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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:01 PM Jul 2013

Has anyone else noticed the whitewashing of Bush is well underway now?

I have seen several stories lately about Bush, and nearly every one contains a blurb about how Bush's poll numbers are on the upswing, and how Americans generally have a favorable view of ex-Presidents. It seems to be a meme that is being pushed hard.

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Has anyone else noticed the whitewashing of Bush is well underway now? (Original Post) silvershadow Jul 2013 OP
Oh, it's just part of making Jeb Bush acceptable for 2016........... wandy Jul 2013 #1
and look who's helping elehhhhna Jul 2013 #3
A most capable overseer is watchin' the work. Octafish Jul 2013 #47
Did he steal those glasses from his evil witch of a mother? Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #61
He is a torturer, has denied people of free speech rights, had soldiers killed for a lie, Lint Head Jul 2013 #2
they even had President Wiggum on CNN denouncing Snowden MisterP Jul 2013 #4
Just wait until he get pardoned. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #5
Since 1999, I think. n/t Orsino Jul 2013 #6
This is necessary. bvar22 Jul 2013 #7
Marvelous post. Absolutely spot on. woo me with science Jul 2013 #9
+1 leftstreet Jul 2013 #12
Yes, exactly. sibelian Jul 2013 #13
What bvar22 said. progressoid Jul 2013 #14
Well said, Sir. Well said. Herlong Jul 2013 #16
+1. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jul 2013 #19
Bush* is definitely on the fast-track for beautification and sainthood. Raster Jul 2013 #24
Nailed it. Again. n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #33
And we have a winner. Exactly! Safetykitten Jul 2013 #46
worthy of its own thread Skittles Jul 2013 #48
Yes it is. nt laundry_queen Jul 2013 #67
^^^This^^^ Apophis Jul 2013 #55
when you defend continuing his policies, you defend him markiv Jul 2013 #8
K&R Excellent observation, woo me with science Jul 2013 #10
yes, and everything relating to it is making me ill niyad Jul 2013 #11
Agreed - the doctrine "change of course" jimlup Jul 2013 #15
yep, better Tanzania focus on U.S. political nonsense than their own desperate needs bigtree Jul 2013 #27
Obama is helping him out by showing up with him. L0oniX Jul 2013 #17
+1 HiPointDem Jul 2013 #57
Yes . . . aided and abetted by . . . . . ? Stinky The Clown Jul 2013 #18
that's just nonsense bigtree Jul 2013 #20
Not entirely nonsense Fumesucker Jul 2013 #25
I'm not sure what real-world effect those polls are going to have bigtree Jul 2013 #34
You really expect DU to refrain from talking politics about Dubya? Fumesucker Jul 2013 #36
I'd expect folks who profess to be so concerned about people to have spent at least as much time bigtree Jul 2013 #39
Really? nt Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #41
no, I really believe George Bush is destined for greatness bigtree Jul 2013 #44
LOL Skittles Jul 2013 #50
clown. bigtree Jul 2013 #56
no, you're not that good either Skittles Jul 2013 #58
confirmed, bigtree Jul 2013 #59
sorry; you do not measure up to them Skittles Jul 2013 #60
putz bigtree Jul 2013 #62
yup - that's a good category for a swooner Skittles Jul 2013 #63
yup, confirmed bigtree Jul 2013 #64
lol Skittles Jul 2013 #65
my view, at this moment bigtree Jul 2013 #66
Clown! bvar22 Jul 2013 #69
you are right maindawg Jul 2013 #29
The last I heard he is still the worst president ever. Blanks Jul 2013 #32
Well George did come out and support Obama recently Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #21
You can tell the global 1% are huddled together nineteen50 Jul 2013 #30
IMO one of the most important side effects of these revelations woo me with science Jul 2013 #49
Totally agree nineteen50 Jul 2013 #51
Both parties are from the same country club. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #22
Thinking that Yavapai Jul 2013 #35
Abso "f"ing lutly and the way they are nineteen50 Jul 2013 #38
Well said may I use that? nineteen50 Jul 2013 #40
america needs to awaken inteligence sigmasix Jul 2013 #42
The road traveled the last 35 years has no curves it is nineteen50 Jul 2013 #43
Spot on Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #68
In fairness, Gore1FL Jul 2013 #23
The MSM and both parties seem to agree that we embrace everything Bush created so we might as well carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #26
don't forget JEFF9K Jul 2013 #28
How can you forget him nineteen50 Jul 2013 #31
the gnews are culpable for creating him. OPF COURSE they need to spackle their monster, pansypoo53219 Jul 2013 #37
This guy nineteen50 Jul 2013 #45
"Before the meeting, President Obama lavished praise on president bush." PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #52
I can't wait to see the pictures of the Obamas at Kennebunkport! kenny blankenship Jul 2013 #53
Obama plans to switch parties and run as VP with Jeb. kickysnana Jul 2013 #54

wandy

(3,539 posts)
1. Oh, it's just part of making Jeb Bush acceptable for 2016...........
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jul 2013

