchy. Why would ANY

christian man over 40 be allowed to have Viagra? They should prove they are married and healthy. and prove they are able to support a child. via means tested. alone with all the above test. If you cant get it up. its what gawd intended. Afterall sex is only for procreation, so they claim.

[avaistheone1]

51. Genuis!

And about freakin time.

[EC]

54. They should also make them view films

about all the babies they'll doom by getting a vasectomy and some really grotesque testing for penile implants. Anything I'm missing?

[Arugula Latte]

68. The films should cover the mass genocide of pre-fetuses that occurs whenever a naughty man faps

[DLevine]

57. K&R. nt

[WillyT]

58. HUGE K & R !!!

[Ilsa]

59. Good. Place burdens on them. nt

[VPStoltz]

62. And how about drug tests for those "policymakers"

who are making these decision and getting paid with YOUR tax dollars - not to mention the pension afterward.
I call it something in a same class as "welfare."

[reflection]

63. This is an outstanding idea.

and I'm a man.

If it takes something this ludicrous to get these teabaggers attention, then so be it.

[pnwmom]

64. She forgot to include that they should get their vision certified first

since these drugs can cause you to go blind.

And they should only be taken while in the emergency room of a licensed hospital, in case they do have an emergency.

[Lithos]

65. Sounds reasonable

Speaking as a guy with a few decades behind him. Seems only fair.

L-

[tsuki]

66. It has always amazed me that if a man can't get it up, that is

not Gawd telling him not to procreate, it is a medical problem.

[wryter2000]

70. I love Nina Turner

I'm so glad we get to see her on MSNBC.

[mwooldri]

71. What if the doctor is prescribing the drug for a different medical condition?

These ED drugs (and many other non-ED drugs) do have other uses too.

Does this mean that I have to go through all of that for an antidepressant I'm taking despite its side effect being helpful to relieve ED?

However... State Sen. Turner is on the right track... other than providing safeguards to ensure that medical treatment is done in the proper environment there shouldn't be anyone standing in the way of anyones' health care and their doctor of choice. Not the insurance company, not the government.

[chknltl]

73. Perhaps drunk saloon girls could be made purchasable on our EBT cards!

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[Tx4obama]

75. K&R :) n/t

[DreamGypsy]

77. Nothing that Tina Turner does can make me concerned about the possibility of erectile dysfunction...

... in fact, quite the opposite.

Oh, sorry. This is about Nina, not Tina.


Well, if Nina is serious about tipping the scales of justice to equalize the legislative intrusion into male/female reproductive health, then a daily prostate exam requirement might 'do the trick'.

Thanks for the post, Babylon Sister. Shake it. DG.