If Iowa bans abortion in every case

[RainDog]

should we set up an underground to help people leave the state? I mean, for those who don't want to live in a theocracy, it seems like the least we could do.

Outright abortion ban introduced to Iowa House

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/outright-abortion-ban-introduced-to-iowa-house/

House File 2298, was introduced by state Rep. Kim Pearson (R). It would outlaw all abortions, even cases of rape or incest, or to save the life of a mother.

...Republicans in state legislatures across the country have pushed for tighter restrictions on abortions, such as requiring ultrasounds before a woman can terminate her pregnancy or mandating a 24-hour waiting period.

Thanks to their electoral victories in 2010, conservatives lawmakers successfully enacted 92 measures aimed at restricting abortion in 2011, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

Republicans hold a 60 to 40 majority in the Iowa House.

This would apply to any other states whose legislatures decide to vote for forced childbirth because of religious beliefs (which is the only reason any of these legislative moves have happened in the first place.)

[flexnor]

1. they'll have a clinic next to the fireworks stand on the missiouri border nt

[Inspired]

14. You got it! I can see it now. nt

[RainDog]

2. Charles Pierce wrote about this in muriel_volestrangler's link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101614295

I hate to keep harping on this, but what you're seeing in the state legislatures is the activity of the Republican farm team. The people voting for laws springing from the mushy brains of people like Bob Marshall and Lori Klein are the young Republicans who, a few cycles from now, will be running for Congress, probably from safe Republican districts that they've helped draw up, and aided immeasurably by voter-suppression laws that they've helped pass. Most of them will be the products of the vast conservative candidate manufacturing base — the kids at CPAC, the College Republicans, the various Christianist organization. They will not equivocate. They will not moderate. And they are the future of the party. Anyone who thinks the Republican party eventually again will have to "move to the middle" (this translates from the Punditese to "regain its sanity&quot isn't paying attention. In 2006, the Republicans were handed a defeat every bit as epic as any one ever handed to the Democrats. They did not pause to give it a second thought. Their resolve hardened. They ran what few "moderates" were left right out of the party. And, in 2010, they got a wave election that not only gained them the House of Representativse, but also the legislative majorities in the states that are now producing these goofy-ass laws, and a lot more seriously dangerous ones as well. And, even then, they blew a chance to retake the Senate by running sideshow freaks like Sharron Angle and Christine O'Donnell. They didn't care.

[southernyankeebelle]

5. Won't the surpreme court overturn that? Abortions are legal. This is scary stuff going on.

[RainDog]

6. Yes. It really is scary

EVERY TIME Republicans win any election they run rough shod over people's rights to keep religion out of our lives. EVERY TIME they push their agenda, no matter how much the American population doesn't like it. Bush, in the middle of a so-called "the world is forever changed" moment of terrorism, found time to push to do away with the social safety net - which the majority of Americans support.

Democrats - there is no reason to "reach out" to these lunatics. None. You do us all a disservice not to destroy them, politically.

Republicans aren't the political "opposition." A few are - a few aren't insane. But, most of them? Most of them are my enemies. They are the enemies of every American who does not want to live in a theocracy whose true god is mammon.

[southernyankeebelle]

13. I wish the white man blue collar type would stop and realize that the republican party doesn't give

a dang about them. Finally the firemen, policemen, and teachers and state employees who are or were republicans are seeing them for what they really are. It is hard to change the non-union mindset. I never was a member of a union but I at least understood the good they have done for all of us and support them. Some of the rednecks just don't see it. Their happen the have their RC cola and moon pie and pickup truck to go muddbogging.

[RainDog]

15. It appears that most of this anti-woman shit started with religious women

http://www.truth-out.org/its-sex-stupid/1328651002

Women who believed that sex without childbirth was destroying America...

The U.S. government had long been in the business of policing sex between consenting adults. So it was logical for those who wanted to reverse history to wage their crusade through politics.

First these activists - surprisingly, mostly women - went after the Equal Rights Amendment and they killed it. Then they organized to stop the government from funding child care. And they succeeded. Then they ran a referendum to take civil rights away from gays. And they won again.

