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By Hayes Brown
Edward Snowden, the former contractor who leaked the details of several National Security Agency spying programs, is currently a man on the run, attempting to find asylum from U.S. prosecution in countries around the world.
In a statement released through the pro-transparency organization Wikileaks, Snowden argued the United States had condemned him to a life of the extralegal penalty of exile as a punishment for his crimes. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon, the statement reads. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.
While the veracity of the statements authorship is under dispute, the message behind it is worth examining given its claims of a violation of Snowdens human rights. It is most definitely true that after his flight to Hong Kong, the United States revoked Snowdens passport in an attempt to render him unable to travel. Counter to Snowdens claims, however, the process for passport revocation is relatively simple and fully documented within the law.
According to federal law, the Department of State can revoke a passport when the person would not be entitled to a new passport under the laws surrounding their issuance. As Snowden is, in fact, the subject of an outstanding Federal warrant of arrest for a felony as provided under Title 22 of the U.S. Code, the U.S. pulling his ability to travel is completely legal...passport revocation does not qualify Snowden as stateless as claimed in his statement, as he still remains an American citizen and retains all the rights under U.S. law that status grants him. That makes him quite different from the the peoples around the world who are truly denied similar rights in the states they inhabit, even if their family has been present for generations. According to the United Nations, there are currently an estimated 12 million people around the world who actually qualify as stateless.
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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/07/02/2244791/snowden-statelessness/
Josh Marshall: "Snowdens pretty screwed."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023144319
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Given evidence that the Obama administration is engaged in a massive domestic surveillance program, will you be posting here in opposition to such a program?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I have a question"
...I know: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023134060#post79
Trying to hijack this thread too, huh?
Ah, desperation!
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"No just wondering why you cannot answer this simple question."
...there is a certain desperate and disingenuous quality to your question, and you are in fact not interested in an answer.
You are simply trying to hijack the thread with a circular argument because you're pissed off about the content of the OP.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023134060#post187
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
FSogol
(45,504 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)sheshe2
(83,833 posts)Cha
(297,423 posts)coming straight from Greenwald's bag of bullshit.
"Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person.
"Unilateraly"? "Convicted"? As Bob Cesca so nicely pointed out.. who else was the US suppose to ask to revoke his damn passport? And, no he hasn't been "convicted" of anything because he IS Hiding in Russia instead of getting his ass home to the USA where his Dad is asking him to come back to.
http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/02/rise-and-shine-543/#comments
thanks ProSense.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Cha
(297,423 posts)bag of bullshit tricks.