What would be the main differences between President Hillary Clinton's policies if she wins in 2016,

[Nye Bevan]

and President Obama's policies today?

I ask because I see a lot of negativity about a President Hillary from quite a few DUers. I was wondering if these DUers are equally negative about President Obama today (but less vocal about it).

[dkf]

1. She needs to disavow TIA or I can't support her.

[still_one]

2. A transient ischemic attack?

[dkf]

5. Total information awareness. Ugh.

[still_one]

6. Just saying, TIAs are a common medical conditions

[dkf]

24. If she's had any that is trouble.

[jberryhill]

28. No, A Mexican Aunt

If she has a "Tia", then she, like Barack Obama, might not be a natural born citizen.

[markiv]

13. Thanks In Advance?

i've been guilty of that, myself

[ZombieHorde]

3. In my opinion, she would be very similar to President Obama.

She might be more aggressive toward the Republicans than her, but I think her overall policies would be very similar. People who think President Obama is doing a very good job should definitely consider her.

[TDale313]

4. Honestly, probably very little difference.

And yes, many(including myself) do criticize Obama and the admin for being too centrist, particularly on foreign policy and economic issues.

I will say this: I do have some hope that unlike Bill Clinton and President Obama, Hillary Clinton isn't under any illusions that making nice with Republicans is an effective strategy.

[yourout]

7. The signature.

Otherwise....same corporate bullshit.

[im1013]

25. +1

[Demo_Chris]

8. Likely more of the same. MUCH more. More war, more spying, more FTAs, more corporatism...

Basically whatever her employers tell her to do. And no, it really wont matter if it's Hillary or Christy. Both will campaign off a script intended to convince the voters that there is some difference, but both will be financed by the same corporations and both will do exactly what they were told.

[markiv]

12. ^ someone who gets it

different bus drivers, working for the same company, on the same line, taking us to the same place

[Demo_Chris]

23. Pretty much. I prefer to think of them as....

Clowns in a circus. I picture them running around whacking each other with giant comedic hammers, pies are flying, it looks like they are really mad at each other, but whether they are the good clown we are supposed to chear for, or the mean clown we boo, all the clown's paychecks are all signed by the same company. They are employees putting on a show.

Something most people don't consider... if Obama and Romney are both financed by Exxon and Goldman and Monsanto and UnitedHealth and Dow and Lockheed and GE, why would anyone believe that they EVER intended to do anything different? Do people believe these companies give this money away out of the kindness of their non-existent hearts?

[markiv]

17. Perot in 1992 was my wake up call

no, he wasnt perfect, his companies were cult of personality, and WTF with his senile VP candidate

but before these weaknesses were known or exposed, there was a total hostility to his campaign by the media, like he was an actor on the stage, who wasnt on the script

both clinton and bush were about to serve a huge pitcher of free trade kool aid, and perot ran his campaign based on exposing it for what it was, and he has been (sadly) proven 100 percent correct, as i absolutely knew he would be. things have turned out exactly like he said it would, jobs in never ending decline and up to our eyeballs in debt

[Demo_Chris]

26. I was just a kid, but even I understood what would happen when free trade passed...

Unfortunately, the boomers -- the only voting block that mattered at that time -- were rounding the corner and heading towards retirement so they no longer cared about jobs. They had theirs and screw everyone else.

[Art_from_Ark]

35. In 1992, the oldest Boomer was 46. The youngest was 28.

They were hardly a group that was "heading towards retirement". And why would they be the "only voting block that mattered", when there were still plenty of Depression/World War II generation voters, as well as a large group of 18-27-year-old voters?

[markiv]

40. and baby boomers were heavy Perot voters

because they (we) knew they would be around long enough to have to live with the crap he was warning us about

[NYC_SKP]

9. Warren 2016 (nt)

We need someone who will fight for the ordinary American, unions, jobs, regular people.

[William769]

14. ???

(nt) right out the window.

[NYC_SKP]

16. Damn auto-fill!

I've posted that about Warren so many times it just fills in the subject line by itself!



Auto fill was the best tool for DU moderators, we had a whole series of shorthand answers:

"PA RS" meant "Personal Attack, Remove and Save", and WSC indicated "Will Support Consensus".

[William769]

19. I'm a nit picker this evening.

Someone pissed in my Wheaties earlier.

[idwiyo]

10. Is there anything wrong with been negative about policies?

[markiv]

11. she would be similar to Obama, W, her husband, GHW Bush, Reagan

in the continuous parade of decline, for the average American

[OhioChick]

15. True

"She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership..."

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-10/hillary-clintons-business-legacy-at-the-state-department#p1

[antigop]

37. "She’s also taken a leading part in drafting the Trans-Pacific Partnership..."

Well, that says it all, doesn't it?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Just more of the same tired old DLC, 3rd Way, "not as bad", policies with less charisma.

[madrchsod]

20. there will be no main differences

there will be a continuing progression of corporatization and repression of america under hillary. she will have some minor programs for the great unwashed but overall the rich will get a lot richer and the middle class will all but disappear.

the only thing that could actually change this steady progression is taking back the house and keeping the senate. if this would happen we might be given more treats to make us feel better.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. I don't want Hillary, I don't want Joe. I voted for Hillary in the 2008 Primary... but won't again.

I don't want old. I want new. I'd vote for ANYONE but Joe or Hillary in the next primary.

[BainsBane]

22. I don't suppose we could wait until the actual presidential election?

Democrats focus too much on the presidency, when much of the power is won at the state level and in midterm elections.

[treestar]

39. This ^^^^^^

2014 is right here yet they obsess over the presidency, full three years away.

[edgineered]

27. The choice of which Bush appointee to fill a slot

will be more difficult due to attrition, death or already selected! sarcasm

[leftstreet]

31. LOL

!!

[dsc]

29. I think many of her policies would be substantially similar

I do think she would be far less obsessed with compromise than Obama was. I also think she would be less into some of the excesses of education reform. On the minus side I think she might be more warlike in foreign policy than he has been.

[TheKentuckian]

30. Yup, a lil more rhetorical heat against the TeaPubliKlans, maybe ease up on the teachers some, more

saber rattling and conflicts. If possible more corporate friendly might appoint less Klans but may find a way to dig up just as bad or worse and more incompetent people (see Penn, McAullife).

Differences but not different and so near 100% chance of Reagan's 10th term that if the probability was a dollar you'd have to multiply the change representing the chance it won't be Ronnie again by five trillion to buy a cup of coffee.

Folks that don't like what they get will get to be sexist women hater, I reckon. So, there is that.

[leftstreet]

32. Opposition to DLC policies will make us misogynists, not racists

Aww God

8 more years of this crap

[LWolf]

33. I was equally negative about both of them

during the '08 primaries. They were tied for the bottom of the barrel in my personal ranking list. Which meant nothing, of course, because they were the only two left standing a good 5 months before my primary arrived.

And guess what? I was right. I'm not interested in HRC for 2016. I have been as vocal as DU allows in my disapproval of the Obama administration.

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. Hillary Clinton worked at the Rose Law Firm which represented Monsanto

so I'll suppose she'd do just like Obama and install a Monsanto executive to sensitive positions in the FDA.

[davidn3600]

36. No difference. Hillary is very pro-establishment. She won't change a thing.

[treestar]

38. I doubt there would be much difference

It would depend on Congress.

I expect as a woman she would get a parallel kind of resistance.