These campaigns all happened in the 1970s, but it wasn't just a passing backlash. There is a direct line between this sexual counterrevolution and today's dysfunctional politics.

After these victories, these sexual fundamentalists methodically took over the Republican Party. They were key to Reagan's election. Their movement grew in the 90s - they called themselves the pro-family movement or the Christian right. They were the voters who gave Newt Gingrich and the GOP control of Congress in 1994, the behind-the-throne power during Newt's radical tenure as House Speaker. They demanded Clinton's impeachment over a private sexual affair. They were George W. Bush's base, the ones who stopped John McCain from choosing Joe Lieberman as his running mate, and the people who raised Sarah Palin onto the national stage.

Tho, no doubt, men are often the beards for these theocratic women.

[southernyankeebelle]

17. Yes I believe what your saying. But I tell you when 98% of women use some type of birth control

they will not let the republicans or the religious right tell them what to do with birth control. I think they will have a very big backlash on this. No religion should tell a married couple how many children they should have. None.

[RainDog]

18. Oh, I know. Women don't want these religious ninnies up in their panties

And I think they're positioning themselves to lose big time at the national level.

state level - depends on how districts have been gerrymandered, I suppose.

honestly, I really and truly wish these people would cease to exist. If wishes were... I am so sick of their shit I cannot tell you.

The deal has been that the religious right votes with the oligarchs - that way they can tell us who to fuck while they let the oligarchs fuck us all, economically.

[RainDog]

19. iow, I view women on the religious right as pimps - corporate whores

who make their money trying to harm other women.

[southernyankeebelle]

21. Totally agree with you. I'm sick of it also. I wrote my congressman and told him I

am going to early voting tommorrow and I will not vote for him. I told him I wanted the republicans to stay out of the bedroom and leave religion at the church. I told him I agree with Obama and I was a catholic.

[RainDog]

22. the reality is this is a small group of extremists

and, once again, they are acting against the wishes of the people in this nation - they don't deserve to hold public office.

[southernyankeebelle]

23. I think this republican was a teabagger. I am not sure but I heard he liked to slap

his wife around. I don't know if it was true. He is a doctor by trade.

[spanone]

3. can they do that? it's legal.

[RainDog]

8. you tell me

It could be another one of those "states as incubators" for changes in the law moments.

[Pirate Smile]

4. Dems control the State Senate. This isn't going any where.

[RainDog]

10. So this is more carrot to enable more attacks on those who work for a living?

what's the rationale here?

or is it silly to ask for a rationale from people who think women who are raped should not be allowed to terminate a pregnancy in that case?

[libinnyandia]

12. This should be an interesting year in Iowa. They'll really going to hammer Gronstal.

[RainDog]

20. looks like he's hammered them

he's stated a truth - the religious right is made up of people who are out of step with reality.

in regard to gay marriage

[Terra Alta]

7. why would any self-respecting woman

introduce a bill that severely restricts women's rights?

Kim Pearson must really hate herself.

[RainDog]

16. These women hate other women - they hate us, not themselves

Any woman who acts against women in this way is my enemy and the enemy of every other female (and male) in this nation who thinks we should not have to kowtow to some idiotic religion.

[Ilsa]

9. Geez, if the mother is dead, it doesn't help the fetus much,

now does it? Imagine dying just because you got pregnant. These people HATE women. And they don't understand that it isn't just about a pregnancy, it is also about a woman not wanting to bring another child into the world to be cared for.

[TheMastersNemesis]

11. They Fix Elections Don't They

They will never give up. They are like a bunch of cockroaches. They are still busily trying to fix the election and stop anyone who voted for Obama in 2008 from voting. They have said they will take over and be the only party. They are like Jason and believe they will triumph in the end.

The reason they are so bold is that they believe they will be able to brainwash your children to turn you in. Sanitorumpsycho is their hero. They believe that people will not openly appose them no matter how screwy they are. They are the modern brownshirts.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Well don't send them to Kansas

LOL