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Is this true? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2013 OP
This is a reprehensible fact think Jul 2013 #1
Have we no shame? kentuck Jul 2013 #2
Apparently it is accurate el_bryanto Jul 2013 #3
Keep in mind one thign about Dixie DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author fleur-de-lisa Jul 2013 #15
I LOVE me some NO every few years.... pangaia Jul 2013 #17
I was just there 2 weeks ago as well - my 5th visit to SUCH a great city..... piratefish08 Jul 2013 #31
Yes it's true. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #4
Quite true. It's the land of the free n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #5
How many are innocent sorefeet Jul 2013 #6
How many are serving years imprisonment for simple drug possession? kentuck Jul 2013 #7
Lots!! Waltons_Mtn Jul 2013 #20
Well, this just proves it's working, right? malthaussen Jul 2013 #8
The world must wonder how much longer zeeland Jul 2013 #9
The American people will sorefeet Jul 2013 #18
For profit is one of the biggest social services/human spending problems we have. When there can be jwirr Jul 2013 #10
A for-profit prison will not locate in an area unless it's guaranteed a 90% occupancy rate. byeya Jul 2013 #16
Exactly. And I do not feel the least bit of sympathy for the taxpayers in those states who fall for jwirr Jul 2013 #19
There very rural area where I lived was inundated with corps-prop that the jobs byeya Jul 2013 #25
That I can understand. But sooner or later we all have to begin to understand that these owners do jwirr Jul 2013 #28
No, of course not. The owners will corrupt judges(as in PA), stir up the populace and make them byeya Jul 2013 #30
"USA! USA! USA! WE'RE #1! WE'RE #1! WE'RE #1!" baldguy Jul 2013 #12
"Parchman Farm" by Bukka White--Louisiana has always been known for it's prisons panader0 Jul 2013 #13
yes, and it's racism for a large part NoMoreWarNow Jul 2013 #14
The system is predatory, justice doesn't matter. The Wizard Jul 2013 #21
They use the pot laws to lock up black voters! Dustlawyer Jul 2013 #22
The return of slavery is the ultimate goal here. reusrename Jul 2013 #23
The "War on Drugs" is largely the cause of this,. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #24
Yes, and the majority are in for small quantities of pot. EdwardSmith74 Jul 2013 #26
The more crime you create, the tougher on crime you can be! johnnyreb Jul 2013 #27
The Obama administration is aggressively growing private prisons. woo me with science Jul 2013 #29
These prisons are in least educated areas felix_numinous Jul 2013 #32

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. Keep in mind one thign about Dixie
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jul 2013

There is the Urban South (like New Orleans) which is mostly Left wing, and the rural south, which is mostly evil. The problem is that the State Governments are dominated by the rural part, because the Dixie idea of populism sometimes becomes "get all those evil city folk!"

Response to el_bryanto (Reply #3)

piratefish08

(3,133 posts)
31. I was just there 2 weeks ago as well - my 5th visit to SUCH a great city.....
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jul 2013

I like to think my dollars have aided toward the recovery not the incarceration numbers.....

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
6. How many are innocent
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:20 AM
Jul 2013

How many have been framed by crooked cops and judges. I bet all the judges, cops, lawyers and all involved claim to be God fearing Christians. But have no problem participating in this crime against humanity.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
7. How many are serving years imprisonment for simple drug possession?
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:24 AM
Jul 2013

I think a big part of the problem may be the time may not fit the crime. In some cases, maybe a simple fine or probation might be more appropriate. Violent criminals should not be on the street.

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
20. Lots!!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

I used to be a probation and parole officer in Louisiana. Louisiana had (has?) some serious multipliers for multiple offenders. I was working with one guy who had an extra 8 years added to his sentence because he had three felony marijuana possession convictions. He could have been sent away for life, but two of the three convictions did not include "with intent to distribute". So the sentencing judge "cut him a break".

Almost half of my probation cases were marijuana convictions. Most of my parolees had at least one marijuana conviction. It's amazing.

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
8. Well, this just proves it's working, right?
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:27 AM
Jul 2013

Obviously, we are much more efficient at bringing criminals to justice than our friends in Iran and China. That's capitalism for you!

