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Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:53 PM Feb 2012

Sen. Rand Paul APPEARS to not understand

the issue of shared risk and shared cost of medical insurance. He was using an argument, "Why should a woman with four kids and her tubes tied have to pay for contraceptive coverage?"

I would ask him, "Why does a 25 year old have to pay towards coverage for prostate screening?" the answer, of course, is that all age groups carry a risk of one kind of medical expense or another, but certainly not equally. Having everyone pay for insurance coverage gets coverage for everyone without anyone having to bear all of the costs.

It APPEARS he's not understanding. The truth is, HE'S USING STRAW MAN ARGUMENTS to take down the Affordable Care Act.

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Sen. Rand Paul APPEARS to not understand (Original Post) Ilsa Feb 2012 OP
i think he chooses not to understand. spanone Feb 2012 #1
And why should someone like me, who used birth control Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #2
EXACTLY! MarianJack Feb 2012 #3
Wouldn't that woman rather pay for contraception than unwanted babies? FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #4
Then she should Politicalboi Feb 2012 #6
why should I pay for the police? I'll protect myself... provis99 Feb 2012 #5
Why should I pay for Mz Pip Feb 2012 #11
Why should women pay converage for boner pills? Or penile pumps? Or vasectomies! Lil Missy Feb 2012 #7
Or for his Viagra EC Feb 2012 #8
That is 100% correct. He is reenforcing and playing off broad misunderstanding TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #9
Who paid for the births of four kids and a tubal ligation? DCKit Feb 2012 #10
Phony arguments like that make me so mad! Carla in Sequim Feb 2012 #12

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
2. And why should someone like me, who used birth control
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:00 PM
Feb 2012

all of my fertile years, have to pay for the costs of having babies. Seems to me that those who chose to have children cost the "system" a lot more money than I did.

These little arguments over little items are just meant to keep us divided. And the perpetrators of these arguments know it.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
5. why should I pay for the police? I'll protect myself...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:09 PM
Feb 2012

why should I pay for schools? I've already graduated...
why should I be forced to have car insurance? I drive safely...
why should I pay for unemployment insurance? I'm not unemployed...

His crap is just the standard, Ayn Rand selfish libertarian crap, this time directed at medical insurance.

Mz Pip

(27,448 posts)
11. Why should I pay for
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:59 AM
Feb 2012

blood transfusions? I'm a Jehovah's Witness.

or mental health care? I'm a Scientologist.

or vaccines? I think they're bad for you.

The list could go on and on.

I'm paying for wars I don't agree with; for foreign aid for countries who don't deserve it, for TSA screening that is a waste of time.

Maybe our tax forms should include a check off sheet and people would only send their tax dollars to things they agreed with.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
9. That is 100% correct. He is reenforcing and playing off broad misunderstanding
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
Feb 2012

It sells the receptive audience and the gullible on complete nonsense. He is a Senator who was a doctor afterall, authority figure stamped and approval of what many already misunderstand.

Then we eventually all get what they think happens now and of course most of us are screwed, with the added bonus of if we scrape up care, if they fuck us up we are tort reformed into hell and the level of care slides for the fortunate that have it.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
10. Who paid for the births of four kids and a tubal ligation?
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 01:53 AM
Feb 2012

Who's paying for the medical coverage of the woman and her four kids?

Hell, why should a woman with the sense to stop at four kids help pay for the medical coverage of the Quiverfull freaks - his conservative, family values base?

Carla in Sequim

(228 posts)
12. Phony arguments like that make me so mad!
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:38 AM
Feb 2012

My husband (of 31 years) and I did not have children. We have never complained that a portion of payroll taxes or property taxes fund public education. We all do our share, like the generations before us. That is how it works. Man, these nuts get me so crazy.

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