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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:33 PM Jun 2013

Ecuador president: Snowden can't leave Moscow

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"National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden is "under the care of the Russian authorities" and can't leave Moscow's international airport without his U.S. passport, Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa told The Associated Press Sunday.

Correa said he had no idea Snowden's intended destination was Ecuador when he fled Hong Kong for Russia last week. He said the Ecuadorean consul in London committed "a serious error" without consulting any officials in Ecuador's capital when the consul issued a letter of safe passage for Snowden. He said the consul would be punished, although he didn't specify how.

Correa said "the case is not in Ecuador's hands" and said Snowden must assume responsibility if he broke U.S. laws. Correa said the broader legitimacy of Snowden's action must be taken into consideration and Ecuador would still consider an asylum request but only if Snowden is able to make it to Ecuador or an Ecuadorean Embassy to apply.

"This is the decision of Russian authorities. He doesn't have a passport. I don't know the Russian laws, I don't know if he can leave the airport, but I understand that he can't," Correa said. "At this moment he's under the care of the Russian authorities. If he arrives at an Ecuadorean Embassy we'll analyze his request for asylum."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/30/3478238/ecuador-president-snowden-cant.html#storylink=cpy


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Ecuador president: Snowden can't leave Moscow (Original Post) Scurrilous Jun 2013 OP
This is such a tease! flamingdem Jun 2013 #1
And the US forces Snowden to cooperate with the Russians. Brilliant. dkf Jun 2013 #2
LOL! Apparently you aren't paying attention. No one is forcing Snowden to KittyWampus Jun 2013 #3
Leave him stranded without a passport. dkf Jun 2013 #4
Sure he could. In handcuffs...nt SidDithers Jun 2013 #5
You know, those great lovers of personal freedom/liberty, China and Russia FSogol Jun 2013 #7
I'm aware of his releasing information to the Guardian and other media sources. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #8
The Hong Kong papers said they saw his evidence. randome Jun 2013 #10
Link? morningfog Jun 2013 #11
He 'divulged information'. randome Jun 2013 #15
It doesn't say documents. morningfog Jun 2013 #16
Do you have any evidence he has not shown the information? I am beginning to think the Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #18
I can't prove a negative. morningfog Jun 2013 #19
The US does not seem very interested in him except for the charges of espionage and did start the Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #20
It's silly to think China and Russia don't already have what they need. pnwmom Jun 2013 #14
DU rec... SidDithers Jun 2013 #6
The 1% fascists are in control. Whistleblowers no longer have possibility of escape Zorra Jun 2013 #9
Snowden may already be serving his time, he cant return to the USA without being arrested and i am Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #21
The consul will be punished by being forced to room with Assange for a year! randome Jun 2013 #12
What a revolting development this is! Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #13
Kicked for not spinning the AP headline. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #17

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. This is such a tease!
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:38 PM
Jun 2013

I guess Correa is either moonwalking away from earlier offers and deflecting blame by making it Putin's fault or he's telling Putin to let him get to the Ecuadoran Embassy.

It must be the former because Correa has heard things from Biden, maybe some nice things, things like trade agreements and other flowers have been offered.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. And the US forces Snowden to cooperate with the Russians. Brilliant.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jun 2013

That's a great way to secure all his info... NOT.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. LOL! Apparently you aren't paying attention. No one is forcing Snowden to
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jun 2013

"cooperate" with China & Russia. That was his INTENT.

His self appointed mission is to release sensitive, classified info he stole from the NSA to: China, Russia and other countries.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. I'm aware of his releasing information to the Guardian and other media sources.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jun 2013

Did I miss something? Can you point me to something where he says it is his "self-appointed mission" to give information to the Russians or Chinese? Or any indication that he has?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. The Hong Kong papers said they saw his evidence.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013

But maybe it's best not to believe everything we read.

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randome

(34,845 posts)
15. He 'divulged information'.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1268209/snowden-sought-booz-allen-job-gather-evidence-nsa-surveillance

He showed them documents. You can make of that what you want.

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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
16. It doesn't say documents.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jun 2013

"In his interview with the Post, Snowden divulged information that he claimed showed hacking by the NSA into computers in Hong Kong and the mainland."

He told them that he had information, but it doesn't say he showed them anything. Is there any other evidence that he showed documents to the Chinese government or Chinese press?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Do you have any evidence he has not shown the information? I am beginning to think the
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jun 2013

Information may be of no value to China or Russia and probably both countries may be participating in the same information. It may be just as well to leave him where ever he can land, no cost to the US to transport him back to the US, no costly trial and a self imposed sentence by himself to never grace the shores of our great nation, good riddance to a criminal.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. The US does not seem very interested in him except for the charges of espionage and did start the
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jun 2013

Extradition process so it may be all they do unless he returns to the US on his own. Though he was not supposed to reveal information he gathered while at the NSA I don't think the whole information for s going to be valuable to other nations.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
14. It's silly to think China and Russia don't already have what they need.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jun 2013

As if Snowden has been lugging his 4 computers around for days without interference.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. The 1% fascists are in control. Whistleblowers no longer have possibility of escape
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:50 PM
Jun 2013

if they expose the corrupt, democracy crushing factors of control and corruption employed by the 1% fascists.

Their global control of resources, labor, and the factors and means of production is an ever tightening noose around the neck of democracy.

Any leader, any nation, who resists global fascism them can and will be punished.

The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. he great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dict ates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . .

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. Snowden may already be serving his time, he cant return to the USA without being arrested and i am
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

Not sure he hasn't placed himself in "custody" in Russia.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. The consul will be punished by being forced to room with Assange for a year!
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jun 2013

NOT a Harold and Kumar situation, I'd bet!

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