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The key parts of Serino's interview and testimony: "That's not fear"
Some highlights. They have moved from the interrogation room to Serino's desk. They play the non-emergency tape and ask Zim to square it with what he just told them -- that he was in fear the whole time.
the tape plays -- 'these assholes, they always get away'
Serino: That statement. These assholes…what’s behind that?
Zimmerman: People that victimize the neighborhood.
Singleton: Didn’t you just tell us in there that a week earlier they made an arrest?
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: So they don’t always get away.
Zimmerman: No.
Serino: Good point.
Serino: That statement. These assholes…what’s behind that?
Zimmerman: People that victimize the neighborhood.
Singleton: Didn’t you just tell us in there that a week earlier they made an arrest?
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: So they don’t always get away.
Zimmerman: No.
Serino: Good point.
These investigators pick out EVERY inconsistency. Serino gives props to Singleton there.
the tape plays - TM runs
Serino: OK. Full sprint? full-on flight?…jogging, trotting ?…describe the run.
Zimmerman: I don’t remember. I just, cause I was on the phone. It happened so quickly.
Serino: Well, ah, I understand that, George, but I guess that it’s um…if it was a bicycle theft I could say OK, but it’s kinda important. I mean, was he running as to evade you, get away from you, ah, maybe got tired of getting wet in the rain. What kinda run was it? I mean, it sounds like he’s running as to get away from you.
Zimmerman: I don’t know why he was running.
Serino: But what kinda run was it? Can’t say?
Zimmerman: I don’t know.
Serino: OK. Full sprint? full-on flight?…jogging, trotting ?…describe the run.
Zimmerman: I don’t remember. I just, cause I was on the phone. It happened so quickly.
Serino: Well, ah, I understand that, George, but I guess that it’s um…if it was a bicycle theft I could say OK, but it’s kinda important. I mean, was he running as to evade you, get away from you, ah, maybe got tired of getting wet in the rain. What kinda run was it? I mean, it sounds like he’s running as to get away from you.
Zimmerman: I don’t know why he was running.
Serino: But what kinda run was it? Can’t say?
Zimmerman: I don’t know.
Seems like Zim doesn't want to say that TM is running away from him, perhaps because that would make Zim the aggressor and TM the one who was in fear.
the tape plays - Zim exits the SUV to chase TM
Serino: OK, so you basically jumped out of the car to see where he was going?
Zimmerman: Yes, sir.
Serino: OK. That’s not fear. You know what I mean?
Zimmerman: Yes, sir.
Serino: That’s one of the problems I have with the whole thing, or I’m gonna have. I mean, I don’t have any problems at all, it’s just that… it’s gonna be a problem.
Serino: OK, so you basically jumped out of the car to see where he was going?
Zimmerman: Yes, sir.
Serino: OK. That’s not fear. You know what I mean?
Zimmerman: Yes, sir.
Serino: That’s one of the problems I have with the whole thing, or I’m gonna have. I mean, I don’t have any problems at all, it’s just that… it’s gonna be a problem.
A while later Singleton gets into the same issue:
Singleton: OK, but the other day…again, this is, these are the questions that we’re going to have to able to explain to people…
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: The other day you told me you got out of the car because dispatch was asking your location and you wanted to orient yourself. You did not tell me that you said, “Oh, shit, he’s running” and then got out of the car and went in that same direction at the same time. Do you see what the problem is?
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: And I asked you did, would you, did you, you know, look for him and you told me no.
Zimmerman: I don’t remember, ma’am. I’m sorry.
Singleton: You told me the only, the reason you got out of your car was to get an address.
Zimmerman: Yes, right.
Singleton: But you decided to get the address…fresh in the second after you say, “Oh, shit, he’s running.” And then it sounds like you’re running too.
Serino: Cause it was fast walking maybe?
Zimmerman: No, it was just windy.
Serino: It was. OK.
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: The other day you told me you got out of the car because dispatch was asking your location and you wanted to orient yourself. You did not tell me that you said, “Oh, shit, he’s running” and then got out of the car and went in that same direction at the same time. Do you see what the problem is?
Zimmerman: Yes, ma’am.
Singleton: And I asked you did, would you, did you, you know, look for him and you told me no.
Zimmerman: I don’t remember, ma’am. I’m sorry.
Singleton: You told me the only, the reason you got out of your car was to get an address.
Zimmerman: Yes, right.
Singleton: But you decided to get the address…fresh in the second after you say, “Oh, shit, he’s running.” And then it sounds like you’re running too.
Serino: Cause it was fast walking maybe?
Zimmerman: No, it was just windy.
Serino: It was. OK.
Zim doesn't want to say he was running and chasing TM because he knows that it blows his story and completely changes the dynamics of the situation. It shows he was not in fear. The investigators are telling him as much.
The whole transcript is here:
https://www.txantimedia.com/?p=1079
