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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone else noticed the whitewashing of Bush is well underway now?
I have seen several stories lately about Bush, and nearly every one contains a blurb about how Bush's poll numbers are on the upswing, and how Americans generally have a favorable view of ex-Presidents. It seems to be a meme that is being pushed hard.
wandy
(3,539 posts)The republicans are changing their image you know.
Just look at the progress they have made in the last three weeks.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)GW cares so much about African. So touching.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Waitin' in the wings, as it were.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)exposed a CIA agent, thousands died as a result of Katrina because of his administrations neglect and incinerated 3,000 human beings as a result of his negligence on 9/11. What a wonderful human being he is. I have one question. Why is Barack Obama hanging out with him?
If I win one of those lunches with Obama that I keep getting in my email that would be the question I would ask. And no answer would satisfy me. If I hung out with criminals I would be guilty by association and if I had done what GWB did I would be in prison or worse.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)You can't condemn Bush-the-Lesser for doing the same things that our current administration is engaged in today.
It causes to much cognitive dissonance,
and frankly, makes too many look like rank hypocrites.
For instance, the meme yesterday was that Greenwald was a traitorous idiot for going along with Bush on the Invasion of Iraq.
When it was pointed out that the Democratic Party leadership did the very same thing,
and said the very same words as Greenwald,
it caused terminal dizziness from the contortions necessary to condemn Greenwald without condemning the Democratic party.
It was kinda fun to watch.
So the Meme Makers are at an impasse where they have to gloss over and rehab the worst outrages of the Bush Administration,
and pretend that nobody objected to these policies back then,
in order to justify the same policies today.
Yes, Alice.
We HAVE fallen down a Rabbit Hole!
---bvar22
Cursed with a good memory.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Thank you.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)The meme generator is stuck with a script that relies on human beings having vastly shorter attention spans than they actually have.
In the long run, probably even the medium run, they're actually kind of screwed.
progressoid
(49,992 posts)Saves me the trouble of typing it.
Herlong
(649 posts)"So the Meme Makers are at an impasse where they have to gloss over and rehab the worst outrages of the Bush Administration,
and pretend that nobody objected to these policies back then,
in order to justify the same policies today."
NRaleighLiberal
(60,016 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)After all, what better way to cleanse those nasty war crimes away.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)Skittles
(153,170 posts)yes INDEED
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)bvar22's post
markiv
(1,489 posts)by implication
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)and bvar22 nails why.
niyad
(113,490 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)Sort of down the memory hole what G. W. Bush really was. I'm surprised he had the guts to travel to Tanzania actually. I guess they are a US lap dog. I would think that in several countries he might attempt to visit he could face immediate arrest for war crimes and more.
bigtree
(86,004 posts). . . should have just told Bush in 2005 to take his anti-malaria initiative and shove it. Definitely would have been worth the sacrifice of lives lost to uphold DU's notion of principle. Who needs AIDS initiatives there, anyway?
Tanzania Ignores Arrest Call for George W. Bush
2011: Tanzania welcomed visiting former U.S. President George W. Bush and his wife Laura Thursday, ignoring a call by Amnesty International to arrest him for U.S. torture of suspected terrorists during his term.
Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete received the couple in the capital, Dar es Salaam, and thanked Bush for supporting the African country's campaign to curb AIDS and HIV infection.
"With people of goodwill like you, Mr. President, I believe, together we shall fight and win the war against HIV/AIDS and achieve our target of an HIV-free generation in half a decade," said Kikwete, according to AFP.
Kikwete was referring to the U.S. Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief that Bush initiated and the Obama administration continues to support.
read: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/259880/20111202/tanzania-ignores-arrest-bush-george-w-jakaya.htm
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,816 posts)Guess who!
bigtree
(86,004 posts)I remember the stories that Nixon was getting made-over . . . same bullshit.
This is just another obvious slam of Obama for appearing with the man. Such an amazing inanity to even go there. Who are these people who are thinking Bush is rehabilitated? He still looks like the same dumbshit to me, and I'm sure he looks that way to most everyone else. This is just pure bullshit that generates inside of an echo chamber like DU>
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)George W. Bushs favorable rating is more positive now among all party groups than it was in March 2009, when it dipped to 35% overall. Currently, 84% of Republicans, 46% of independents, and 24% of Democrats have a favorable view of Bush, each up more than 10 points since 2009.