The republicans are changing their image you know.
Just look at the progress they have made in the last three weeks.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. He is a torturer, has denied people of free speech rights, had soldiers killed for a lie,
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jul 2013

exposed a CIA agent, thousands died as a result of Katrina because of his administrations neglect and incinerated 3,000 human beings as a result of his negligence on 9/11. What a wonderful human being he is. I have one question. Why is Barack Obama hanging out with him?
If I win one of those lunches with Obama that I keep getting in my email that would be the question I would ask. And no answer would satisfy me. If I hung out with criminals I would be guilty by association and if I had done what GWB did I would be in prison or worse.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. This is necessary.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jul 2013

You can't condemn Bush-the-Lesser for doing the same things that our current administration is engaged in today.
It causes to much cognitive dissonance,
and frankly, makes too many look like rank hypocrites.

For instance, the meme yesterday was that Greenwald was a traitorous idiot for going along with Bush on the Invasion of Iraq.
When it was pointed out that the Democratic Party leadership did the very same thing,
and said the very same words as Greenwald,
it caused terminal dizziness from the contortions necessary to condemn Greenwald without condemning the Democratic party.
It was kinda fun to watch.

So the Meme Makers are at an impasse where they have to gloss over and rehab the worst outrages of the Bush Administration,
and pretend that nobody objected to these policies back then,
in order to justify the same policies today.


Yes, Alice.
We HAVE fallen down a Rabbit Hole!


---bvar22
Cursed with a good memory.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
13. Yes, exactly.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:30 PM
Jul 2013

The meme generator is stuck with a script that relies on human beings having vastly shorter attention spans than they actually have.

In the long run, probably even the medium run, they're actually kind of screwed.
 

Herlong

(649 posts)
16. Well said, Sir. Well said.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jul 2013

"So the Meme Makers are at an impasse where they have to gloss over and rehab the worst outrages of the Bush Administration,
and pretend that nobody objected to these policies back then,
in order to justify the same policies today."

Raster

(20,998 posts)
24. Bush* is definitely on the fast-track for beautification and sainthood.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013

After all, what better way to cleanse those nasty war crimes away.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
15. Agreed - the doctrine "change of course"
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jul 2013

Sort of down the memory hole what G. W. Bush really was. I'm surprised he had the guts to travel to Tanzania actually. I guess they are a US lap dog. I would think that in several countries he might attempt to visit he could face immediate arrest for war crimes and more.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
27. yep, better Tanzania focus on U.S. political nonsense than their own desperate needs
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:40 PM
Jul 2013

. . . should have just told Bush in 2005 to take his anti-malaria initiative and shove it. Definitely would have been worth the sacrifice of lives lost to uphold DU's notion of principle. Who needs AIDS initiatives there, anyway?


Tanzania Ignores Arrest Call for George W. Bush

2011: Tanzania welcomed visiting former U.S. President George W. Bush and his wife Laura Thursday, ignoring a call by Amnesty International to arrest him for U.S. torture of suspected terrorists during his term.

Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete received the couple in the capital, Dar es Salaam, and thanked Bush for supporting the African country's campaign to curb AIDS and HIV infection.

"With people of goodwill like you, Mr. President, I believe, together we shall fight and win the war against HIV/AIDS and achieve our target of an HIV-free generation in half a decade," said Kikwete, according to AFP.

Kikwete was referring to the U.S. Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief that Bush initiated and the Obama administration continues to support.


read: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/259880/20111202/tanzania-ignores-arrest-bush-george-w-jakaya.htm

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
20. that's just nonsense
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jul 2013

I remember the stories that Nixon was getting made-over . . . same bullshit.

This is just another obvious slam of Obama for appearing with the man. Such an amazing inanity to even go there. Who are these people who are thinking Bush is rehabilitated? He still looks like the same dumbshit to me, and I'm sure he looks that way to most everyone else. This is just pure bullshit that generates inside of an echo chamber like DU>

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
25. Not entirely nonsense
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/06/12/bushs-ratings-beat-obamas/

Americans’ views of former president George W. Bush have improved, with 49% now viewing him favorably and 46% unfavorably. That is the first time since 2005 that opinions of him have been more positive than negative.