-- Mal

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
18. The American people will
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jul 2013

put up with it forever. Their ignorance puts it at a low priority. The corporates just buy another politician to perpetuate the profits and to keep things like non-violent marijuana users a criminal. The true criminals and enemies of the American people are our elected officials.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. For profit is one of the biggest social services/human spending problems we have. When there can be
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:32 AM
Jul 2013

a profit then they will find more prisoners to house regardless of the guilt or innocence of the prisoner. This is one of the dangers of privatization both to the people and to the costs.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
16. A for-profit prison will not locate in an area unless it's guaranteed a 90% occupancy rate.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:54 AM
Jul 2013

That's a prescription for corruption and corruption is what we're seeing.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. Exactly. And I do not feel the least bit of sympathy for the taxpayers in those states who fall for
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jul 2013

this bull.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
25. There very rural area where I lived was inundated with corps-prop that the jobs
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jul 2013

the prisons would provide would help them escape from poverty. They residents didn't know those lucky enough to get the underpaid jobs would be guarding their nonviolent friends and neighbors.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. That I can understand. But sooner or later we all have to begin to understand that these owners do
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jul 2013

not have our best interest at heart.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
30. No, of course not. The owners will corrupt judges(as in PA), stir up the populace and make them
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:29 PM
Jul 2013

fearful and vindictive over minor offenses; and degrade both the inmates and the guards. It is, to me, one of the worst things happening in the country right now.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
21. The system is predatory, justice doesn't matter.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jul 2013

For profit prisons belong in History's dust bin along with for profit healthcare and a privatized military. Unfettered capitalism running rampant will devour the democratic State. They said it couldn't happen here.

Dustlawyer

(10,496 posts)
22. They use the pot laws to lock up black voters!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jul 2013

Whites and Blacks use drugs at virtually the same rate but Black individuals are arrested more often and given longer sentences.

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
24. The "War on Drugs" is largely the cause of this,.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jul 2013

Watch the new documentary; "How to Make Money Selling Drugs" to learn a lot about how the corporate prison system works.
I watched this last night, and it is really not so much a "how to" story, as it is an indictment of the "Drug War",. a war of propaganda and profit$ for the 1%,. like almost everything now a days.

The incarceration rate in the USA is absurd,. higher than Russia, higher than China,. higher than ANYWHERE else in the world!! By far!!!

"For-profit" prisons and a fake-ass "war on drugs" are the reason.

 

EdwardSmith74

(282 posts)
26. Yes, and the majority are in for small quantities of pot.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:30 AM
Jul 2013

I really wish this country would delist pot from Schedule I drugs. It has proven medical uses and Schedule I is specifically for drugs with no medical use. Our country is really screwed up.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
29. The Obama administration is aggressively growing private prisons.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jul 2013

and the use of prison slave labor by corporations is skyrocketing.

More reminders that this is not a Red versus Blue game anymore. This is the One Percent against the rest of us, and we had better get serious about it, before it's too late.


We are in a war for our lives. The war is between the 1% elite and the 99%.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023137828



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022568681
Obama's 2013 budget: One area of marked growth, the prison industrial complex
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/1002392306

Obama selects the owner of a private prison consulting firm as the new Director of the United States Marshals Service (USMS)
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/12/mars-d03.html

Private prison corporations move up on list on federal contractors, receiving BILLIONS
http://www.nationofchange.org/president-obama-s-incarcernation-1335274655

"Since President Obama’s first day in office the Corrections Corporation of America and The GEO Group have been awarded $1.7 and 1.8 billion dollars in federal contracts, respectively. And beginning in October 2011 the Corrections Corporation of America has taken its place as the government’s top contractor whereas the GEO Group comfortably maintains the third-place position. Finally, according to USAspending, over one-quarter of private prison contracts have been established under “non-compete” agreements."

Prison Labor Booms As Unemployment Remains High; Companies Reap Benefits
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/prison-labor_n_2272036.html


Financial growth of the private prison industry:

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
32. These prisons are in least educated areas
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:20 PM
Jul 2013

I don't like labeling rural uneducated people, from a long line of undereducated people as evil (there are good people everywhere) but the most evil can be accomplished through ignorance and misinformation perpetrated by the 1%.

The fact that so much $$$$$ is spent on prisons and not education is a recipe for disaster. The privatization 'experiment' FAILED badly.

But the powers that be can sit back and blame the unwashed masses for self medicating, or having emotional meltdowns (it's entertaining to watch on teevee!) When there are no decent jobs, healthcare, housing, or dignity to be had-- it's a self feeding loop.

It seems the 1% need to periodically reminded of the inhumanity of their greed, and it's high time for another reminder. I just hope we can find some real allies in high places.

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