However, the more recent improvement in his ratings, a five-point overall uptick since November 2010, has been more apparent among Democrats, whose rating has increased by 10 points since then.
bigtree
(86,004 posts)I think the polls and the speculation is the playstation of internet pundits and essayists, more than it's something that has some real-world effect (like the AIDS, malaria, and women's empowerment initiatives that he's put his name behind).
I think that it's rather pathetic to put, what amounts to nothing more than, political chatter, ahead of the on-the-ground benefits and need that encompasses the Bushes efforts in Africa. It's rather typical of this forum to put politics ahead of a focus on actual need and grouse, in the same breath, about the heartlessness and self-interest of someone else.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's a touch unrealistic.
bigtree
(86,004 posts). . . discussing the real-world, on-the-ground problems, challenges, and efforts in Africa (in conjunction with the president's very successful trip), at least as much as we're focusing on meaningless speculation about the nincompoop Bush's political profile.
Romulus Quirinus
(524 posts)bigtree
(86,004 posts)you'll never compete with pro with stuff like this
Skittles
(153,170 posts)bigtree
(86,004 posts)clown.
Skittles
(153,170 posts)Skittles
(153,170 posts)bigtree
(86,004 posts)putz.
sucks to be you ENJOY!!!
bigtree
(86,004 posts)from my window . . .
. . . yeah, to be me.
Hey. This is much easier than thinking,
and DU is a better place without all those smarty pants clogging it up.
Thanks.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)W is still a dimwit, and the President is just doing his job.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Sure, go out and ask a drinking establishment full of red-necks and about half of them will think he was ok.
Historians still know that he sucked.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)shaking in their boots and planning how to keep their spying programs together to get what they think is intent and plans necessary to protect them from being eaten by the proles.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)is the exposure, finally, of the collusion between the two corporate parties. Corporate Democrats are now siding brazenly with the likes of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
They've been walking hand in hand all along.....but we only get to see them clinging together on *this* issue because the outrage across the country is finally bipartisan, and they can no longer hide behind their carefully propagandized Red and Blue Teams to pretend they are on opposite sides.
This is a critical lesson for Democrats about the lie we are constantly fed by the Third Way: that we must circle the partisan wagons and defend predatory corporate policies for fear of enabling the Other Party.
It turns out that the mindless partisanship and wagon circling are the means by which Americans are kept divided and unable to unite against the predatory corporate agenda.
Finally we have bipartisan outrage about something, and, for the first time, we have a real opportunity to force change.
"Courage is contagious."
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)Ya just don't screw over fellow 1%ers. Both are owned by the same interests and dance to the same club tune. Americans need to waken.
Yavapai
(825 posts)the right wing and the left wing are attached to the same corporate bird.
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)talking and acting in perfect step proves it.
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)sigmasix
(794 posts)The right wing meme that democrats and republicans are the same is the product of extreme antiAmerican agents at work advancing the goals of the 1% at the expense of us all. Lending your voice to the agents of American destruction is neither bold or patriotic- just a simple example of the huge amount of confirmation bias required to maintain the fantasy that there is no difference between dems and reps.
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I realize that right wing echo-bots are adamant that president Obama is evil- this is what makes them untrustworthy and fuels their ODS. DU members with intelligence recognize the calling card of reactionary republican extremism at work in our "news" media and discussion groups like DU. The weasels are in the Hen House demanding we find the gaurd dog guilty of eating the fattest chicken. Only the dumbest, least successful farmer would listen to the weasels. We know that the "news" media and DU's membership list includes weasels of the right wing echo machine- why would any honorable person of good will support the actions of the weasels in our country's hen house?
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)a continuation regardless of the party in control. Go back to your Koch brothers and get another meme.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Gore1FL
(21,134 posts)he was pretty white to begin with.
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)embace him too
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)We should never forget the characters and events of the Bush Administration:
nineteen50
(1,187 posts)we are reliving his policies.
pansypoo53219
(20,986 posts)nineteen50
(1,187 posts)Ive abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008
" My constituents the haves and have mores"
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)See the following DU thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023152147
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)PLaying horseshoes on the lawn, and sipping mint juleps with Bar and her brood.