George W. Bush’s favorable rating is more positive now among all party groups than it was in March 2009, when it dipped to 35% overall. Currently, 84% of Republicans, 46% of independents, and 24% of Democrats have a favorable view of Bush, each up more than 10 points since 2009.

However, the more recent improvement in his ratings, a five-point overall uptick since November 2010, has been more apparent among Democrats, whose rating has increased by 10 points since then.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
34. I'm not sure what real-world effect those polls are going to have
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jul 2013

I think the polls and the speculation is the playstation of internet pundits and essayists, more than it's something that has some real-world effect (like the AIDS, malaria, and women's empowerment initiatives that he's put his name behind).

I think that it's rather pathetic to put, what amounts to nothing more than, political chatter, ahead of the on-the-ground benefits and need that encompasses the Bushes efforts in Africa. It's rather typical of this forum to put politics ahead of a focus on actual need and grouse, in the same breath, about the heartlessness and self-interest of someone else.

bigtree

(86,004 posts)
39. I'd expect folks who profess to be so concerned about people to have spent at least as much time
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jul 2013

. . . discussing the real-world, on-the-ground problems, challenges, and efforts in Africa (in conjunction with the president's very successful trip), at least as much as we're focusing on meaningless speculation about the nincompoop Bush's political profile.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
69. Clown!
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:59 AM
Jul 2013


Hey. This is much easier than thinking,
and DU is a better place without all those smarty pants clogging it up.
Thanks.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
32. The last I heard he is still the worst president ever.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jul 2013

Sure, go out and ask a drinking establishment full of red-necks and about half of them will think he was ok.

Historians still know that he sucked.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
30. You can tell the global 1% are huddled together
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:43 PM
Jul 2013

shaking in their boots and planning how to keep their spying programs together to get what they think is intent and plans necessary to protect them from being eaten by the proles.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
49. IMO one of the most important side effects of these revelations
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jul 2013

is the exposure, finally, of the collusion between the two corporate parties. Corporate Democrats are now siding brazenly with the likes of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

They've been walking hand in hand all along.....but we only get to see them clinging together on *this* issue because the outrage across the country is finally bipartisan, and they can no longer hide behind their carefully propagandized Red and Blue Teams to pretend they are on opposite sides.

This is a critical lesson for Democrats about the lie we are constantly fed by the Third Way: that we must circle the partisan wagons and defend predatory corporate policies for fear of enabling the Other Party.

It turns out that the mindless partisanship and wagon circling are the means by which Americans are kept divided and unable to unite against the predatory corporate agenda.

Finally we have bipartisan outrage about something, and, for the first time, we have a real opportunity to force change.


"Courage is contagious."


nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
22. Both parties are from the same country club.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jul 2013

Ya just don't screw over fellow 1%ers. Both are owned by the same interests and dance to the same club tune. Americans need to waken.

sigmasix

(794 posts)
42. america needs to awaken inteligence
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jul 2013

The right wing meme that democrats and republicans are the same is the product of extreme antiAmerican agents at work advancing the goals of the 1% at the expense of us all. Lending your voice to the agents of American destruction is neither bold or patriotic- just a simple example of the huge amount of confirmation bias required to maintain the fantasy that there is no difference between dems and reps.
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I realize that right wing echo-bots are adamant that president Obama is evil- this is what makes them untrustworthy and fuels their ODS. DU members with intelligence recognize the calling card of reactionary republican extremism at work in our "news" media and discussion groups like DU. The weasels are in the Hen House demanding we find the gaurd dog guilty of eating the fattest chicken. Only the dumbest, least successful farmer would listen to the weasels. We know that the "news" media and DU's membership list includes weasels of the right wing echo machine- why would any honorable person of good will support the actions of the weasels in our country's hen house?

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
43. The road traveled the last 35 years has no curves it is
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jul 2013

a continuation regardless of the party in control. Go back to your Koch brothers and get another meme.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
26. The MSM and both parties seem to agree that we embrace everything Bush created so we might as well
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013

embace him too

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
45. This guy
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jul 2013

I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008

" My constituents the haves and have mores"

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
53. I can't wait to see the pictures of the Obamas at Kennebunkport!
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jul 2013

PLaying horseshoes on the lawn, and sipping mint juleps with Bar and her brood.

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