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KG

(28,751 posts)
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:01 PM Jun 2013

Gun-Nut With Arsenal Including Explosives And Tank, Shoots Self, Police Evacuate Neighborhood

http://aattp.org/gun-nut-with-arsenal-including-explosives-and-tank-shoots-self-police-evacuate-neighborhood/

Jonathan Orser of Mahopac, NY was found dead of a shotgun wound to the chest, surrounded by rifles and shotguns. Police said they found “over 100 firearms, rifles and shotguns, 15,000 to 20,000 rounds of ammunition, buckets of black (gun) powder, hand grenades” and other military ordnance.
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Gun-Nut With Arsenal Including Explosives And Tank, Shoots Self, Police Evacuate Neighborhood (Original Post) KG Jun 2013 OP
Shot himself while cleaning his shotgun... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #1
it's kinda poetic onethatcares Jun 2013 #2
I'm thinking this was probably a suicide, MineralMan Jun 2013 #3
Anyone who buys an arsenal like that has committed suicide by giving up on the living already. freshwest Jun 2013 #7
No, I don't think it's an error. MineralMan Jun 2013 #9
Just your average responsible gun owner. There is one just like this in your neighborhood. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #4
The tank should have intervened to save him from that lowly shotgun. How embarrassing. freshwest Jun 2013 #5
About these people called "Survivalists." johnp3907 Jun 2013 #6
DUzy! NoPasaran Jun 2013 #8
Sounds like a good candidate for a Darwin Award! Conway_Stewart Jun 2013 #10
What is wrong with people? shenmue Jun 2013 #11
I'm that he wouldn't want to have gone out any other way nt MrScorpio Jun 2013 #12
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. Shot himself while cleaning his shotgun...
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jun 2013

If he's that dumb to clean a loaded weapon, I'm surprised it took this long...

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
2. it's kinda poetic
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jun 2013

that he was a "firearms expert" and was killed cleaning his own weapon.

must have forgotten the first rule of firearm safety.

MineralMan

(146,306 posts)
3. I'm thinking this was probably a suicide,
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jun 2013

rather than an accident. Just guessing, but I think that's likely.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Anyone who buys an arsenal like that has committed suicide by giving up on the living already.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jun 2013

He was committed to causing the death of as many people as he could.

I doubt he committed suicide with a shotgun, it doesn't handle as well a hangun, the usual supect.

The story says shotgun. Do you think that is an error?

MineralMan

(146,306 posts)
9. No, I don't think it's an error.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:40 PM
Jun 2013

A shotgun makes a good suicide weapon, though. It's one that is not infrequently used by people who are very serious about making sure they die.

However, I don't know this individual at all, and there's not all that much information at the link, so I'm just speculating.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. The tank should have intervened to save him from that lowly shotgun. How embarrassing.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jun 2013


If anyone thinks I'm being mean, just how mean would it have been when he finally got to live out his fantasy?

He only intended to gun down his neighbors, blow them up with explosives or run them down with his tank. Maybe all three.

Perfect example of the 'I Am An Island' mentality. It was all about his survival, not about trying to make the world a better place for all of us. He had decided he had enemies, for sure.

A search of his information sources most likely would show Beck, Rush, and Infowars. Would the saying, 'He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword,' apply if upgraded to say 'the gun'?

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
11. What is wrong with people?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jun 2013

How many sick people are out there?

Wish he had been Baker Act-ed before all this...

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