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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:34 PM Feb 2012

David Englin (D-VA) on Ultrasound Measure: "Unnecessary vaginal penetration without her consent."

Last edited Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:13 PM - Edit history (1)

On Rachel Maddow's show. State Delegate David Englin did an excellent job of holding up this atrocity in its simplest terms. The consent aspect was what upset him the most, that this "procedure" would become law and a woman would not have to give consemt.

Sickening.

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David Englin (D-VA) on Ultrasound Measure: "Unnecessary vaginal penetration without her consent." (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Feb 2012 OP
Hope the GOP overreach here in Virginia destroys the Republican party. FSogol Feb 2012 #1
If their Gov. signs that, it will be the end of his political career. MidwestTransplant Feb 2012 #2
Call it what it is, RAPE! It's RAPE. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #3
Texas has this awful medieval law. One of Perry's priorities. northoftheborder Feb 2012 #4
As a rape victim, i have to say when i had this procedure because my Pap had probs, it was horrific peacebird Feb 2012 #5
Does Governor Bob McDonnell(R-Regent University) support the act of rape? Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #6
Just as I said: "This is 'consent' under duress to be assaulted" jsmirman Feb 2012 #7
Where I come from that's called "rape". kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #8
I'm beginning to think that repubs EC Feb 2012 #9
Absolutely agree peace frog Feb 2012 #10
I had one of those to check for fibroids. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #11
me too...it was awful noiretextatique Feb 2012 #12
Same here! I have fibroid tumors that my doctors were evaluating the best way to remove & they had Pachamama Feb 2012 #13
Ultrasound louiebaton Apr 2012 #14

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
1. Hope the GOP overreach here in Virginia destroys the Republican party.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:37 PM
Feb 2012

The Maddow show was unbelievably surreal tonight.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
5. As a rape victim, i have to say when i had this procedure because my Pap had probs, it was horrific
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:48 PM
Feb 2012

It was so invasive and so awful.... And on top of that i felt so bad for the poor woman doing the exam....

An at least my insurancw PAID for it, unlike this bill that wants women to pay MORE for their treatments

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
7. Just as I said: "This is 'consent' under duress to be assaulted"
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:00 PM
Feb 2012

...which is no consent at all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=281611

Good for him for putting it plainly.

As you can see, the "consent" aspect is what was mindboggling to me. It's outrageous almost to the point of it being hard to believe they are serious.

(I should add that I couldn't understand why people weren't reacting to what I was saying about consent. This is so incredibly wrong.)

EC

(12,287 posts)
9. I'm beginning to think that repubs
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:07 AM
Feb 2012

get off on this kind of stuff. It's called torture...make life miserable for anyone they disagree with or that they think are heathens.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
11. I had one of those to check for fibroids.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:01 AM
Feb 2012

It absolutely felt like rape, physically and psychologically.

I had to have a good cry afterwards. I was traumatized and there was not a damned thing I could do about it, since it was a valid medical procedure and I consented.

I felt physically weaked by the trauma after I got up and got dressed and was walking out the door. I had to lean on my husband's arm.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. me too...it was awful
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:57 AM
Feb 2012

but i am glad it did it because i had fibroids and got a complete hysterectomy. it was my choice. but for the state to impose this on women is nothing less than rape. sick bastards.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
13. Same here! I have fibroid tumors that my doctors were evaluating the best way to remove & they had
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:43 AM
Feb 2012

...to use this the transvaginal ultrasound to get the specific views needed for determining the surgerical procedure. It was horrible and uncomfortable and I felt so violated even though I understood it was with my consent and a medically necessary procedure. But I never had this kind of ultrasound done in any of my pregnancies and never would have allowed it. I didnt even want an internal fetus monitor when I went into labor! How DARE these politicians dictate what a medical doctor needs to do to a woman in a violating way that isnt medically necessary and only because she is trying to exercise her constitutional right to make reproductive decisions involving HER body!

These fucking politicians arent even going for the traditionally used ultrasound on the abdominal surface....no, they want a large projectile object shoved up into the vagina of women, penetrating them for as long as 20 minutes or more!

Imagine....a woman is raped and gets pregnant....maybe she is a teen...maybe it was by her own father....possibly she was a virgin and violently raped. And she is now pregnant as a result and wants an abortion. The answer & what these fucking politicians want to do? RAPE her all over again!

I swear.....i am seething venom and the seeing red about this. This will be the end for the fucking GOP and right wing conservatives who are assaulting women's health and rights. This is the Handmaids Tale by Margaret Atwood coming to life.....we are becoming Gilead if we dont stop this now.

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